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Esthalon wrote:no Joomla Langauge extension for Irish. From what I've read above it sounds like it's still possible, but I'd appreciate any pointers form those that have been down this road ahead of me.

Should I proceed and if so what extensions do I need?

Hi Esthalon,

I am glad you find this thread!

To set up a bi-lingual website, once you have install Joomla, here are some general instructions.

If you have a test/development version of your web site (you really should have one ;-) , you can try on it first. Always backup a production/live website before installing an extension!
http://docs.joomla.org/Beginners#Creati ... stallation


1/ Download the Irish language files, un-finished:
You will receive the files through a Private Message.
Please read the forum if you need some help. Or post your question here, and not through Private Message, so that your problem can help everyone.

The files are for Joomla! v1.5.18, but they should work with any 1.5.x version too (if there are some missing strings, they will not be displayed, and the English original will, that's all). And if you use non-native extension, nothing should change.

The Translation policy advise not to release publicly some incomplete files, to avoid confusion and disappointment in the "non-community member" public, that's why they are available on request through this forum.


2/ Use the Joomla! installer with the zip files, in your site back-end > Extensions (menu) > Install/Uninstall


3/ The extension used to switch the language in the front-end is JoomFish. It's help to manage translation of the content, and of some components and extensions too.
http://www.joomfish.net/


4/ Then you should configure JoomFish to use a default language, and you are ready to translate your content! Do not forget menus, footer and other contents. The good news is an improved documentation now:
http://www.joomfish.net/en/documentatio ... stallation


5/ Keep in mind that if your translated part is not perfectly the same than the original one, you might need some adjustments, in menus for example. But this can be done with the free version of JoomFish, still:
http://www.joomfish.net/en/documentatio ... e-joomfish


Another language is like another dimension to your website. Almost everything is available on forum and blogs, and I have read them for hours and days! But nothing compare to experience.

So I hope everything will be fine for your website.

By the way, you are welcome to help the small team to translate some popular extensions and/or proof-read what's have been translated so far. Everything is posted here if you are interested.

Ádh mór,

Go raibh míle maith agat.

I will give it a try and see how I get on.

Tá fáilte romhat!
(You are very welcome!)

Hi Hervé, I have been reading the posts on this thread and would really like the latest copy of the translation files. I might also be able to contribute to the completion and any extensions that I will use on the site.
Thanks,
Hannes

Hervé,
The translation files are working great for me. Who knows where my site would be wthout the Irish language pack.
In a couple of weeks I hope to have the site I'm working on Public. I'll post a link when I'm done so you can see. Thanks a million again.
June.

hlf wrote:Hi Hervé, I have been reading the posts on this thread and would really like the latest copy of the translation files. I might also be able to contribute to the completion and any extensions that I will use on the site.
Thanks,
Hannes

Hi Hannes,
You should have a PM with the files now.
Thank you for your offer to contribute. What kind of help may you provide? Can I ask you if you are a native speaker, or if you are fluent in Irish? The team would really appreciate your help, some extensions are on the way already.

The text to translate comes in form of spreadsheet, which is convenient to filter, edit, copy and paste on a larger sheet. It is then process to generate the system's files. We would like to have a more convenient and user friendly tool, with a collaborative work feature, but it seems that there is no such system or web application known from the Joomla community at the moment. Still, working with a spreadsheet is efficient enough.

Esthalon wrote:Hervé,
The translation files are working great for me. Who knows where my site would be wthout the Irish language pack.
In a couple of weeks I hope to have the site I'm working on Public. I'll post a link when I'm done so you can see. Thanks a million again.
June.

Hi June,
I am delighted to read that you are happy with the files, and about the progress with your website! All the team is probably happy too, always a pleasure to see a community alive! Please share the link when it is done. And maybe submit it to the Joomla Showcase
http://community.joomla.org/showcase/

You are welcome (Tá fáilte romhat!)

hartford10 wrote:This is really a very nice and useful information for me. I was looking for it from a long time and I am interested in that. I would like to join as early as possible. It would be beneficial to both you and me.

Hi hartford10,
You are welcome to join! Can you tell us a bit more about how you can help the team?
BTW, the languages files were sent by PM.

Hi Hervé,
Thanks for the files, I tried them out and all is working great. I am not a native speaker but there are people involved in the site that would be and are willing to translate some files.
Currently Community Builder, kunena and DTRegister are the main components the site will use. Community Builder does not use Joomfish for translation but has its own language files so we will be translating them also.
If you send on your spreadsheet we can have a look at it and find out what the guys can translate.

Regarding the CB language files, they are PHP files not INI and use the format below.
DEFINE('_UE_WELCOME_DESC','Welcome to the user section of our site.');
Would your spreadsheet be able to generate output like that to make it easy for non technical people to translate.

Thanks,
Hannes

hlf wrote:Hi Hervé,
Thanks for the files, I tried them out and all is working great. I am not a native speaker but there are people involved in the site that would be and are willing to translate some files.
Currently Community Builder, kunena and DTRegister are the main components the site will use. Community Builder does not use Joomfish for translation but has its own language files so we will be translating them also.
If you send on your spreadsheet we can have a look at it and find out what the guys can translate.

Regarding the CB language files, they are PHP files not INI and use the format below.
DEFINE('_UE_WELCOME_DESC','Welcome to the user section of our site.');
Would your spreadsheet be able to generate output like that to make it easy for non technical people to translate.

Hi Hannes,
Thank you for your feedback. And thank the people who are willing to translate a part for us. The core Joomla files are on the process to be translated, so there is no need to duplicate work at the moment. Anyway I send you the spreadsheet so they can have a look. Then it is all about using formulas, with Free Software like OpenOffice.org.

Regarding the 3 extensions you mentioned, I am not aware of anyone working on an Irish translation for them at the moment or in the past. So that will be great to add them. And I think it is better to have the language files translated and share them with the community, rather than using JoomFish. I really like JFish, but more to manage the content translation.

Finally, the Community Builder language files format was the one used by Joomla in 1.0. We can handle it through a spreadsheet, and generate the right format back. John did a great work with this up to now. Will it be suitable for you and the people involved in your website?

Hi all,
Someone may help us with some missing translation for Joomla.
There is no translation for the short word for 2 months, Sep and Oct in Irish:

Aug: Lún
August: Lúnasa
Sep: xxx
September: Meán Fómhair
Oct: xxx
October: Deireadh Fómhair
Nov: Anois
November: Mí na Samhna

Any idea?

rvbgnu wrote:There is no translation for the short word for 2 months, Sep and Oct in Irish:
Sep: xxx
September: Meán Fómhair
Oct: xxx
October: Deireadh Fómhair

A suggestion is Sep=MF and Oct=DF.
I add this to the files.

Dear all,

Thanks to Andrew and Liam, I have updated the language files with some strings translated. For those who requested and received the links, they are the same. For files consistency, the last updated files will stay in the same first location, so the links I used in many emails or PM before are still good.

The changes are:
- Admin: ga-IE_users.ini (NOTICE=Fógra)
- Admin: ga-IE.ini (SEPTEMBER_SHORT=MF, OCTOBER_SHORT=DF)
- Language: ga-IE_com_contact.ini (MOBILE=Uibhir Fón Póca)
- Language: ga-IE_com_search.ini (SEARCH_RESULT=Torthaí)
- Language: ga-IE.ini (SEPTEMBER_SHORT=MF, OCTOBER_SHORT=DF, NOTICE=Fógra)

Enjoy!

Dia Dhúit Gach Duine!

I was actually in the process of manually using the "old" Joomla 1.0 and copy/paste to an existing GB lang pack for 1.5 when I came across this thread.

Is it possible to get a hold of the 1.5 Translation Pack "As Gaeilge"? My Irish is middling but am willing to help out if I can - My brother has to do a site for college and I know a bit about Joomla - except it needs to be bilingual...

Any help greatly apreciated

Mise Le Meas

Stiof

Tá fáilte romhat a stiof!

You are welcome to join the translation team! In the meantime, you will find basic help on this forum.
To set up, go here http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?p ... 1#p2194791

You have the files in reply to your message as well.

Go Raibh Maith agat arís Hervé.
I hope to help where I can.
Slán!

Hi,

I have updated the language packages: add in install.xml header method="upgrade" to allow language upgrade, or an error will occur if language already installed. And the files structure has been check as well.
Sorry for those who had trouble to update there language (well, nobody reports a trouble yet

Then, again, if you have the files links from a PM or email, they are still working, with the new files at the same location.

On the full translation front, it seems that things have stalled, unfortunately. There is more delay to complete projects with this famous recession period for almost everybody, anyway.

Call for volunteers:
We have a number of extensions who will love to be translated. If you able to help, please contact the team in this forum or PM/Email me (see buttons below).
For the few people who offered there help already with JEvents, could you contact me about progress?

Esthalon wrote:Hervé,
The translation files are working great for me. Who knows where my site would be wthout the Irish language pack.
In a couple of weeks I hope to have the site I'm working on Public. I'll post a link when I'm done so you can see. Thanks a million again.
June.

Hervé,

I just wanted to say thanks a million again. My site is now live and I tired to post a link as I promised above so you could see, but apparently that counts as self promotion (even though it's a school site that I'm doing for free) so my post was deleted.

But the translations rocked, I wouldn't have been able to do it without them and if you ever need someone to test any new releases or anything just give me a shout.

June.
June

Esthalon wrote:Hervé,

I just wanted to say thanks a million again. My site is now live and I tired to post a link as I promised above so you could see, but apparently that counts as self promotion (even though it's a school site that I'm doing for free) so my post was deleted.

But the translations rocked, I wouldn't have been able to do it without them and if you ever need someone to test any new releases or anything just give me a shout.

June

June,
We are glad to read that. And it is a pleasure and rewarding to have a sincere "thank you" like yours. Unfortunately this is not happening every time for a volunteer work

You should post again your school website URL. Forum moderation is not an easy and grateful task, but it is needed to keep the discussions clean and pleasant to follow. I am sure that if you just post your http address in clear (no html code or hidden link) stating that it was made with the help of the Irish language files provided here from the Team, it should not be a problem. Or I missed a forum rule, maybe.

Anyway, good luck with the website, and fair play to you for doing this volunteer job. Schools definitely need some help on the IT side, and we, parents, are better doing it ourselves!

We will contact you for future versions, for sure.

Thanks again Hervé, here goes:-

A bilingual school web site created thanks to the help of the Irish translation files www.gaelscoilroseo.com

I am not selling/advertising anything and neither is the site, I'm just trying to say thanks and show what the translation files helped me to do!

p.s. I am waiting on new graphics for the site.

Thanks June, the website looks good to me. It is a well done "home-made" one.
And I LOVE the bilingual idea with gaeilge. It is sometimes a lot of work, but it worth it. Fair play to you!

Let us know when you have new graphics. And what about submiting your website to the Joomla Community Showcase?
http://community.joomla.org/showcase/

All the Best,

Dia dhaoibh gach duine anseo!

Conas táin sibh?

Hervé, I was wondering if I could also get the latest copy of the translation files. I will be using Joomla version 1.5.22-2. I am developing a site for a new Gaelic football team called "Na Gaeil Óga" that has started up in Dublin 'as Gaeilge'!

Níos mó eolais fúinn anseo, má tá suim agaibh ann!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic- ... 94326.html

I would greatly appreciate your help, go raibh míle maith agaibh!

Thanks,
Breandán

Hervé, Go raibh míle míle maith agat as sin a sheoladh!

I will set that up and let you know how it goes. Also, I hope I can help you with the translations too. You're doing a great job, keep it up! Maith thú!

Beir bua,
Breandán

breandanose wrote:Dia dhaoibh gach duine anseo!

Conas táin sibh?

Hervé, I was wondering if I could also get the latest copy of the translation files. I will be using Joomla version 1.5.22-2. I am developing a site for a new Gaelic football team called "Na Gaeil Óga" that has started up in Dublin 'as Gaeilge'!

Níos mó eolais fúinn anseo, má tá suim agaibh ann!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic- ... 94326.html

I would greatly appreciate your help, go raibh míle maith agaibh!

Thanks,
Breandán

Dia's Muire dhuit a Brendán!

Tá fáilte romhat!
You should have the files with the PM I just sent.

We are looking again for volunteers to help with the translation... More news to come!

Good luck with the website you are building. And please share it with us once it is completed, or if you need help. Well done about the Dublin GAA club!
Ádh mór,

breandanose wrote:Hervé, Go raibh míle míle maith agat as sin a sheoladh!

I will set that up and let you know how it goes. Also, I hope I can help you with the translations too. You're doing a great job, keep it up! Maith thú!

Beir bua,
Breandán

(our replies crossed..)
Go raibh míle maith agat! ... on behalf of the team, because I am not doing any translation (well, not yet, still learning...), I am just not too bad with Joomla

Thank you about helping the with the translation. We will get back to you.

Slán go fóill,

Fair play dhuit, a Hervé! Thanks a million!
Beimid i dteangmháil lena chéile arís!

Slán go fóill!

Hi, I've just registered for the Joomla forums- am working on an Irish/English site for a local sports club as well - I can't PM as I'm a brand new user- could someone PM me the latest version? I might be able to contribute some aspects, we'll see

Hi,
I've just sent you the links to the files.
Good luck with the website you are building. And please share it with us once it is completed.

Would it be possiblle to send me the Joomla 1.5 Irish language pack as well? Thanks in advanvce!

- Chris

monochromec wrote:Would it be possiblle to send me the Joomla 1.5 Irish language pack as well? Thanks in advanvce!

- Chris

Hi Chris,
Tá fáilte romhat!
You should have the files with the PM I just sent.

We are looking for volunteers and native speakers to help with the translation.

Good luck with the website you are building. And please share it with us once it is completed, or if you need help.