CoreSEF Hack for Joomla 1.0.4

Predator · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:12 pm

CoreSEF Hack for Joomla 1.0.3

As discussed in this thread: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,427.0.html i'm pleased to announce the Release of an Core Hack to give you extended SEF URLS without using a component for it.

The Hack also supports the sef_ext.php files for SEF Advance.

Demo: http://www.joomladeveloping.org/

Beware this is a Corehack and not an official Core Addon.

Just overwrite the files in your Joomla 1.0.3 installation with the files contained in the zip folder, go to your Global Configuration and change the needed values. This only works if the "normal" Coresef" has worked before.

nadoop · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:15 pm

ok....i'm very sorry about that. i did not read your previous post correctly...

Predator · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:30 pm

nadoop wrote:

ok....i'm very sorry about that. i did not read your previous post correctly...

No prob just download the new Version and check if it works for you.

Due to the bookmark component i guess i have a sef_ext.php file and will check this if it works correctly, if you also have long URL's for this component.

nadoop · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:51 pm

ok, it still doesn't work...

but it doesn't work for the blog category either..

i have a link entitled :

"click here for more news briefs". and when i clcik on it to take me to 'more news briefs', i see this ilnk:

http://www.xyz.com/blogcategory/.htm

after minutes of loading, i see this in the adderss bar:

http://www.xyz.com/blogcategory/$mosConfig_live_site

maybe i didn't configure it correctly?

Predator · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:48 pm

Quote:

http://www.xyz.com/blogcategory/$mosConfig_live_site

maybe i didn't configure it correctly?

Enter in the config your Website URL.

Quote:

i have a link entitled :

"click here for more news briefs". and when i clcik on it to take me to 'more news briefs', i see this ilnk:

http://www.xyz.com/blogcategory/.htm

Hmm works for me on my site and also local. Do you use the Long url setting?

nadoop · **Posted:** Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:37 am

you mean the 'lenght of urls' option? if so, it doesn't work either way. if it's working for everybody else, then the problem is on my end. however i can't seem to figure out what it is...

guess i'll have to go with 404sef. i heard 404 has been discontinued? is this true? if so, is there a link where the author stated this directly? xaneon is giving me a bunch of errors, and 404 is the only one that seems to do the trick. and i refuse to pay for a commercial script, so sefadvance is out of the picture...

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

Tjeerz Preditor for this hack. i am (still) running 4.5.2 mambo (wil swith to Joomla in enar future) and altough the hack gives the main content beautifull URL's the hack is not compatible yet wih Simpleboard. I am a bit confused by the debate in this thread. There seem to be different issues discussed at the same time. Is there already a (mambo 4.5.2 compatible) sollution for the siimpleboard forum posted or are you still woking on it?

kenmcd · **Posted:** Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:02 am

soodejuu wrote:

Tjeerz Preditor for this hack. i am (still) running 4.5.2 mambo (wil swith to Joomla in enar future) and altough the hack gives the main content beautifull URL's the hack is not compatible yet wih Simpleboard. I am a bit confused by the debate in this thread. There seem to be different issues discussed at the same time. Is there already a (mambo 4.5.2 compatible) sollution for the siimpleboard forum posted or are you still woking on it?

Huh?
Why on earth would there be "backwards compatible" to Mambo solution for Simpleboard/CoreSEF?
Move forward.
Convert to a bug-fixed version of Joomla and then start discussing Joomlaboard.
There are many changes to improve and fix Joomla, many affect SEF.
Either go backwards to Mambo, or move forward to new Joomla solutions.

Why would any software move backwards to support older versions while trying to move forward with improved functionality?
Upgrade to Joomla, and then request support for new functions.

Predator · **Posted:** Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:02 am

No i have only work on a Jomla! solution and the probs belongs more to the Joomla! Version of simpleboard now know as Joomlaboard. The new version works now well with Joomlaboard.

kenmcd · **Posted:** Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:04 am

Sorry, Marko replied 28 seconds later.

Upgrade, then discuss problems.

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

Tjeerzz, We will upgrade to Joomla today.
Keep up the good work!

rjavegaw · **Joined:** Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:37 pm **Posts:** 12

nadoop wrote:

after minutes of loading, i see this in the address bar:

http://localhost/blogcategory/$mosConfig_live_site

Hello,
i like the hack - i also get the "$mosConfig_live_site" effect..
i did a debug session and found that in my constellation the query in line 551 tries to find the Title in content,
but my link is a category blog, so it finds $id=null an this results in the wrong url.
Which is also not correct.. and here we have the "big loop" the Apache Log does..
127.0.0.1 - - [07/Nov/2005:23:30:28 +0100] "GET /procomportal/menu/Unser_Unternehmen.dhtml HTTP/1.1" 301 -
127.0.0.1 - - [07/Nov/2005:23:30:28 +0100] "GET /procomportal/menu/$mosConfig_live_site HTTP/1.1" 301 -
127.0.0.1 - - [07/Nov/2005:23:30:28 +0100] "GET /procomportal/menu/$mosConfig_live_site HTTP/1.1" 301 -
127.0.0.1 - - [07/Nov/2005:23:30:28 +0100] "GET /procomportal/menu/$mosConfig_live_site HTTP/1.1" 301 -
127.0.0.1 - - [07/Nov/2005:23:30:28 +0100] "GET /procomportal/menu/$mosConfig_live_site HTTP/1.1" 301 - ....
140x for my part until it timeouts.. (this ist the long time)

greeting Roberto

See also in the attachment

kenmcd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:07 pm

CoreSEF now on JoomlaForge.

CoreSEF project
http://developer.joomla.org/sf/projects/coresef

CoreSEF File Releases
http://developer.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/v ... oresef/frs

CoreSEF Bug Tracker
http://developer.joomla.org/sf/tracker/ ... ef/tracker

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

We upgraded to joomla 1.0.3 but the links above, we registred, do not seem to work. Whats up?

kenmcd · **Posted:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:54 pm

soodejuu wrote:

We upgraded to joomla 1.0.3 but the links above, we registred, do not seem to work. Whats up?

Should be fixed now.
Fixed the permissions to make the files, tracker, and forum public.

When the project was created the defaults were set to "private" - weird.

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

Tjeerzzz,

There are seem to be some problems though. Mainly but not only with articles with long titles

http://eurodusnie.nl/Geen_Paniek/Geen_P ... luche.html
give a
http://eurodusnie.nl/Geen_Paniek/Geen_P ... _live_site

with shorter titels no problem.

Secondly, although in the backend at "Remove Characters:" it says §,$,%,£,@,?,#,&,(,),+,*,!,;,:
At least the "!" aa title like " Volgende halte: Praag?! " ends up looking like http://eurodusnie.nl/Dusnieuws_archief/ ... html 
with .../$mosConfig_live_site as a result.

Any suggestions on how to fix this would be highly apreciated

DeanMarshall · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:42 am

Hi,

programmers technobabble ahead - non programmers feel free to ignore this post :laugh:

I have to say that coming from a Perl(ish) background I find PHP quite fussy with variable interpolation. It doesn't always work as you expect within quoted strings - I end up playing safe and concatenating quoted strings to variables. The exact behaviour seems to vary between specific 'point versions' of PHP too. Quite quirky really.

Dean.

gamesport · **Joined:** Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:39 am **Posts:** 156

a quick general question on this SEF

do y'all think that "-" is more search engine friendly than "_" ?, or does it matter at all?

even though they dont use joomla., this is the site i had in mind http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1049/The-Matrix-Path-of-Neo/p1/

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

Oeps! "daar heb ik geen kaas van gege" should not hav been there.

Predator · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:17 am

Belongs this to SEF Advance or the CoreSEF Hack?

DeanMarshall · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:27 am

gamesport wrote:

a quick general question on this SEF

do y'all think that "-" is more search engine friendly than "_" ?, or does it matter at all?

even though they dont use joomla., this is the site i had in mind http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1049/The-Matrix-Path-of-Neo/p1/

Hi Gamesport,

This is one of those hot topics in SEO. Regular expressions see a hyphen as a word boundary and underscores as a 'standard' word character. This causes some people to believe that search engines don't see the underscore as a true 'separator' between words. Other people, probably correctly, believe that just because the programming language doesn't see the underscore as a 'boundary' doesn't mean that the programming team behind the search engines can't work around this behaviour.

As you can see opinion is divided. Personally, I take the view that there is no need to take the risk, use hyphens and be sure that the Search Engines can see separate words. Your mileage may vary.

Dean.

gamesport · **Joined:** Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:39 am **Posts:** 156

Quote:

Hi Gamesport,

This is one of those hot topics in SEO. Regular expressions see a hyphen as a word boundary and underscores as a 'standard' word character. This causes some people to believe that search engines don't see the underscore as a true 'separator' between words. Other people, probably correctly, believe that just because the programming language doesn't see the underscore as a 'boundary' doesn't mean that the programming team behind the search engines can't work around this behaviour.

As you can see opinion is divided. Personally, I take the view that there is no need to take the risk, use hyphens and be sure that the Search Engines can see separate words. Your mileage may vary.

Dean.

Hey thanks for the lesson, i really appreciate your response on that, thanks again

soodejuu · **Joined:** Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:54 am **Posts:** 16

Quote:

Belongs this to SEF Advance or the CoreSEF Hack?

This belongs to the CoreSEF hack of Joomla 1.0.3

henryshen · **Joined:** Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:37 pm **Posts:** 8

I tried it with MOD

G-translate, but it does not work.

CoreSEF itself is a very nice hack, I really hope it will compatible to work with all other mods.

thank you

Ken McDonald and Marko Schmuck!

TWDesigns · **Joined:** Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:11 pm **Posts:** 191

I didn't see a answer to this, but that doesn't mean it's not out there.

I am running Mosets and this hack works great with it! I do run in to one problem and I'm not sure how to get around it.

I have 8 templates made and assigned to 8 different Categories in Mosets. The templates assigned are identified by Itemid,# (i think that's how it works)

CoreSEF kills that tag which makes all the assigned templates default back to the main (global default) template when you view any of the categories. Is there any way around this?

(doesn't have to be mosets, happens to anything with a template assigned)

Thanks!

rjavegaw · **Joined:** Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:37 pm **Posts:** 12

rjavegaw wrote:

http://localhost/blogcategory/$mosConfig_live_site

Hello,
i found the Difference! My Installation uses a basepath e.g. http://www.abc.de/myPortal/index.php
This is a constellation where the CorsefHack gets "confused".

so only use the installation in the root Dir.

greeting Roberto

(Or use the hack for the Hack

insert into Line 198 after the $url_array = explode("/", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']); the following line..
$url_array = array_slice ($url_array, 1); //Remove basepath (deaktivate this for rootinstallation
)

kenmcd · **Posted:** Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:41 pm

henryshen wrote:

I tried it with MOD

G-translate, but it does not work.

CoreSEF itself is a very nice hack, I really hope it will compatible to work with all other mods.

This is not a limitation of CoreSEF (or OpenSEF, or Advanced SEF Bot, etc).

ALL advanced SEF components can only create advanced SEF URLs for a 3PD component if there is a sef_ext.php file which has been made specifically for that particular 3PD component.
No sef_ext.php file - no advanced SEF URLs.
The sef_ext.php file is usually created by the developer of the 3PD component. (or some interested user)

Example sef_ext.php files are in the Developer forum on the OpenSEF web site forum.

Predator · **Posted:** Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:31 am

rjavegaw wrote:

http://localhost/blogcategory/$mosConfig_live_site

Hello,
i found the Difference! My Installation uses a basepath e.g. http://www.abc.de/myPortal/index.php
This is a constellation where the CorsefHack gets "confused".

so only use the installation in the root Dir.

greeting Roberto

(Or use the hack for the Hack

insert into Line 198 after the $url_array = explode("/", $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']); the following line..
$url_array = array_slice ($url_array, 1); //Remove basepath (deaktivate this for rootinstallation
)

Ah thanks for this, yes e.g. http://www.abc.de/myPortal/index.php confused the hack, have tested it

so will add your hack to the hack

Yipppie · **Joined:** Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:45 am **Posts:** 45

I have been using this hack and must say that its great

I am having problems with all blogs though, blog frontpage isnt working, blog section and category are also not working.

It seems to have a problem with pagination.

Anyone can help with this issue?

Many thanks

Yipppie

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