forge slowness

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

Hi Folks;

Just to give everyone a heads up:

In order to synchronize the cvs repositories on the scm portion of forge, I'm currently running a synchronize permissions on the box. If you experience any slowness or any unusual events, please put them in here. Once Sync perms are done running I will update this thread.

Please include in your reports:

Project Name and URL that you are trying to access
Time of access attempt
What you were doing (logging in, editing a tracker, etc)
If you were logged in or logged out
Your Joomla Forge username

Thanks so much!

ianw

brian · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:44 pm

Thanks for the update I thought it was my connection.

I'm currently getting timeouts accessing http://forge.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/listR ... eekly_news

Problems since 22:22 GMT

Anonymous access

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

Hi Brian;

Thanks for the notification:

I just tried to download it, and when using fasterfox, it only took about 2.547 seconds to load the page. Try again, and let me know if you're still having issues.

Ian

brian · **Posted:** Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:08 am

Thanks for checking. seems ok now. Last nght I couldnt even get to the page

Troll · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:36 pm **Posts:** 65

Been looking at "Waiting for forge.joomla.org" now for about 10 minutes

When is this "farse" with the forge going to be solved!!!

Have been like this for many weeks now!!!!

Tonie · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 am **Posts:** 13245

Mod note: Troll, it would be nice if you wouldn't post the same reply in all messages regarding Forge.

Troll · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:36 pm **Posts:** 65

Not the same message!

Here I say it's slow again!

In the other one, I followed up to ask if there was any plans on mirroring the forge, as that was mentioned in the other thread, and NOT here!

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

Hi Troll;

I was able to get to forge.joomla.org in under 10 seconds using my wireless card, so I'm unable to replicate your issue.

What project (or artifact/document/file release) were you trying to view or edit?

What Time?

Were you able to get the sourceforge mast or Title in your browser window?

We are looking to get all of the loose threads and issues resolved, so any additional information that you can provide will help me in debugging the issue.

Thanks!

Ian

Troll · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:36 pm **Posts:** 65

Yesterday, about 5-10 min before my post I was trying to get this URL:

http://forge.joomla.org/sf/tracker/do/l ... acker.bugs

It took +10 minutes before the page loaded, I think I got a page title after a while, but blank page.

This is on a Mac running FireFox.

After a few minutes waiting, I opened a connection to forge.joomla.org on a XP box using IE7, this also took +10 minutes before anything was loading on the page.

I have 8MB ADSL connection, have server in US and the forge is the only web page/side I have had any problems with the last couple of months.
Yes, the forge have been more or less unusable for me the last couple of months.
I'm not there everyday, but every time the last months when I'm looking for an update or something new, I get extremely frustrated about how slow the forge is!!

Today it took only a couple of minutes to load

But I did not need anything from the forge today

ot2sen · **Posted:** Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:47 pm

Troll wrote:

Yesterday, about 5-10 min before my post I was trying to get this URL:
http://forge.joomla.org/sf/tracker/do/l ... acker.bugs

Just checked, and site from above link showed up in 4 seconds. Not bad

Troll · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:36 pm **Posts:** 65

Tried same link as above, and this http://forge.joomla.org/sf/sfmain/do/home for almost 30 minutes now, nothing!!!

Even the forum and main page loads slow today!

This is very frustrating and extremely bad publicity for Joomla when people can't download anything, not even connect to the forge!!

Edit: While waiting for this post to show, I tried using a proxy in Boston to connect to the forge, no luck with that either.

brian · **Posted:** Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:06 pm

Experiencing the same thing from here at 16:05 gmt accessing http://forge.joomla.org/integration/vie ... m=exsy1002

Tonie · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 am **Posts:** 13245

The forum downtime and the Forge are two seperate things. The forum went down because somehow the SMF tables are locking themselves, this crashes Mysql in the end. This affects the forum and the extensions site, as these are both on the same physical server. Brad did receive a patch for SMF this, which seemed to help.... until today that is. We are working on this. Don't expect a permanent solution today or tomorrow, we don't want to bandaid things without actually solving the cause.

brian · **Posted:** Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:15 pm

at 18:15 GMT I can now access the URL listed above. Hope the info helps in some way in diagnosis

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

I'm sitting in the Midwest, and I'm setting a load time of 7.531 seconds from my house to the Forge.

ian

brian · **Posted:** Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:31 pm

As I said Ian it was not working earlier but was again later.Maybe there is something in the logs. I appreciate that intermittant errors can be difficult to resolve. Just trying to give you as much info as possible to help

aravot · **Posted:** Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:49 pm

It's been a month don't know why this hasn't been fixed

brian · **Posted:** Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:27 pm

At 21:26 GMT I am getting server taking too long to respond attempting to access
http://forge.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/listR ... eekly_news

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

Yup. There's something going on. I'm having issues SSHing to the box. I'll forward this on to next level.

Ian

brian · **Posted:** Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:18 pm

few. beginning to think it was some voodoo affecting me.

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

Hi Brian;

Go ahead and try now ... logging in and displaying "My Settings" took a little less than 4 seconds to load a few moments ago.

Ian

brian · **Posted:** Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:53 am

Worked ok at 08:50 GMT. Hope it stays that way

Troll · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:36 pm **Posts:** 65

Sadly this is what I get now >:(

[size=100]The connection has timed out

The server at forge.joomla.org is taking too long to respond.[/size]

Here is traceroute, so you can see that there is not much wrong with the network, but something seriously wrong with the server or the software used for the forge:

Code:

traceroute to forge.joomla.org (66.35.250.233), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1)  1.042 ms  0.472 ms  0.391 ms
 2  ti211110a340-l1.ti.telenor.net (88.88.152.0)  7.837 ms  25.863 ms  8.303 ms
 3  ti0021d320-ge0-1-5-10.ti.telenor.net (146.172.91.125)  8.742 ms  7.835 ms  8.272 ms
 4  * * *
 5  ti0001b300-ge0-0-0.ti.telenor.net (146.172.105.2)  18.551 ms *  9.705 ms
 6  aer1-ge-2-6.newyork.savvis.net (204.70.151.21)  110.705 ms  112.467 ms  107.417 ms
 7  bcs2-ge-4-3-1.newyork.savvis.net (204.70.193.45)  107.720 ms  114.347 ms  107.377 ms
 8  dcr1-so-1-0-0.chicago.savvis.net (204.70.192.109)  133.848 ms  140.305 ms  134.017 ms
 9  dcr2-so-2-0-0.denver.savvis.net (204.70.192.133)  188.750 ms  163.982 ms  164.595 ms
10  dcr1-so-2-0-0.sanfranciscosfo.savvis.net (204.70.192.114)  192.910 ms  192.373 ms  191.440 ms
11  dcr2-so-5-0-0.sanfranciscosfo.savvis.net (204.70.192.150)  191.367 ms  190.775 ms  191.726 ms
12  bhr1-pos-0-0.santaclarasc8.savvis.net (208.172.156.198)  193.012 ms  193.077 ms  192.888 ms
13  csr1-ve240.santaclarasc8.savvis.net (66.35.194.34)  462.235 ms  192.843 ms  192.918 ms
14  66.35.212.174 (66.35.212.174)  194.541 ms  192.804 ms  192.921 ms
15  developer.joomla.org (66.35.250.233)  193.137 ms !<10>  193.317 ms !<10>  194.023 ms !<10>

Just tried developer.joomla.org, same result. Not loading!!

Troll · **Joined:** Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:36 pm **Posts:** 65

Still no luck to get the forge to load

Are there no one who are in charge of the forge, someone that can contact the host or something. Just want to solve this problem that have been going on way to long now!!!!!!!!!!
Some one who can access log files, to check if everything is OK with the server, load on server, if there is something physical wrong with the server?
Is this a shared server?

I'm also wondering if there is a censorship regarding this topic also?

I received a e-mail alert with this message about 30 min after my previous post.
When I a few minutes after receiving this mail, I come back to here to find no new post????

Here is the message:

Quote:

View the reply at: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php?topic ... icseen#new

Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php?actio ... c=144246.0

The text of the reply is shown below:

same again from here now.This really is getting quite daft. there is clearly a problem either with the server or with sfee. Looks tome as if they cant handle the traffic and memory resources are getting used up.

More replies may be posted, but you won't receive any more notifications until you read the topic.

Regards,
The Joomla! Community Forum Team.

Landho · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:10 pm **Posts:** 4

i'm getting timeouts, too.

brian · **Posted:** Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:58 pm

No troll it wsnt censorship I deleted my own post as the forge came up just as I clicked post. However at 18:55 GMT i'm getting timeouts again. Its really frustrating

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

Troll;

The forge is hosted on two dedicated servers at our hosting facility in the SF area.

As much as I appreciate your troubleshooting, there are many different variables in play here. To not bore everyone, I'll only touch on the most important:

In the JVM, there are only about 200 threads available. You can think of this analogy like a bus that only has 125 seats available. Once everything's filled up, you're either going to have to stand up and wait for a seat to become available, or wait for the next bus to come around the corner. To add a little more insight, there are only 256 threads available by default in the Apache web server.
As more people hit the forge, there is more load on the server. (the bus goes slower). Eventually, enough people have their requests filled, and the bus will speed up and get back 'on schedule' again.

While I understand that this is frustrating for everyone, there is only so much that we can do from an application management standpoint -- we can add more threads, however, without additional memory, that would allow more people to access the forge, but everyone's access times would be horrible, as there would not be enough memory to serve everything from memory, and a lot of swapping would occur. Likewise, we can remove some threads, and the forge would be faster, but, we'd introduce more issues (network speed, cpu load, jvm constraints).

The best that I can do is reassure everyone that I am aware of the situation, and that I am actively monitoring it. It would be rather unfair for me to just restart the application server every time the load gets high, as that would interrupt what those 100+ people are currently doing, and then there would be more load as they tried to reconnect.

Ian

brian · **Posted:** Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:06 pm

Well its not available again at 17:00GMT

IMHO this is really beginning to effect Joomla. everyday there are new users unable to download joomla. New releases cant be made. And judging the joomla 1.5 changelog it is effecting development there as well. There have been less commits (at least half) this week than at any tie in the last 8 weeks.

My 2c

Kroy · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:36 pm **Posts:** 3

I came to Joomla for the first time tonight. I was keen to try it, having seen it working elsewhere. Through no fault of my own, I have only tonight to implement a standard CMS on my server. Too bad there's no mirror, try Kent University, they mirror lots of stuff, and on JANET too...

ianw · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:34 pm **Posts:** 21

If you're looking to download the core Joomla! application try:

http://forge.joomla.org/static/

That contains the core Joomla Application, and shouldn't be affected by the Joomla Forge Load, and should be available if the forge is down.

Ian

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