The Joomla! Forum ™

I have released my latest version of JoomSEF 1.5.1 which is patched to remove the meta generator tag and hidden adverts.

Search for "Kanga Internet" on Google, navigate to Support->Joomla Articles.

Enjoy

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

Why dont you realease this on extensions.joomla.org???

_________________
"Exploited yesterday... Hacked tomorrow"
Blog http://brian.teeman.net/
Joomla Hidden Secrets http://hiddenjoomlasecrets.com/

Couple of reasons and either is perfectly valid. 

I am not the owner of JoomSEF, Artio Software is. 

JoomSEF is Open Source and released on the GNU/GPL License but Artio actually sell a version which has the meta generator code and the adverts from sponsors removed.

The version I have patched from is the freely available one but it does, from what I can tell, exactly what the paid version does.  Save yourself the 30 Euro's and get mine instead.

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

If it is released under the GPL then you are perfectly entitled to modify it and release the modifications assuming that you maintain the same licence terms.

I am certain that the JED team will have no problem with listing this extension and imho your work is an important addition to the Joomla community.

I will definitely be promoting it in this weeks Joomla Weekly News

_________________
"Exploited yesterday... Hacked tomorrow"
Blog http://brian.teeman.net/
Joomla Hidden Secrets http://hiddenjoomlasecrets.com/

indeed it is released under the GNU GPL License and indeed I do maintain all tags and acknowledgements from the original developers maintaining the GNU GPL license.

I appreciate your positive feedback and I do feel SEF components and in particular JoomSEF are standouts for Joomla and its ability to improve it's SEO.  I am glad you think it is important, but I don't think I can take much credit for JoomSEF beyond a frugal point of view, a PHP coding ability and a few modifications to Artio's good work.

By all means promote away .. much appreciated.  I am all for improving Joomla, SEO and keeping open source alive.

On the other thread I have one person who has this patch live, so it is confirmed by a third party as working.

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

What I think is important is not actualy the SEF component but the fact that you have taken the time and trouble to take out the encrypted spam from the original code. In fact having it there in the first place probably makes the whole thing non-gpl in the first place

_________________
"Exploited yesterday... Hacked tomorrow"
Blog http://brian.teeman.net/
Joomla Hidden Secrets http://hiddenjoomlasecrets.com/

In that case I would appreciate any further promotion you can provide for this and any of the other patches I provide.  I believe they are all valuable and useful and I use them on most of the websites I develop.

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

I'm just writing the entry for JWN

_________________
"Exploited yesterday... Hacked tomorrow"
Blog http://brian.teeman.net/
Joomla Hidden Secrets http://hiddenjoomlasecrets.com/

excellent ..

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

Excellent work Chris, just what I was after! Not keen to have third party ads on my site unless I specifically choose them.

I'm wondering though, if this component is based on other GPL code isn't Artio obliged to release the source of their ad-free version? I guess the only case they wouldn't be is if they had written the thing completely from scratch, in which case they could license it how they like. I could be wrong here though..

hmmmm .. somehow i doubt the code is written from scratch for the ad free version .. something to take up with Artio themselves maybe ..

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

mmm. My understanding is that if they have written every bit of Joomsef then they are allowed to license it how they like - including releasing it as GPL and also releasing it under a commercial license. But if it was ever based on another GPL project (and I had some vague notion is was based on sef404x or something) then they can't change the license at all as long as some original code remains. Any GPL gurus here to confirm/reject this idea?

Why all peoples thinks that GNU/GPL means Free Of Fees. This is really depressing ......

_________________
Radek Suski
Sigsiu.NET - SOBI Development Team
Internet: http://www.Sigsiu.NET
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/neo_sigsiu_net

I don't think that at all. I think that making money from open-source projects is a great thing and a real demonstration of the power and value of open-source tools. But open-source wouldn't have the user-base and resources if it didn't have the 'open' part, and that's all to do with licensing. Ignoring licensing is counter-productive to open-source projects in general IMHO.

You don't? Hmmm funny ...





Who said that the version of JoomSEF which Artio selling is non-GPL !!!!

This is great too:


and


Yes, this really great work Chris. You're great developer because You can remove few lines of code (BTW: I checked this patched version - it violate GPL Licence)  ... it was really great work Chris ....

But the Artio is the evil man. It does not really matter that he developed real good component.  His work is not "important addition to the Joomla community" because he put to many informations about himself in this work. You know this "the encrypted spam" (BTW I cannot remember to installing Ion Cube or Zend Guard on my server before I used JoomSEF). But Chris have done really great work, now Artio is no more able to make money with they component. So they will maybe stop the development. I hope that  Chris is a good developer and he will be able to continue the development of JoomSEF.

I'm very evil man too because in my component is small "powered by" link, and it is in some way (using Your definition of encryption) encrypted too... I still waiting who .... never mind ....

Keep going so... until every good developer stop his work for Joomla

_________________
Radek Suski
Sigsiu.NET - SOBI Development Team
Internet: http://www.Sigsiu.NET
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/neo_sigsiu_net

I know that the quotes are not from You. I jut want to show that whatever You said, the whole discussion was just about money .....

_________________
Radek Suski
Sigsiu.NET - SOBI Development Team
Internet: http://www.Sigsiu.NET
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/neo_sigsiu_net

Making money off OS projects is fine (when you are doing the work), but when a company like "ARTIO" takes and completely open source component 404sef by the real author (marlboro man from the old mambo community) and re-brands the component to fit to their site format and sales process, there is something fundamentally wrong.

http://mamboxchange.com/projects/sef404/

ARTIO have blatantly abused the open source license, when they encrypted this open source component to their own personal gain. IMHO.

Joomla.org community is also guilty of "supporting" multiple other plagiarized components by posting them in the extensions directory.

JoomSEF is not JoomSEF it's in FACT 404sef released OS by the Marlboro Man.

Re-brand mean "just change the name". I think Artio done much more as this.



Show me where the source code is encrypted ??


And SEF Advance is openSEF of course. And linux is Unix. Because the functionality is identical 

_________________
Radek Suski
Sigsiu.NET - SOBI Development Team
Internet: http://www.Sigsiu.NET
Twitter: http://m.twitter.com/neo_sigsiu_net

Agreed, the interface has vastly improved with Artio's input, my point is. Changing a few images, and patching up the back end usability, does not give Artio the right to remove all attributions from the original authors.

Im not the only one that thinks this way. There are several posts on the subject.

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php?topic ... .msg922626



PGJyIC8+PHNwYW4+Sm9vbVNFRiBTRU8gYnkgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3
dy5hcnRpby5uZXQiIHRpdGxlPSJkYXRhYmFzZXMsIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHN5c
3RlbXMgYW5kIHdlYiBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMiPkFydGlvPC9hPi48L3NwYW4+P
HNwYW4+Q28tc3BvbnNvcmVkIGJ5IDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cubW
ljaGlnYW5tYWtlb3Zlci5jb20iIHRpdGxlPSJQbGFzdGljIGFuZCBDb3NtZXRpYyBT
dXJnZXJ5IGluIE1pY2hpZ2FuOiBCcmVhc3QgSW1wbGFudHMsIFR1bW15IFR1
Y2ssIExpcG9zdWN0aW9uIGFuZCBCcmVhc3QgTGlmdC4gSG9uZXN0IEFuc3
dlcnMgYWJvdXQgUmlzaywgUGFpbiwgQ29zdCBhbmQgUmVzdWx0cyBieS
BEci4gU3RldmVuIE1vcnJpcywgQm9hcmQgQ2VydGlmaWVkIFBsYXN0aWMgU
3VyZ2Vvbi4iPlBsYXN0aWMgYW5kIENvc21ldGljIFN1cmdlcnkgaW4gTWljaGl
nYW48L2E+ICZhbXA7IDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cubW9yYXZhdG9
1ci5jeiIgdGl0bGU9Ik1vcmF2YXRvdXIgLSBkb3ZvbGVuYSB1IG1vcmUiPmRvd
m9sZW5hIHUgbW9yZTwvYT4uPC9zcGFuPg==-IEpvb21TRUYgU0VPIGJ5I
EFydGlvIChodHRwOi8vd3d3LmFydGlvLm5ldCkgLSBkYXRhYmFzZXMsIGluZm
9ybWF0aW9uIHN5c3RlbSBhbmQgd2ViIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9ucywgY28tc3Bv
bnNvcmVkIGJ5IERyLiBTdGV2ZW4gTW9ycmlzIChodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1pY2
hpZ2FubWFrZW92ZXIuY29tIikgLSBQbGFzdGljIGFuZCBDb3NtZXRpYyBTdX
JnZXJ5IGluIE1pY2hpZ2FuICZhbXA7IE1vcmF2YXRvdXIgKGh0dHA6Ly93d3
cubW9yYXZhdG91ci5jeikgLSBkb3ZvbGVuYSB1IG1vcmU=-PGJyIC8+PHN
wYW4+Sm9vbVNFRiBTRU8gYnkgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5hcnRpb
y5uZXQiIHRpdGxlPSJkYXRhYmFzZXMsIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHN5c3RlbXMg
YW5kIHdlYiBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMiPkFydGlvPC9hPi48L3NwYW4+-IEpvb21
TRUYgU0VPIGJ5IEFydGlvIChodHRwOi8vd3d3LmFydGlvLm5ldCkgLSBkYX
RhYmFzZXMsIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHN5c3RlbSBhbmQgd2ViIGFwcGxpY2
F0aW9ucw==

Base64 perhaps?



Yes, absolutely, I agree, 100%, nail on the head, WindowsXP is Ubuntu coz, they both have desktop, Firefox is Internet Explorer, etc.

Thanks for you

Yes is Base64 decoded it is:

_________________
The "Humor, Fun and Games" forum has  more than 2500 Posts, so why not build a "Humor, Fun and Games Working" Group?
.....
Malicious tongues say we have this WG right from the start, they call it core team

Artio use two base64 encryptions and one other encryption within the sef_ext.php file .. fortunately these are easy enough to decode and then rip apart to remove their adverts.  As a side note any mods i do to remove these adverts will also make the code quicker as it removes all decoding and translating for these base64 and other encryptions completely from component.

If you did not know I was contacted by Artio asking for removal of my JoomSEF release from the JED and from my site.

I have decided to refuse their invitation to remove my releases and in line with Artio releases I have decided to release the latest version 2.1.0 of the JoomSEF patched component.  Check on my site in the next 9 hours.

Keep it free .. keep it advert free .. link to my site if you like and use the component ..

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

Great work Chris, keep 'em coming

Also, it would help if people would visit the JED and cast a vote and maybe even wrote a small review for the Patched version so that it can be positioned ahead of the normal Artio release in the JED .. that way we stop the spread of SPAM software and give people best practice software ..

http://extensions.joomla.org/component/ ... Itemid,35/

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

Well Chris goodonya m8!

It's encouraging to see developers take an assertive role in keeping "open source" open. Due to Artio's many obvious misdemeanors I highly doubt they would have any real claim to the bulk of the component code, now or in future.

GPL is GPL after all, and what was released was released.

Thanks again, for your time.

PS. In future my posts will hopefully not be as militant.

thanks cdiprose, i appreciate the contribution.

it is sad that artio took the adware route. hopefully they lose enough sales and decide to clean up their code.

i would love to support them for all the great work that they have done and will do so again if they remove the adware. until then, i owe you a beer cdiprose.

_________________
Mark Simpson
http://ninjaforge.com - Professional Joomla extensions.
http://twitter.com/mark_up

If you do want to help then you could

1. vote for the extension on the JED
2. write a review for it on the JED
3. link to my site from your new SEF enabled website

all good ..

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com

eeek, no links, sorry ... but i'll throw in a review 

/*OT: damn these smileys are ugly!*/

_________________
Mark Simpson
http://ninjaforge.com - Professional Joomla extensions.
http://twitter.com/mark_up

everyone shy's away from linking to other websites but they are essential .. i wonder how long before the Google PR system actually rewards having some good links on websites!?

It wouldn't surprise me if they did calculate something totally complex like this into their linking algorithm .. after all there are ~300 factors assessed on PR.

_________________
Chris Diprose
Manager
Kanga Internet : http://www.kangainternet.com