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The languages I had proposed are mostly used within India
Some like bengali in bangladesh
tamil also in some parts of sri lanka
punjabi in some parts of pakistan

So we could have board for Indian Languages
One per language could be overkill



I propose Infograf / Vish as moderator
If all of us become moderators it could be tough

Coordinators can be per language

eg -
Vish - Hindi
Sen - Tamil
Romil - ?
Me - Marathi & Gujarati

Other languages can be taken up as and when there is a demand

Once Hindi is setup will try and get NASSCOM, CDAC or NCST to assist on a per state basis
Once their ppl are on board they could co-ordinate specific languages

Just my two bits, all comments are welcome

Nice to see the thread ticking! 

Well, I think its time that we started work on Hindi and Tamil languages and get a dedicated section on forum. But, before it grows I advice that we make a fix on naming protocol of sub-forums i.e the Project names.

The reason I think, Indian Sub-Continent Languages would be fine is that, most of these languages are spoken in India as well as neighborhood countries. Additionally, this broad forum could encompass Bengali as a sub-forum with Indians and Bangladeshis working in tandem (in future maybe same follows with Urdu, Tamil, Punjabi etc.). Also, for multi-lingual folks like me (everybody here knows more than 2 languages though) it would be easier to switch between projects.

Further, this name is kinda mutual and globally acceptable to depict our (Ind, Pak, Srl and Ban) geo-political postion, therefore, I hope the name would be acceptable to all.

In a nutshell, what I'm trying to put is something like this:

Indian Sub-Continent Languages
|
----- [ Hindi ]
|
----- [ Bengali ]
|
----- [ Tamil ]
|
----- [ Urdu ]

All just suggestions, please give it a thought.



Me for Hindi :)
Will contact alamgir99 for Bengali later.

I also propose Vish as Moderator, I have so much learn here first.

My 2 cents:

I can' be moderator in this forum. Too many tasks for me. Sorry.

If Vish accepts your proposal, then it is fine.

Concerning the Bengali, they already have their own forum.

If you believe that the Translation Issues are similar and they agree on this, we may regroup the sub-forums under the header proposed by ~Romil.
Alamgir99 could be moderator with Vish of all the sub-forums placed under that header. We would add subs in function of the languages worked on.

This would make it easier for all of you to go from one to the other.
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Concerning translation for 1.1 (ex-mambo 453):

This is different from the forum matter.
One coordinator has to be chosen per language.
Vish is already Hindi coordinator for the moment.
Then Partner sites have to be chosen. As the help database is linked through key references, you need one separate database per language, thus the useful feature of sub-domains if you choose one main domain only.
The Bengali have not gone through the procedure yet.
We are revising the Translation Charter and Policy. When this is done, the Coordinators and Partner site(s) Admin(s) will have to agree formally to it. Then they will be invited in the Private translation Forum where all the representants of the translation teams (Coordinators and admins) have access.
It is there that we discuss and feedback on language files/packs.

And there, I am moderator..

I think that we should have one forum with name something like "Indian Sub-Continet" or something like that and can have sub forums like Hindi, Begali, Tamil and so on. We all can moderate all these sub forums. So I can moderate Tamil if I am available at a time or Romil can Moderate Hindi if he has Time and so on. That way we can make sure that the tasks get done.

I donno how Alamgir and others feel about this...

I will buzz him...

Sounds good Vish, since there are only so many of us.

I think we should let bengali be, they are doing pretty good as it is,
and since our aim is only to allow ppl to use this it doesnt make a diff what we call it

Romil - your site isnt working [first one in sig]

Inforgraf : would like to be co-ordinator for Marathi and later Gujarati

regarding partner sites - joomlaindia.org is there with vish, nice name, subdomains can be used per language

Vish, Sen : JUST FOUND THIS : http://www.ildc.in/

Also, I own http:/www.ceetee.org - this is to become a NGO portal, sub domains are available for use if required.

I am not able to find 1.1. I was able to find 1.0b on$amboforge....any pointers?

Hi
1. Before I can express on the proposed forum and subforum, can you please tell the objectives and aims of those? Everyone is ready to be a moderator not a translator. We need translator and real people to work. Unless there is some work, you wont have anything to moderate.

2. Knowing a language is not that easy as Romel is saying. People of India mostly speak 3/4 languages doesnt mean they know them. I speak English and live in a English country dont give the comfort of saying I know English language. I know Bangla very well, it's my mother tounge. I understand some HIndi doesnt mean I know Hindi.

3. Please note: "Indian Languages", "Indian Subcontinental Languages" etc,  are often source of uneasiness. "Indic Language" is the neutral term to use. Please beware of politics and nationalism.

4. Though generally said, translation doesnt take place to a language, it takes place to a "locale". That's why we have so many English locales (UK, US, Australia, SA, and even India now). My belief is that Bengali in Bangladesh has different form than that in West Bengal. Few of my friends and I are working on trnaslating to Bengali (BD) and dont wish to be merged with a greater forum or go under any umbrella at this point.

5. At this moment, we need more work than management.

thanks

alamgir

Alamgir, your points are well taken. Rest lies on how other members think about it.

Personally, I would not like to go into elongated discussions about nationalism and parameter of term "knowing a language." I know its a sensitive issue, specially with us neighbours.

But, yeah, we do need more work than work management for now. I'm all geared up for any nature of work related to Hindi and coordinate with Vish.

PS: @mediawizard: My homepage and blogs under renovation a bit. ETA: This weekend.

I couldnt agree more with alamgir on 1.2.3.4.5.
More translations, less talk.

I have access three translators [non-techie] who can work 1-2 hrs / day - 3/4 days a week on the translation.
Language I could help with - Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati. In fact we could do them at the same time.

Vish, b4 anything else lets confirm the font, see the link in my post above.
Cant see font on the demo page - can send you the screenshot

Another thing we need to decide is whether we use conversational or grammatically correct language?

I am working on getting the Hindi Partner Site. http://www.joomlaindia.org/dev




Can you please send me the screenshot?
What font do you use? I have Microsoft IME installed that I believe Mangal font and I think thats what I used.

What font do the government agencies use in India?

Well, about conversational/grammatical, I was more inclined towards conversational as I have seen the more
grammatical ones and they do not please me....but hey we are doing this together and you know more about
what ppl want in India than I do. So, tell me what you think?

As you can see I got the subscription for jamboworks.com and currently using the template from their site.
Once the logo and slogan for joomla is done, I will do one for Joomla India....

But I think right now it is important that we agree on the font and get to show it up on your machine....
Have you seen http://www.akshargram.com and http://akshargram.com/sarvagya/index.php/Main_page ? They have good documentation on how to get hindi to show up
on your browser...

Hello All,

I am very interested in starting Punjabi translation of Joomla. I can bring as many other people on board as needed for the Punjabi language, and may be even to find some for hindi,bengali etc. Please point me in the direction of any tools, documentation, and of course the actual files i need to get started. If I need to start a "partner site" I am willing to do that as well, but didn't want to do that if you are going the route of subdomain.

Thank You

Welcome aboard gursikh....

I will be setting up a projects page by end of today and then we can divvy up the projects as you may feel....
In the mean time you might want to start doing something about translating the strings to Punjabi...

I think we could close the forum discussion now.

I propose to let the Bengali Forum where it is.

Let's create an Indic Languages forum where this post will be moved.

Lets Vish be Moderator there (if you agree, Vish; this is a job not related to organisation of translation).

When you get organised and need some specific place to discuss Hindi, or any other Indic language, we will create the sub-forums as needed.

This way you may get organised in a full forum and not in a thread alone.

Feedback please?

I concur and accept to be the moderator.

HI all
Once again.

@ Romel:  I have replied to your PM and said you what to do to begin translation into HIndi. Please read them, if you need anything else let me know. Moreover, If you feel, you alone can do a translation, please proceed. Mambo does have multiple groups for one language.

@ Vish : Font issues are very minor. You'd realise that once you start the translation. I havent used IME cos I have found it suitable for Chinese/Japanese etc. I have my own (i mean written by me) Keyboard mapping software.

regards

alamgir99

Look what we have here: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,162.0.html

Cool, should I post here or there? or will you move this thread to the new indic language forum?

You may use the new forum now to post.

When all are aware, I will move this thread there.

Good luck in your new house!

Oh yeah, I've visited this site before. They were distributing Indian language SW CDs for free. That's pretty neat.

Hi Sen, yeah, the CDs are all in one kit for Hindi, Tamil and Malyalam (recently launched), quite useful.

If anybody outside India needs the ISO, I will upload them.

Is the kannada version available? I require this to host my website in kannada.

Thanks in advance
Deepak

Nope. Kannad Language is not yet available.

Hi everyone!!

Its good to see that you guys have done something in this direction. It will be wonderful for websites relating to the entire nation, if we could develop joomla in all official languages of India. India being an emerging market I am sure you will get very good support from all corners.

I will only be happy to see if someone had developed the Malayalam Language support, this in particular since we have recently implemented joomla for our Vienna Malayalee Association website http://www.vma.nri.at and soon we will be publishing http://www.nri.at a web portal for non resident indians. For NRI's if they could read the contents in their own language it will be a great blessing for them.

I am not a computer professional so I may not be of much help in that way. However may be I can spread the word among other who might also be interested so that we have enough support for all Indian Language and the Malayalam Language in particular.

Cheers!

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Hey mediawizard,
It would be a nice job.A project contains many indian languages would be amazing.I am also doing such task.As I'll get information about it I will reply with that as early as possible.

Dear all,

I am interested in Oriya Language, Please guide me how to start up?

My motto is anyone can write with respective language vie TinyMCE editor or any editor.

Waiting your Guidance as well as Positive response.

Thanks,
-Amaresh
http://www.eodissa.com