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Just downloaded mambo 4.5.3 and mamblefish 1.5 ... no other choice

There are people around the forum who have Mambelfish running with no problem on Joomla, but I have personally never used Mambelfish yet.

I hope so!
It is a big feature i need too!

XD

Hello to all who need a multilingual site and can't wait on Joom!Fish ...

I went with my website from Mambo 4.5.2 to Joomla 1.0, to Joomla 1.0.3, to Joomla 1.0.4 and now to Joomla 1.0.5. I have used since the beginning the Mambelfish Version 1.5 and had no problems so far, except the minor changes which have to be made to 1 core file of Joomla, and 1 component file of Mambelfish. There are some issues mentioned in some of the threads here in the forum, but to be honest, most problems encountered are not problems of Joomla and the Mambelfish.

Have a look, it works fine. http://www.mytestground.com/

Alex ...

P.S. Thanks to all the great developers, producing a really awesome software with Joomla and all it's components. Keep up with the good work, and take your time with what you do.

Hello all.

As Alex told Mambelfish works good with joomla: http://www.goplanet.ws
The only thing that doesn't work is the ability to edit content in frontend but I don't really need this...

I have one question (when will joomfish be released ?  ): will it be possible to publish/display an item only if his language is the current session language? For example in the main page of goplanet I want to display the wise thoughts only in english if the session is in english (... and only in french if the active session is in french).

Thanks
Thomas

Are you sure?
My authors do it.. maybe is a matter of the editor.

Editing Content in the frontend is no problem at all. Whatever language you choose in the frontend, that language you are editing in the content.

Two examples (my website has english and french) :

• Create a content in backend without any translation. In frontend when you try to edit this content while connected in english there is no error message but the content is never updated. Same problem in french. The problem is that a new mambelfish line is created but not published.
• Create a content in frontend while connected in english. Try to edit in english -> never updated. The problem is that the content is firstly created in #__content and when you try to edit the content a new entry is created but not published in #__mbf_content

I think there is a confusion between original content and translations not being automatically published. Even if the attribute published of #__mbf_content is defined as default value = true my contents are not automatically published. I have to go manually in backend and publish the new entry... 

My installation :

• Joomla 1.0.5
• http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,26271.0.html

What about my question :
[quote=∓quot;frblondin"\]I have one question (when will joomfish be released ?  laugh ): will it be possible to publish/display an item only if his language is the current session language? For example in the main page of goplanet I want to display the wise thoughts only in english if the session is in english (... and only in french if the active session is in french).[/quote]

I changed at line #1069 of administrator/components/com_mambelfish/mambelfish.class.php:

to


What I don't like : 3 entries (one in #__content and two in #__mbf_content) including one obsolete information never displayed (the one in #__content). As english is my default language (set in global joomla configuration) why is the english entry never created in #__mbf_content but modified in #__content. Hope this will change in joomfish 

Hi Alex,

I went on your test site, it's very good. (I tried to make a registartion but problably is just a test site (I'm waiting moderator approval))

I tried also to find a guide on how to install MambelFish 1.5 with joomla 1.0.5 but I haven't found.
Please, is there a guide/instructions on how to do it ?

I also noted on test site you installed CB 1.0 RC2 and VirtueMart 1.0.1 stable.
Have you found any problem on login form ? 
Is it only one login for the the two components ?

Many Thanks   

Hi doctorlife

OK, let me get you a small rundown on the installation. There are actually only a few steps necessary you have to follow.

(1) Install a Joomla 1.0.5 or use the update from 1.0.4 to 1.0.5. Important is that you do not use any language/country specific Joomla version you can find on all kind of websites. Please uses the original English version you get at Joomla.org, or use the download from my website. http://www.mytestground.com/cms/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=1&lang=en
(2) Very important is that you install the two patches you will find for Joomla 1.0.5, because they fix some bugs found in it. The first one is the Frontpage ID patch you find here in the forum, or on my website, and the second one is the SEF patch you will find around this forum here, or on my website. Also, if you are intending to use the Community Builder 1.0 RC2, you will have to get you a Joomla 1.0.4 includes/database.php file and replace the one in your Joomla 1.0.5 installation. http://www.mytestground.com/cms/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=6&lang=en
(3) Then you just download the Mambelfish 1.5. Just get it from my website, it is a Pack with the component, the module, and the searchbot. Just unpack it and install the component (disregard any error messages), install the module, install the searchbot(don't forget to activate it). http://www.mytestground.com/cms/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=1&lang=en
(4) After that, you download the Joomla 1.0.5 Mambelfish 1.5 Patched Files, unpack the ZIP and use the files included to replace the ones in your installation. It saves you the time to manually patch the files like described in the PDF in the Mambelfish Pack. http://www.mytestground.com/cms/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=6&lang=en
(5) Now you can install any additional language, but be sure that they are the new language files which are necessary since Joomla 1.0.4. Further you have to make sure that you activate the languages in the Mambelfish configuration. Important is that you set the ISO Key (en = English, de = German, nl = Dutch, etc) right.
(6) Now you should publish the Mambelfish Module, so that you can switch between languages in the frontend. I would always leave the site language set on the original installation language (English) to avoid problems in the beginning. But there should be actually no problems if you use a fresh clean installation without any content.

Now to the issue of VirtueMart and the Communitybuilder.

You should first of all, after you installed you Joomla and Mambelfish, install the Community Builder and get it up and running. The only issue I know is the one which can be fixed by replacing the Joomla 1.0.5 database.php file with the Joomla 1.0.4 database.php file. The setup of the languages is actually real easy because the Community Builder has a Plugin Manager and you can install the language you need as easy as you install the languages in Joomla. You also need to use the Login Module of the Community Builder and unpublish the one from Joomla. http://www.mytestground.com/cms/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=4&lang=en

VirtueMart is also not a problem. You can just install it, install the modules you want and of course the searchbot. In the Pack on my website, you also will find a language pack with a lot of common languages in it. Unfortunately you will have to copy the needed language file manually into the VirtueMart, there is no installation tool for it. But there is a language component for VirtueMart, which allows you then to edit the language files through the backend.http://www.mytestground.com/cms/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=select&id=2&lang=en

Further, you only have to use the one login module for everything. The VirtueMart needs of course a little more information about the user, but it will requested the information once the user makes some purchase.

I hope I did not miss anything here, but if, please feel free to fuss at me so I can correct it ...

This is were I was waiting for. THNX !!

...mumble mumble... I'm tring, taking notes and I'll let you know ...

I hope in few ours 

Hi alexhokamp,

in first again my compliments for your very good work ! 
I think this work have to be posted into the joomlafish project as first release waiting the new joomfish on joomla 1.1, so I'll put in evidence this topic to the moderator 

Installation all is going very good, it seem work fine, the only thing I forgot to post is that I even used Mambelfish  so I'm looking around for a guide to understand well how it works and if all is right ...

Now I'm trying components integration and want ask you to read here
http://www.joomlapolis.com/index.php?op ... =3107#3107
It seem there is yet the database.php correction instead replace the old 1.0.4
Please take a look and confirm me 

PS be carefull the joomlaboard release is the 1.1.1 stable, not the 1.1.0 

Hi doctorlife

I took a look. my suggestion stays. if you want to use the CB 1.0 RC2, replace the includes/database.php file of your Joomla 1.0.5 installation with the one from Joomla 1.0.4. it works fine for me and I had no problems so far.

also checked the Joomlaboard release. thanks for pointing it out to me. 

Hi again Alexhokamp,

about VirtueMart: on developer site I found this file I add (is too light). I'm looking, I think is to manage language file.
Have you seen it yet ?
have you tried ?

Hey folks,

ok we are getting to it slowly but surely.

The 1.1 will come out as a alpha2 in the near future. This is a step into the right direction as the libs changed a lot and a lot of stuff has been done refatoring the whole core.

Based on this alpha I'll work on the integration of the Fish.

The project has already setup a first structure on the forge and I'm preparing the first SVN commit. As the whole structure is a bit complex I was looking into a suitable SVN structure which allows easy testing and developing.

About the suggestions, enhancements and new ideas.

Please do me and Geraint the faivore to add them to the tracker at the forge. It's best to keep all such ideas, patches and new ideas in one place.

Cheers and regards

Alex

So, Alexhokamp

Alex answer us to my invite...
It seem your suggestions work fine, what I suggest is to add it into the developer site as first step to run joomla 1.0.5 with old mambelfish 1.5,
So people can post, toghether with us, all bugs and/or suggestions there and will be a good roadmap for Alex to finish the new joomfish,

Are you agree ? 

PS Will be possible upgrade a Joomla 1.0.x + Mambelfish 1.5  -TO-  Joomla 1.1 + Joomfish ? 

K I'm going to add a suitable section for the download files. As far as I know there shall be no patches specially for the fish needed for 1.0.5 exept the database layer bot.

I'm gonna release this bot during the week. The bot will be part of the fish distribution in future and replaces basically the changes in the index.php.


About the updates:
There will be a manual path, but I think we will not be able to provide an automated one.

Why? Basically because of the UTF-8 integration.

The fish will not change it's tables to techniques quite a lot. I'm planing to grap one suggestion from the past to make the comparisimns based on a md5 string instead of the full string, but this can be an automated config option.
Other than that we are not planing to change anything on the table structure.

But with the move to UTF-8 you might need to convert all your content to a proper UTF-8 complaint table set. This might need manual work or uploads. I'm not 100% sure about this yet but that's what I expect.

Alex

@doctorlife

Yes, I think that might be a good Idea. But I do not think it should be limited to the MambelFish, but to Joomla and Multilanguage Support in general, because as far as I could figure out, Joom!Fish is going to be a core component of Joomla in the future, maybe already in Joomla 1.1. Since I do not know the timeframe of the Joomla 1.1 release and rather wait a little longer to get a new version which works and don't need to be patched from the beginning on, I probably will write a little tutorial how to make Joomla work as a multilanguage setup. You just get going and start everything, and I am going to give you the materials ...

@akede

Thank you for an answer. We are starving  to get infos from you. On a personal note, please take your time with the Joom!Fish, because I rather have it right then done in a hurry. Your MambelFish will hold the ground until Joomla 1.1 will be released.

whats joomfish ?

K I'm going to add a suitable section for the download files. As far as I know there shall be no patches specially for the fish needed for 1.0.5 exept the database layer bot.

I've created a new discussion board for MambelFish & Joomla! 1.0.x releases. You might want to put your summary over there as well.

http://developer.joomla.org/sf/discussi ... omla_1_0_x

Please also see the HowTo written by Geraint:
http://developer.joomla.org/sf/docman/d ... ot.howto_s



I'm gonna release this bot during the week. The bot will be part of the fish distribution in future and replaces basically the changes in the index.php.


About the updates:
There will be a manual path, but I think we will not be able to provide an automated one.

Why? Basically because of the UTF-8 integration.

The fish will not change it's tables to techniques quite a lot. I'm planing to grap one suggestion from the past to make the comparisimns based on a md5 string instead of the full string, but this can be an automated config option.
Other than that we are not planing to change anything on the table structure.

But with the move to UTF-8 you might need to convert all your content to a proper UTF-8 complaint table set. This might need manual work or uploads. I'm not 100% sure about this yet but that's what I expect.

Alex

The multi lingual component for Joomla!

check out: http://developer.joomla.org/sf/sfmain/d ... s.joomfish

for more details.

oooh... pretty cool thingy!! Thanks!!

I write a very bad English, but I'm agree on all, in special because this old "fixed" release will help Alex on have indications for new release and to don't spend so much time following / answering to all the requests on multilanguage component are posted every day !

Hello everyboy, i'm kinda new in joomla, i installed joomla 1.0.5 and mambel fish (thanks to alexhokamp in this post, very good manual).
Now, i have english and spanish languages working fine with mambel fish, but i'd like to know if i can use mambel fish to translate the menus (main menu, user menu, etc...).
When i go to components -->Mambel Fish --> Translation, it shows a list of "content elements for which i want to check the translations". What is this for? Why is this list empty in my site?
Please, at least a litle help or tell me where to find info about it...

First of all you will have to select the labguage you want to translate into ....



Then you will have to select the items you want to translate ...

But, in my site (like in your example) there's no items shown....
And what about the menus?
can they be translated?
i want the menus to change when i change the language, like in your page....

Select the language and after you selected the language in LANGUAGE, select the things you want to translate in CONTENT ELEMENTS. When you select CONTENT ELEMENTS, you will have a list where you can choose what you want to translate like the menus for example.

ooh ok i get it....
i was so stupid , sorry , my bad,
it's so simple and i just didn't see it. .
Thanks for your help and congratulations for your work....