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Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:58 pm
by mediawizard
Hi all,

Finally, a dedicated forum for indic languages.

1. We need to sort out the font that will be used.

2. We need to sort out keyboard setup [i have access to a devnagri one, but most wont]

3. We need to allot work / person - Vish, take a call pls

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:43 pm
by Vish
mediawizard wrote:
1. We need to sort out the font that will be used.
I use the font that comes with Microsoft IME (Mangal). To be honest I am not sure how font selection would affect this translation that it needs that much attention?May be I am missing something. I agree with alamgirs post somewhere that font is not a big issue.

I believe any font that is utf-8 encoded should be fine. So, fonts like susha, surekh, agra are out of question. I know Mangal is utf-8 encoded so want to propose this font.
mediawizard wrote:
2. We need to sort out keyboard setup [i have access to a devnagri one, but most wont]
I will recommend that we all use Microsoft IME if you do not have any other favourites. Again, I think this should not be an issue at the entire translation level. You might have some preference which is fine.
mediawizard wrote: 3. We need to allot work / person - Vish, take a call pls
I am planning to setup online project management thingy soon. I will keep you all updated on that...

Keep it going...

@mediawizard: Do you have any graphic designers available?I would like some work to be done to the new Joomla! logo to give it some "Desi" touch....I believe we will get psd of the final logo that we can use. We will also get some "Official Partner Logo" I blelieve.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:45 pm
by mediawizard
1.
I suggested this so that we can all get on the same page. Mangal is fine with me.
Ditto for the keyboard.
Could you pls post the link here, ms site has only a few far eastern ones listed for XP.

2.
I am myself a designer, what did you have in mind in terms of 'desi'?
Here everything is desi ;)

How abt making the logo the flame of a diya? Diwali is coming up too, we could always change it...

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:51 pm
by Vish
Desi is a term used in USA a lot for South Asian Flare....So India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and so on comes under Desi umbrella.

Diya is a good thought but I would like it to be religion/nation independent or any specific culture independent. It should be for all. All should be able to relate to it and not able to isolate from it.

I was thinking in terms of colors/style...but may be I am asking too much....

You did not say anything about the font and others points?

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:54 pm
by mediawizard
style : would not like to deviate from whatever the final logo looks like
joomla brand equity is relevant

colors : no probs, whatever u like

want me to make one and post?

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:01 pm
by Vish
Well, lets wait for the final version of the logo. You never know what they gonna change...

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:24 pm
by mediawizard
lol, too true, hope u saw my edit abt font / keybrd above

could u pls post a link to install MS IME on XP Pro?

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:51 pm
by Vish
Here you go. The following link will give you the link to the download and steps to configure it....

http://www.akshargram.com/sarvagya/index.php/IndicIME

I also refer to http://www.akshargram.com/sarvagya/index.php/Main_page wiki alot. They have a good docs on how tos and stuff for hindi.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:46 am
by gursikh
I Propose SAAB font for Punjabi as it is UTF-8 , Unicode 4.0 compliant and best font for Punjabi AND Gurmukhi display on screen and in Print.

Wondering if you guys saw my post: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,7764.0.html

I Second the Idea of the Logo being religion and nation independent.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:25 am
by mediawizard
A diya or a small lamp is as indic as it gets. No religion or nation can claim sole use, in fact evey religion and nation would probably identify with it.

Gursikh - the golden temple is surrounded by little diyas during festivities too.

If you have any other ideas, let them hang out.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:39 pm
by gursikh
I was just saying it should be independent, I'm completely down with some sort of "artsy" diya flame logo, I'm no artist but I'll see if I can't pull something together.

I might be offline very soon for a while seeing how this Hurricane Rita is coming right at me.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:26 pm
by mediawizard
Vish,

Now that the logo is final would be happy to do a joomla! diya logo.

Am downloading the files as i type

Re: Font selection

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:37 pm
by Vish
gr8.
I am waiting to see the results....

Re: Font selection

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:39 am
by mediawizard
Am attaching two mockups

if you like the general drift can take this further

however, this is subject to approval viz the brand manual just released.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:22 pm
by Vish
Wow

I really like both of them...

Re: Font selection

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:38 pm
by mediawizard
lol, can make a lot more, had thought of using the joomla logo in a rangoli but that is not permitted by brand manual

Re: Font selection

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:56 am
by ~Romil
The 1st oneĀ  :D

Re: Font selection

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:12 am
by Vish
I will need to check with the Joomla Team before we choose a logo for Joomla India.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:54 pm
by mediawizard
Any update from the joomla team?

Would like to wrap this up asap

Re: Font selection

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:48 pm
by Vish
Well, infograf did not approve of any of two logos...

The following is not met in the logo

Quote from Guide:
"Never combine the symbol with any other text or logo. For use as an graphic element or imagery, it must stand alone.
Never use the symbol, as a graphic element or imagery, alone on any communication materials without the full Joomla! logo used in the same context."

I have seen other language partner sites and they just add something after the joomla logo, may be thats what we need to do.

Re: Font selection

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:01 am
by mediawizard
Hmm, then the diya idea is out.

Could u post some language partner sites urls here?

thx

edit : why not use either of the diya's w/o the joomla logo integrated for Joomla India?