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Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Prokleta_nedelja on Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:27 pm

Ovako, mozda priglupo pitanje ali sta je to SEO?
kada ga ukljucim kaze mi da moram da promjenim htaccess.txt u .htaccess

sta dobijam a sta gubim ukljucivanjem SEO?
postoji li opasnost da mi padne sajt zbog toga?
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby BSD on Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:57 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization

Ne postoji opasnost da ti padne sajt zbog toga...bar ja do sad nisam iskusio probleme zbog SEO.;)
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Lanee on Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:13 pm

kad smo vec kod SEO
ja sam instalirao neki od nekoliko komada koje je search extenzija izbacio ...

zove se ARTIO JoomSEF
i imam problem da nabudzim .htaccess pa da proradi

kad imam .htaccess u rootu i kad sadrzi ono shto treba
sajt ne radi i zbacuje error 500

pa molim ko zna da mi pomogne ili u pisanju .htaccess-a ili u uzboru komponente
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Vrlo Jak Tim on Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:30 pm

Probaj ovako.
Tu i i register_globals na OFF, ako ti server podržava.

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######COPYRIGHT##########
# .htaccess file for Joomla/Mambo SEF useage
# Copyright 2006 Steve Graham   Contact me at http:/coders.mlshomequest.com/
# Licensed under the LGPL.  You are free to use and include this file in
# any project or codebase subject to the LGPL license at:
# http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html
######END COPYRIGHT#######

##
#  READ THIS COMPLETELY IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS FILE
#
# The line just below this section: 'Options FollowSymLinks' may cause problems
# with some server configurations.  It is required for use of mod_rewrite, but may already
# be set by your server administrator in a way that dissallows changing it in
# your .htaccess file.  If using it causes your server to error out, comment it out (add # to
# beginning of line), reload your site in your browser and test your sef url's.  If they work,
# it has been set by your server administrator and you do not need it set here.
#
# Only use one of the two SEF sections that follow.  Lines that can be uncommented
# (and thus used) have only one #.  Lines with two #'s should not be uncommented
# In the section that you don't use, all lines should start with #
#
# For Standard SEF, use the standard SEF section.  You can comment out
# all of the RewriteCond lines and reduce your server's load if you
# don't have directories in your root named 'component' or 'content'
#
# If you are using a 3rd Party SEF or the Core SEF solution
# uncomment all of the lines in the '3rd Party or Core SEF' section
#
#####  SOLVING PROBLEMS WITH COMPONENT URL's that don't work #####
# SPECIAL NOTE FOR SMF USERS WHEN SMF IS INTEGRATED AND BRIDGED
# OR ANY SITUATION WHERE A COMPONENT's URL's AREN't WORKING
#
# In both the 'Standard SEF', and '3rd Party or Core SEF' sections the line:
# RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
# May need to be uncommented.  If you are running your Joomla/Mambo from
# a subdirectory the name of the subdirectory will need to be inserted into this
# line.  For example, if your Joomla/Mambo is in a subdirectory called '/test/',
# change this:
# RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
# to this:
# RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/test/component/option,com) [NC,OR] ##optional - see notes##
#
##

##  Can be commented out if causes errors, see notes above.
# Options FollowSymLinks

#
# mod_rewrite in use

RewriteEngine On
php_flag register_globals off

#  Uncomment following line if your webserver's URL
#  is not directly related to physical file paths.
#  Update Your Joomla/MamboDirectory (just / for root)

# RewriteBase /


########## Begin Standard SEF Section
## ALL (RewriteCond) lines in this section are only required if you actually
## have directories named 'content' or 'component' on your server
## If you do not have directories with these names, comment them out.
#
#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]            ##optional - see notes##
#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
#RewriteRule ^(content/|component/) index.php
#
########## End Standard SEF Section


########## Begin 3rd Party or Core SEF Section
#
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]            ##optional - see notes##
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule (.*) index.php
#
########## End 3rd Party or Core SEF Section
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Prokleta_nedelja on Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:15 pm

kada sam uljucio SEF promjenio sam htaccess.txt u .htaccess ali mi je sajt bio nedostupan (osim prve strane)

sta dobija a sta gubim ukljucivanjem SEF-a?
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Vrlo Jak Tim on Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:50 pm

SEO je skraćenica od Search Engine Optimization, SEF je Search Engine Friendly, pa eto šta gubiš.
Roboti se malo teže nose sa upitnicima, ampersandima i znacima interpunkcije. Lakše im je da svare samo slova i crtice.
Jedan od mojih sajtova je nakon optimizacije linkova dospio sa ~150. na 2. mjesto. Ne vjerujem da je bilo slučajno.

A evo kako ARTIO SEF radi: http://www.zenskicentar.org
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Prokleta_nedelja on Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:56 pm

a kako da rijesim to sto, nakon preimenovanja htaccess.txt u .htaccess, moja stranice postane nedostupna? O cemu se radi?
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Vrlo Jak Tim on Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:04 pm

Pokušaj ovako:

Ako koristiš 3rd party (OpenSEF, JoomSEF...) onda iskopiraj ovaj htaccess iz prethodnog posta.

Ako koristiš Joomlin default SEO, onda postavi komentare na "3rd party section", a skini komentare sa "Standard SEF section".
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Prokleta_nedelja on Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:10 pm

Moras mi malo pojasniti, stvarno nisam ovo nikada radio...
koristim joomlin SEF e ajd mi sad napravi pojasnjenje "za glupe"

sta da uradim, korak po korak. Stvarno mi je potrebno jer mi pretrazivac slabo indeksira
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Vrlo Jak Tim on Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:37 pm

Evo, pokušaj sa ovim htaccess.txt, pa ga preimenuj u .htaccess
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Prokleta_nedelja on Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:28 pm

instalirao sam ARTIO joomlaSEF

kopirao sam onaj fajl koji si mi poslao kao .htaccess

aktivirao sam joomla SEF (onaj iz global config) ali on mi kada kliknem na dugme reportaza ubaci u link neki folder
sta sad da radim?
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Vrlo Jak Tim on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:09 pm

Oprosti, ali pokušaj da budeš bar malo precizniji u svojim pitanjima.

Za početak, otiđi u konfigurisanje SEFa: Components - ARTIO JoomSef - Configuration, pa ga podesi po želji (a želiš, ili ne želiš, da ti URL sadrži naziv sekcije, kategorije...)

Posle toga, otiđi u Components - ARTIO JoomSef - View/Edit SEF URLs, pa ispravi eventualne "brljoke" (nekompletan SEF URL, pogrešan jezik, etc...)
Kad budeš ispravljao SEF URL-ove, možeš ih brebaciti u Custom SEF URL, koje kasnije možeš backupovati.
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Lanee on Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:06 pm

hmmm pa konstantno imam problem sa .htaccess-om ni jedna od onih varijanti .htaccessa nije uspela
instaliram ja ARTIO i kliknem u global setings na enable SEO ali kad god se bilo kakav .htaccess nalazi na serveru,
on mi zabode i front i backend i izbaci error 500.... ???? jel to znachi da server to ne podrzava ili shta ????

u pitanju je veratov hosting koji se nalazi na uzasno matorom php-u i mysql-u mozda je do toga
ali ipak ima apache ... neki hehehehe

ako je hosting problem nad problemima onda ima da leti odmah
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Lanee on Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:45 pm

evo probao sam i na localhost-u (na svom kompu) da zbudzim .htaccess
i nece ni ovde da radi i isti problem se javlja error 500 ??? ???
skroooz sam u zbunu ne mogu ni da poteram ovaj program jer chim imam u root-u
.htaccess ne mogu ni gde da pristupim

ufff a baash mi treba ovo jer nece da mi nadje ni title sajta u googlu !!!!
jel mogu ja nekako da poteram google da ponovo skrabuje moj sajt
jer izbacuje da ga je updatovao 25 avgusta a tad je stranica bila off pa izbacuje joomla offline
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Lanee on Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:01 am

jel ima neko ko moze da malo pomogne  :'(
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby NenadSoko on Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:34 pm

Ja sam isto to probao na Veratu nece ni da Bog, samo posalje poruku 500 j.... se!!

A dobijam i obavestenje da je PHP register_globals setting is `ON` instead of `OFF`, a to je do njih.

Kako da prevazidjem ovaj problem!!
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Leftfield on Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:57 pm

Ja sam isto to probao na Veratu nece ni da Bog, samo posalje poruku 500 j.... se!!

;D  ;D  ;D

Da namjestis register_global moras da napravis php.ini fajl sa kodom "register_globals = off" u svakom direktorijumu koji ima php fajlove na tvom websajtu. Ali mozes staviti php.ini samo u root folderu Joomle ... - LINK ZA DETALJNO OBJASNJENJE

Bilo bi odlicno da se razni problemi postavljaju kao zaseban Topic radi drugih korisnika radi lakseg pretrazivanja.
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby fantastic on Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:26 pm

Register globals mozes da promijenis na off ako u globals.php postavis umjesto register_globals 1 na register_globals 0. Da li neko moze podesiti .htaccess fajl da radi na veratovom hostingu, ovako mi uvijek izbacuje error 500.
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby fantastic on Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:58 pm

Ima li neko .htaccess datoteku a da mu radi na veratu?
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby fantastic on Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:12 am

Ima li ovdje ikoga?  :P
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Leftfield on Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:59 pm

Ima, ali niko nema na veratu
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby NenadSoko on Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:34 am

Leftfield wrote:
Ja sam isto to probao na Veratu nece ni da Bog, samo posalje poruku 500 j.... se!!

;D  ;D  ;D

Da namjestis register_global moras da napravis php.ini fajl sa kodom "register_globals = off" u svakom direktorijumu koji ima php fajlove na tvom websajtu. Ali mozes staviti php.ini samo u root folderu Joomle ... - LINK ZA DETALJNO OBJASNJENJE

Bilo bi odlicno da se razni problemi postavljaju kao zaseban Topic radi drugih korisnika radi lakseg pretrazivanja.


Uradio sam kako kaze uputstvo, prekopirao sam ova dva fajla u joomla root i pokrenuo ali i dalje mi stoji poruka PHP register_globals setting is `ON` instead of `OFF`.

Na posletku sam isto uradio u lokalu i evo sta pise u error logu [client 127.0.0.1] e:/my documents/www/www.smed-palanka.co.yu/.htaccess: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Leftfield on Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:26 am

Sokole,
ne znam kako stoji stvar sa localhostom na M$.

Na Linuxu treba uraditi sledece stvari:
u globals.php treba promijeniti define( 'RG_EMULATION', 1 ); na define( 'RG_EMULATION', 0 ); (ovo je valjda kao u M$)

Vrlo Jak Tim ti je dao gore odlican primjer sa jasnim objasnjejnem.
Meni je .htaccess skoro identican kao njegov i sljaka sve kako treba.
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby NenadSoko on Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:36 am

Hm interesantno, meni od instalacije stoji define( 'RG_EMULATION', 0 );

Ja sam sa tim primerom opet dobijao istu gresku, medjutim kada sam postavio RewriteEngine na Off poceo je da sljaka i generise stranice i u browseru link pokazuje na tu skracenu putanju, medjutim kada kliknem na link otvara stranicu na kojoj pise.

The webpage cannot be found
HTTP 404 
  Most likely causes:
There might be a typing error in the address.
If you clicked on a link, it may be out of date.

  What you can try:
    Retype the address. 

    Go back to the previous page.

    Go to 127.0.0.1 and look for the information you want. 

    More information

Ovo isto pise imao nemao .htaccess.
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Leftfield on Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:06 am

Uff, najbolje bi bilo da aploudujes htaccess, global i config...

Prvo, pod Windows nece bas da ti radi Rewrite i to jer je stupid i kod njega se drukcije podesava...
Mod_rewrite je Apachova ekstenzija.
Preimenuj htaccess.txt u .htaccess
Ukljuci u Administrativnom panelu ono Yes za .htaccess
Meni je nesto ovako (ja koristim 3rd party i nece ti bas raditi ako ga i ti nemas):

Options +FollowSymLinks    ##  ovo probaj dal radi  ##
RewriteEngine On    ##  ovo mora jer omogucuje to sto zelimo  ##

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^(/component/option,com) [NC,OR]    ##  ovo probaj dal radi  ##
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (/|\.htm|\.php|\.html|/[^.]*)$  [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule (.*) index.php

Ovo je stvar tweakovanja...

NPR (kako da uradimo iz obicnog HTML-a da imamo ko bajagi PHP):
Ako hocemo:
index.php?task=categories            (Imamo kategoriju)
index.php?task=category&id=9    (pokazuje kategoriju)
Hocemo da uradimo:
RewriteRule ^(.*).html index.php?task=$1

Dje je:
^          znak da sve prije toga ne zelimo da se mijenja
(.*)       znaci SVE
$1          parametar koji znaci dje treba da se stavi "maska"
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby fantastic on Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:32 am

Kod mene ne moze ni RewriteEngine On ni RewriteEngine Off, cak i kad unesem neki tekst npr. aaa izbacuje mi error 500.  :(
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby Leftfield on Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:39 am

Izvini zbog predjasnjeg posta, pucala mi Mozilla prvi put :S, morao sam da restartujem.

505 kazes. Ja sam to rijesio ovako. Podesio sam CHMOD na .htaccess 777, odradio sve i poslije vratio na default.
Pogledaj: Options +FollowSymLinks    ##  ovo probaj dal radi  ##
Molim te da budes precizniji sta si probao a sta nisi. Ovako mozemo do 2008.
Aplouduj tvoj htaccess.
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby NenadSoko on Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:51 am

Kad smo kod uploada, kako da uploadujem htaccess, kao binary ili kao ascii ili mozda mogu da ga postavim na auto, pa sam da odredi?
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Re: Objasnjenje SEO

Postby NenadSoko on Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:13 pm

Ajd da krenem redom, na sajtu http://www.nas.org.yu sam instalirao componentu ARTIO JoomSEF i sa svojim default htaccess-om radi perfektno.

Problem imam sa drugim sajtom http://www.palankawireless.org.yu koji se nalazi na istom serveru. Za njega uradim sve potpuno isto kao i za prethodni, u korak isto i nece da otvori ni jednu stranicu, samo mi izda poruku page not found, u tome je problem.
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