I did a fresh install of Joomla 1.0.7 and enabled SEO. Then I renamed htaccess.txt to .htaccess

But I cannot access the homepage by just entering http://mydomain.com (with or without trailing slash) into my browser. It works if I enter http://mydomain.com/index.php and then all other pages are accessible with the SEO URLs.

I compared with another installation of Joomla 1.0.4 which also has SEO enabled, and similar global configuration, and .htaccess, and I couldn't figure out the reason why it doesn't work with 1.0.7

Is this a bug or should I change some other configuration?

Thanks

http://www.yoursite.com


Try that.

This is what happened. I installed Joomla at http://alpha.stanmed.net and I get a 404 if I access the site as http://alpha.stanmed.net or http://www.alpha.stanmed.net But the site is accessible at http://alpha.stanmed.net/index.php and http://www.alpha.stanmed.net/index.php

If I add the index.php, it works fine (when SEO is turned on).

Now, I have Apache 1.x from on my webhosting company's servers, and my webroot is ~/public_html but the above joomla installation is at ~/public_html/alpha

If I access http://www.stanmed.net/alpha, then everything works fine, I do not get a 404.

But I also have another joomla installtion at ~/public_html/beta and I can access beta.stanmed.net whichever way I want (as descibed above for alpha), and it works just fine.

Here is the .htaccess of my ~/public_html


Options +FollowSymLinks

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /


RewriteRule ^([^\.]+[^/])$ http://%{HTTP_HOST}/$1/ [R=301,L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/alpha/
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(www\.)?alpha\.
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ alpha/$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/beta/
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(www\.)?beta\.
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ beta/$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/home/
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(www\.)?stanmed\.
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ home/$1 [L]


Apart from this, the configuration.php and .htaccess of both the alpha and the beta sites look similar. Any pointers? Please let me know if you need any other information.

Thanks a lot

I think it's related to this:

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... #msg153043

I know that this doesn't help, but it must be something to do with your configuration because everything is ok on my end.  The normal Joomla SEO is working great.

Put the Joomla .htaccess file in each subdirectory. Do not try to get SEF working for subdomains/subdirectories from a root Joomla .htaccess file.

Sen wrote:I think it's related to this:

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... #msg153043

I don't think so Sen.  The sef.php file was fixed and already added and debugged and blah, blah before the release of 1.0.6.  The sef.php file was actually fixed for the 1.0.5 and was available for download so you could fix it for the 1.0.5 version. 

I already posted this else where, but I did set up a subdomain with a installation of Joomla in a subfolder, renamed my htaccess file in the subfolder, and I am not having any issues.  Since you have it working with 1.0.4, could there possible be a issue with the new code and your php version, or something of that nature?  I can't seem to replicate it here.  Sorry.  My url is joomla.pioneerwestinc.com (this installation will be removed in a day or two).

Charles

charlwillia6 wrote: The sef.php file was fixed and already added and debugged and blah, blah before the release of 1.0.6.  The sef.php file was actually fixed for the 1.0.5 and was available for download so you could fix it for the 1.0.5 version. 

Note, however, that the SEF from 1.0.5 has been changed for 1.0.7.  It is not the same code or behaviour.

Try to put this in your htaccess:

DirectoryIndex index.php index.htm index.html

Dee

Elpie wrote:
Note, however, that the SEF from 1.0.5 has been changed for 1.0.7.  It is not the same code or behaviour.

I was trying to say that....

DubInDee wrote:Try to put this in your htaccess:

DirectoryIndex index.php index.htm index.html

Dee

Same problem here, but your solution doesn't work.

[edit]
The problem is partially in the sef.php. I've replaced the 1.0.7 edition with an older one and the site works again. I'm not sure if this is oke (related to security reasons).

charlwillia6 wrote:

Sen wrote:I think it's related to this:

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... #msg153043

I don't think so Sen.  The sef.php file was fixed and already added and debugged and blah, blah before the release of 1.0.6.  The sef.php file was actually fixed for the 1.0.5 and was available for download so you could fix it for the 1.0.5 version. 

I already posted this else where, but I did set up a subdomain with a installation of Joomla in a subfolder, renamed my htaccess file in the subfolder, and I am not having any issues.  Since you have it working with 1.0.4, could there possible be a issue with the new code and your php version, or something of that nature?  I can't seem to replicate it here.  Sorry.  My url is joomla.pioneerwestinc.com (this installation will be removed in a day or two).

Charles

May be not, but I guess there's a bug lurking somewhere. As soon as I installed opensef, it works all right. I dont get a 404 anymore. I guess the core sef has a bug somewhere. I think it fails to resolve "/" to index.php or the frontpage URL or something?!

Maybe so, you should post it to the bug/tracker on the forge just in case, if you haven't already. 

charlwillia6 wrote:Maybe so, you should post it to the bug/tracker on the forge just in case, if you haven't already. 

Oh, I havent yet. 

I'll do it, thanks Charles.

I have been monitoring reports regards this issue.

However, I have as yet not seen any identifiable reason why people are experiencing this problem.



We have 5 Official Joomla! sites:
* http://www.joomla.org
* help.joomla.org
* http://www.opensourcematters.org
* the other 2 are yet to be launched

All are now running 1.0.7 and all have Core SEF on and all are working correctly

Thanks Stingrey,

I mentioned this before, but could it be a Apache version issue?  That is all I can think of.

charlwillia6 wrote:I mentioned this before, but could it be a Apache version issue?  That is all I can think of.

Possibly, however I have deployed 1.0.7 on following versions of Apache

Joomla! Official sites
Apache/1.3.34

Server I provide services with
Apache/1.3.33

Clients server
Apache/1.3.27

Local Test servers
Apache/2.0.55
Apache/1.3.33

stingrey wrote:

charlwillia6 wrote:I mentioned this before, but could it be a Apache version issue?  That is all I can think of.

Possibly, however I have deployed 1.0.7 on following versions of Apache

Joomla! Official sites
Apache/1.3.34

Server I provide services with
Apache/1.3.33

Clients server
Apache/1.3.27

Local Test servers
Apache/2.0.55
Apache/1.3.33

I can set you up with an FTP account on a subdomain on my site where I get these error messages (Apache 1.x). I wont be able to give shell access though. Let me know if you need one.

Could be the problem occur by people who have installed their Joomla in a subdir? I have, because i've to redirect my URLS to a $directory i want - my hoster doesn't do that for me.
This is my config:

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PHP built On:       Linux server12.firstfind.nl 2.4.29brdw1 #1 SMP Wed Jan 26 10:34:44 CET 2005 i686
Database Version:    4.1.15-Debian_0.dotdeb.0
PHP Version:    4.4.1-0.dotdeb.2
Web Server:    Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux mod_layout/3.2 PHP/4.4.1-0.dotdeb.2 mod_ssl/2.8.9 OpenSSL/0.9.6c
WebServer to PHP interface:    apache
Joomla! Version:    Joomla! 1.0.7 Stable [ Sunburst ] 15-Jan-2006 20:00 UTC


Lenn-art wrote:Could be the problem occur by people who have installed their Joomla in a subdir? I have, because i've to redirect my URLS to a $directory i want - my hoster doesn't do that for me.
This is my config:

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PHP built On:       Linux server12.firstfind.nl 2.4.29brdw1 #1 SMP Wed Jan 26 10:34:44 CET 2005 i686
Database Version:    4.1.15-Debian_0.dotdeb.0
PHP Version:    4.4.1-0.dotdeb.2
Web Server:    Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux mod_layout/3.2 PHP/4.4.1-0.dotdeb.2 mod_ssl/2.8.9 OpenSSL/0.9.6c
WebServer to PHP interface:    apache
Joomla! Version:    Joomla! 1.0.7 Stable [ Sunburst ] 15-Jan-2006 20:00 UTC


Possibly. My webhost (site5.com) also uses wildcard subdomains, so all the subdomains direct to the root domain. I use a .htaccess rewrite in my webroot to redirect to the correct directory. I also have the Joomla's .htaccess in the Joomla directory (with the proper RewriteBase directive).

I think Joomla 1.0.7's core SEO does not know how to handle the requested path (which is just a forward slash). Because the 404 I get is from Joomla, not an Apache 404. But if I install OpenSEF for Joomla 1.0.7, it resolves fine. The error goes away.

But I do not get the 404 with Joomla 1.0.4 with core SEO.

I think this is an error with the core SEO in Joomla 1.0.7.

Here's a screenshot, you can see that the URL it gives me points to itself (something goes in circles?). I also have shown the source code to show that it's a Joomla 404.

So, apache hands over fine to Joomla's index.php which chokes.


Screenshot:
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=joomla4040bm.png

Offtopic, but if you install OpenSEF latest version (2.0.something beta 3), you will get a lot of XML errors (notices, actually) on the admin backend. Download the fix for one of the files (sef.backend.php, IIRC) from the opensef.org discussion forums, and this error will go away. They said they will include this patch in rc1.

I FIXED IT!!! :D

This is from the core SEF file --> includes/sef.php

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   } else {

      /*
      Unknown content
      http://www.domain.com/unknown
      */
      $jdir = str_replace( 'index.php', '', $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] );
      $juri = str_replace( $jdir, '', $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] );

      if ($juri != "" && !eregi( "index\.php", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ) && !eregi( "index2\.php", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ) && !eregi( "/\?", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ) ) {
         header( 'HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found' );
         require_once( $mosConfig_absolute_path . '/templates/404.php' );
         exit( 404 );
      }
   }



If no matching URL is found, core SEF checks against a few possible strings to validate the incoming URL. It checks only against an empty string or index.php or index2.php or other existing directories.

But it never checks if the incoming REQUEST_URI is just a /

If I add that, it starts working all right.

This is what I changed line 216 to:

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      if ($juri != "/" && $juri != "" && !eregi( "index\.php", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ) && !eregi( "index2\.php", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ) && !eregi( "/\?", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ) ) {


Note that I check against a single forward slash. Because some Apache configurations may just provide this. Core SEF did not check against it, causing the Joomla 404. But when I installed OpenSEF, it handled this properly.

Let me know if there are any errors, security risks, etc with my fix. Thanks.

Sen wrote:Offtopic, but if you install OpenSEF latest version (2.0.something beta 3), you will get a lot of XML errors (notices, actually) on the admin backend. Download the fix for one of the files (sef.backend.php, IIRC) from the opensef.org discussion forums, and this error will go away. They said they will include this patch in rc1.

Maybe the Lenn-art here and lennart @ opensef-forum are the same I've installed openSef and i like the possibilities of opensef (for example: you can specify http://www.domain.tld/gothere for a much longer URL). So, i think i stay with opensef

Sen,

Im also with site5 - could this be the way their servers are configured....? I was having a problem where my administrator folder was pw protected with htaccess but I always got a 404 - i.e never prompted for the password. With the 1.07 version of sef.php I couldnt access the administrator folder.
With your fix, I can access administrator but not from http://www.mysite.com/administrator, only from mysite.com/administrator/index.php, so at least that's something.....

This issue is being followed in this tracker:

http://forge.joomla.org/sf/go/artf3108?nav=1

antrimcoaster wrote:Sen,

Im also with site5 - could this be the way their servers are configured....? I was having a problem where my administrator folder was pw protected with htaccess but I always got a 404 - i.e never prompted for the password. With the 1.07 version of sef.php I couldnt access the administrator folder.
With your fix, I can access administrator but not from http://www.mysite.com/administrator, only from mysite.com/administrator/index.php, so at least that's something.....

Does http://www.mysite.com work? If not, it's a DNS issue.

If DNS is okay, can you post your .htaccess please? It's easy to fix.

well .. all is working fine with this fix except facile forms component, 404 error on all places where a facile form should be placed

gdanx wrote:well .. all is working fine with this fix except facile forms component, 404 error on all places where a facile form should be placed

What is a facile form? Did it work before the fix? By fix, did you mean my edit of core sef or installing opensef?

If Facile forms isn't working then it probable is an issue with the sef_ext.php file for that component (if it even has one).  You must be using OpenSEF, because it should still work with just Joomla's SEF on.

I also thought there is a "bug" in Joomla 1.07 regarding this.
But now, I'm not sure where the "bug" is!

Yesterday I did a new installation of Joomla 1.07, on a brand new domain, installed in the root "public_html" folder on a WHM/cPanel server.

All was working OK right away, installed MosCE and Norwegian language and turned on Joomla SEO.

One thing I do ASAP on a new domain using Joomla, is to protect the "administrator" folder using "Password Protect Directories" function in cPanel.

This is something I have on all my other domains using Joomla/Mambo, and never had any problems before Joomla 1.07!
After I did this, I can no longer use URL /administrator/. Using this I get a 404 page, or just the frontend.
I did try the "fix" Sen outlined earlier in this thread, but his fix did not work for me.
I also tried the "sef.php" fix that was posted here after the 1.05 release also have some kind of problems with SEO. Did not work either.

But in some last "testing" before writing here, I turned of the password I had set on the "administrator" folder, and using only the URL /administrator/ started to work again, so I do not need to use /administrator/index.php to get in to backend.

Password protect "administrator" folder in Joomla 1.04 works without any problems, so I looks for me that there is a "bug" with SEO after Joomla 1.04 was released, this is the "newest" version I have used until yesterday with a new installation of 1.07.