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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby ot2sen » Sun May 27, 2007 2:54 pm

infograf768 wrote:Please update the link on JED.  ;)

(For the reader: see http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla_1_5_tr1/frs/ )

Gave a helping hand and speeded up the updating. JED listing now have correct URLs  ;)
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby igevans » Sun May 27, 2007 3:46 pm

ot2sen wrote:Gave a helping hand and speeded up the updating. JED listing now have correct URLs  ;)


That was quick - many thanks.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby safemode » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:39 am

Hello.

Is it possible, to use this Language Manager to translate 3-rd part components and/or modules such as VirtueMart?
What should be done?
How tokens(?) are managed?

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby Roman Blanty » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:45 am

Yes and no.
Yes, if language file handling sticks to new Joomla! 1.5 localization file handling. No because, at this moment, VM doesn't.


Tak i nie.
Tak jeśli system plików językowych jest zgodny z nową architekturą lokalizacji w Joomla! 1.5. Nie bo w VM na razie nie jest.
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby KnightHV » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:40 pm

I'm Vietnamese and I think that Joomla is so good with webmaster in VietNam. Vietnamese is required

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby infograf768 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:05 pm

KnightHV wrote:I'm Vietnamese and I think that Joomla is so good with webmaster in VietNam. Vietnamese is required

Please contact our Vietnamese Translation Team
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby CirTap » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:47 pm

Hi,

I've been watching this for a while and finally managed to download and install. This is such a great component! Kudos, Ifans!

Already done a bunch of translation files in basically no time, incl. a German translation of Translation Manager itself.
Feel free to add this to your distribution or do with it whatever you want. Its just the .ini files, and only a tiny, tiny contribution to your awesome work.
I have not yet managed to walk through all the many features :D

There's one "phrase" I coudn't find in your (en-GB) language file: "new key", the label used when adding a, well ... new key and phrase.

One dumb question though: where's the status of a file marked as complete stored? Is it just a session thing, or more permanent?

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby igevans » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:55 am

Hi CirTap,

Thanks for the contribution and comments.  Have fixed the "New Key" and will update forge including your de-DE files soon.

The "complete" status works like this: when the checkbox is checked, the header of the INI file will include a tilde followed by the number of phrases which are the same in the source and translation files (e.g. ~2) in the translation INI file.  Each time the component parses the translation files, it checks this number for a match. If there have been changes in the source file (e.g. new or changed phrases) this match will usually be broken, so the status will no longer show as complete.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby mtk » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:40 am

Hi igevans,
just wanted to let you know it is a great component helping me a lot.

I wanted to ask if there's a plan for a Front-End part for this component, so I could share the translation process with other users without having to let them Administration access?



beside that, I think there is an alignment problem, but more on that when I have more time...
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby mtk » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:57 pm

Same question goes for Access Level, at this point only Super-Admin can view the component, is the a config you can add to set a lower level (i.e Administrator)
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby Roman Blanty » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:58 pm

I will need to combine a few versions of translation, any idea if the component will evolve in this direction any time soon? If not I will have to do some changes to the code to be able to do this.

I have, not very elegant, but efficient, idea on how to do this. There could be more directories starting wit locale with some suffix (eg. author nick) and then when opening an ini file component could go check on differences and display variants with a radiobutton to choose one which is going to endup in the main translation folder). It is heavy on resource, but then again I need it only for localhost.

If you are planing to provide solution to this and if I'll get it done my way, would you like to get the modification?
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby rbuelund » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:06 pm

Is it the manager component that's has a problem with this line WHO\'S ONLINE=Who's Online or ? I've got the line in the translationpart and it also stands for deletion !?! Maybe there is a problem with the \ sign ?
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby igevans » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:41 pm

OK, as Roman says, this could get complicated.

Personally, I want to avoid a database interface (for storing user rights etc) so am thinking about ways to get the required functionality.  A few questions:

USER/GROUP PERMISSIONS
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This should be fairly straightforward, but not something I've done so far - any pointers greatly appreciated.

FRONTEND
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I'm assuming I can "skin" the existing component from the forntend, without having to re-write everything. Will have a look over the enxt few days.

VERSIONING
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This is the real challenge.  I agree that many files is probably the best way to do it, probably using the userID in the filename.  Questions:
* who decides which changes to accept?
* store unapplied changes or delete them?
* creation and deletion of phrases?
* using this method, there will be no way to display the unapplied changes in Joomla - any ideas on this?

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I have a new job, and so I haven't had much time on this hobby/project recently.  I would say probably 3-4 weeks to look at and implement the above.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby pe7er » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:15 pm

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby mtk » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:54 pm

Hi,
I'm getting an error only when showin translation files for the administrator:

Code: Select all

Notice: Undefined offset: 4 in ...\administrator\components\com_translationsmanager\helper.php on line 55


I'm using: v1.5#7381
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby mtk » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:01 am

Is there a way to add an option to auto create the needed install.xml?
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby rued » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:39 pm

mtk wrote:Is there a way to add an option to auto create the needed install.xml?


Is already there, just hit the 'Package' button in top menu of the component - and then download the package from the tmp folder (in the rot of your installation).
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby mtk » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:42 pm

thanks, I never used that option, so I didn't know it really does that...
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby maximil » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:50 am

Hi

I'm discovering the TM and I'm absolutely amazed of this com_.

On little issue came to me while working on the french transl. : In the contact file, the word fax and information are exactly the same in french. Impossible to have the Unchanged Phrase mark removed !! How can I changed that so I can have a completed file status ??? Am I clear ???

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby rued » Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:38 am

If I remember correct now the option for this is shown to you when you open a file for translation, theres a check box for 'Mark this translation as completed' (or similar).  ;)
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby maximil » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:11 pm

You're right but the counted strings still shows 32/34.

It's not a big issue and I won't fight for this, but i just wanted to inform about this ...

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby rued » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:05 pm

That's a different thing - it's marked as ready anyway, right ...  ???
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby kelb » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:24 pm

Thanks for the component. This one must be added into package as a core component. What about this?
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby hotnuts21 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:45 am

kelb wrote:Thanks for the component. This one must be added into package as a core component. What about this?


I dont agree, only a very small amount of the users who download joomla will want or be able to translate their site. We dont want to add un-neded bloat to Joomla. A great component, but something which should be made clear its available, maybe from a link in the admin so those who want to translate can download and translate to their hearts content. Maybe also worth adding a link in the joomfish admin panel too.

Also the component should have an export feature, which allows people to export their translation to a central repository so other people can download and use the language file.

Just my 2c though :)

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby rued » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:13 am

There's one more thing missing in this great component, and that's a search feature.

This should allow us to search for  text strings, and optionally also definitions. There could be a global search telling us in witch files the string is located, and a search inside files taking us to the right location to edit it.

Since I'm not a coder I don't know how much work this would require to make, but as a translator I know it's needed. Especially for those who just want to edit a front-end string to fit their site better.
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby Roman Blanty » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:24 am

hotnuts21 wrote:
kelb wrote:Thanks for the component. This one must be added into package as a core component. What about this?


I dont agree, only a very small amount of the users who download joomla will want or be able to translate their site. We dont want to add un-neded bloat to Joomla. A great component, but something which should be made clear its available, maybe from a link in the admin so those who want to translate can download and translate to their hearts content. Maybe also worth adding a link in the joomfish admin panel too.

I don't agree with Hotnuts. First of all component can be used to customize original translation. You'd be surprised how many English strings can be put in different wording, more suitable for particular website.
Other thing is that English is not the most spoken first language despite of what many people tend to think, and Joomla! has a growing non-English user base. In my opinion it is one of the most important reasons for Joomla!'s success.
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hotnuts21 wrote:Also the component should have an export feature, which allows people to export their translation to a central repository so other people can download and use the language file.

There is an export facility and Translation WorkingGroup uses it constantly. Though it's not so direct as you suggested (generates language sets but has to be uploaded manually). There's no much need for automating it and security reasons are involved.
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby kelb » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:34 pm

Roman, thanks for your explanation. I agree with you. Can somebody contact devs about this issue?
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Language Files Manager Component

Postby infograf768 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:11 pm

As far as I know, this component —as well as Joomfish for example— will not be included in trunk.
Even if the component had been written originally by a core dev, the policy was to not include these in trunk.
Same reason to not include all pdf fonts. A matter of weight of the official package.
I doubt this policy has changed.
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Translation Manager BUG!!!??? Data Unknown

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