Pirated Templates

[magellan_software]

I have seen a lot of site samples in Site Showcase sub-forum and I noticed that there are many templates which are considered commercial. I just wonder are the templates really coming from the commercial sites itself or pirated sites. I already reported some sites and these are being taken care of the commercial sites itself. To report sites using pirated template you may use the CONTACT link of that commercial site and please include the link.

Examples:

1. http://www.templateplazza.com --> click the CONTACT US button and report the site who are using pirated template
2. http://eshop.webrevolution.org --> click the CONTA US button and report the site who are using pirated template
    Samples of webrevolution --> http://eshop.webrevolution.org/index.ph ... ory_id=172
3. http://www.joomlart.com --> read this
4. http://www.rockettheme.com --> use this link.
Other commercial sites, use the same format. You can also report commercial extensions with their respective owner.

[hacksider]

Just a word of advice, you can not say its a pirate if you really are just assuming. First of all, rockettheme offers developers membership, that means you can use any templates to any website you create. So just basically it. Before I report magellan, just be sure you know what you're doing. Anyway, goodluck!

[magellan_software]

Actually thats the main reason why web developers signed as a member to a commercial template/extension site. To use a commercial templates/extensions to their customers. So there's no problem on that. Commercial sites are doing their counter measures for checking of these sites. So if lets say I reported one site that is using a pirated template then I am assuming that commercial site has a database of those domain who are using their templates. So what if I am wrong then I am wrong. Web developers should not bother about pirated stuff as long as they're using legal (not pirated) commercial templates/extensions. 

[hacksider]

Ok dude, goodluck!

[magellan_software]

So I am assuming here that you also using RT Templates to your customers. But viewing your two updated sites it seems its the other way around. Not unless you are also a member of TemplatePlazza and you bought Magnificus separately.

http://www.pointpinas.com/ --- FunkyNews NewsPortal of TemplatePlazza
--> http://www.templateplazza.com/content/view/83/33/

http://www. [removed] .com/ --- WebRevolution of Magnificus
--> http://eshop.webrevolution.org/index.ph ... ct_id=1640

[hacksider]

yes, check my membership there!

[migs]

u can submit sites that i created to those template clubs for verification purposes. u must be keen in the different templates released by these vendors and i look at with admiration  :-* that u r very concerned about piracy. well thats great. but in some other ways (i think  ) pirated templates and extensions can be a means of underground commercialization. that is u download these templates or extensions and then u study them on how they are function or being programmed and when u done these things and hopefully u can get a customer then that's the time u already have an idea on what templates and extensions (including commercials) r u going to used or recommend. if these are commercial templates or extensions then that's the time u'l buy these items and put it into production or live site.

on the other hand, i dont recommend posting of illegal sites in this forum 

[hacksider]

Same here! 

[jedi.knight]

Actually thats the main reason why web developers signed as a member to a commercial template/extension site. To use a commercial templates/extensions to their customers. So there's no problem on that. Commercial sites are doing their counter measures for checking of these sites. So if lets say I reported one site that is using a pirated template then I am assuming that commercial site has a database of those domain who are using their templates. So what if I am wrong then I am wrong. Web developers should not bother about pirated stuff as long as they're using legal (not pirated) commercial templates/extensions. 

pre namirata ka din dati... kahit noong ikay naguumpisa pa lang mag program pinirata mo na ang mga programs sa book na reference mo....... di ba?

[Jdam]

hahaha welcome sa community Mr. magellan_software... nice name by the way spanish dating ah pirate ba
yan? kalaban ni lapu lapu.....JOKE! heheheh  peace tayo! anyway pre.... I wonder why, parang
mala edu ang dating mo? may nakadali ba syo? hinay hinay lang ... as a developer lahat naman ay nagdadaan
sa process ng imitation sa umpisa pero it doesn't mean na pirate na yun! as long as na pag check ng CSS or ng logic
ng script lahat lahat eh same sa mga commercial yun ang pirata na talaga......so I suggest sa lahat ng may
balak mag report sa kinauukulan paki double check muna po ng flow ng logic class, id of css and flow ng div sa xhtml...
kasi mahirap na baka mapahiya lang po tayo!



cheers 


-Jd

[Jdam]

mukhang meron 2 dito mainit lol  ... wag ganyan mga ka joomla noypi.... kun alam
natin na ang kapwa pinoy natin eh may prob wag nmn natin ipahiya sa pamamagitan ng pag post
ng mga url nya....bawal banatan dito! kakainin ko kayo ng buhay! joke..... pre @hacksider
ayusin nyo ni Mr. Magellan ang prob nya... kasi baka lumaki pa yan lol, wag na kayo mag kape, tubig na binabaran ng medyas na lang
heheheh.

peace!!

So I am assuming here that you also using RT Templates to your customers. But viewing your two updated sites it seems its the other way around. Not unless you are also a member of TemplatePlazza and you bought Magnificus separately.

http://www.pointpinas.com/ --- FunkyNews NewsPortal of TemplatePlazza
--> http://www.templateplazza.com/content/view/83/33/

http://www. [removed] .com/ --- WebRevolution of Magnificus
--> http://eshop.webrevolution.org/index.ph ... ct_id=1640

[hacksider]

Lol, siya naman nagrereklamo, acutallu ive told him to check my membership there (and also the membership of my customers). No comment lang sa kanya, hahahaha 

[shen brood]

Bring down the cost of software and let software manufacturers agree to open source editing and customization of their code by their users.  Maraming namimirata kasi mahal ang mga software in this case sa Templates.

Masama ba talagang mamirata?  Siguro nga masama para sa mga gumagawa nito at sa mga may pera.. paano sa mga wala?  Peace po

[jedi.knight]

pre meron kang punto dyan.......... dapat isipin natin na ang JOOMLA ay isang bukas na pinagmulan (open source) at ito ay LIBRE, FREE, NADA, ZERO, ZIP.... hehehe kung ano ano ng ilagay nyo dyan basta tawagin na nating syang LIBRE..... tapos gagawa sila ng commercial template ibang usapin na po yan.... e bakit nde na lang sila gumawa ng sarili nilang CMS na commercial version. hayaan na nilang ang libre ay para sa libre at ung maybayad e sa maybayad.... kaya MABUHAY KA JOOMLA!!!! saludo kami sa iyo.......

[shen brood]

Naalala ko tuloy nung committee hearing sa Congress nung sa Free and Open Source Bill sa Congress tutol na tutol yung mga commercial software manufaturers sabi nila unfair trade daw pero ang totoo nun baka mabawasan sila ng kita sa open source.

[joealley]

Oi! Sino ba ang mga pirata dito.    Peace lang tayo mga kababayan ko.  Gaya ng pinost ni jedi.knight na ang joomla ay opensource (aka Libre etc...) at yung iba ay kumita mula sa libre sa kanila na yon.  Di na lang sana natin pinost pa ang mga url ng ating mga kapatid.  

[hacksider]

Ewan kay magellan, he's getting paranoid from open source eh. Is he a programmer from microsoft!? 

[Jdam]

hahahaha si magellan dapat mapanuod nya ang "pirates of the silicon valley" ng malaman nya kong sino
ang totoo pirata. Kindly ask Mr. Gates

[hacksider]

Hahahaha! I remember the last part, nag away si bill at steve. Kasi pumasok si bill sa apple to get the source of mac os. Sabi pa nga nya "I want it! I will steal it!" Then yung sa gitna naman they just bought DOS from a programmer and sell it to IBM.

[jedi.knight]

bro ito ang magpapatunay dyan http://www.[youtube].com/watch?v=JPL_NjBjUWE
paki delete na lang po kung nde po bagay dito ito.........

[magellan_software]

Lol, siya naman nagrereklamo, acutallu ive told him to check my membership there (and also the membership of my customers). No comment lang sa kanya, hahahaha 

If you're a member of Template Plazza then what is your username being used as your membership? A simple question, just one word from you 

[magellan_software]

Bring down the cost of software and let software manufacturers agree to open source editing and customization of their code by their users.  Maraming namimirata kasi mahal ang mga software in this case sa Templates.

Masama ba talagang mamirata?  Siguro nga masama para sa mga gumagawa nito at sa mga may pera.. paano sa mga wala?  Peace po

If you are member of any Template Clubs, you'll know more of this. One year membership is very cheap as compared to other commercial CMS selling commercial Templates.

[magellan_software]

Ewan kay magellan, he's getting paranoid from open source eh. Is he a programmer from microsoft!? 

I am not a paranoid of open source. And I am not a programmer of Microsoft. My point is you should respect those who are selling commercial software especially if you are getting some profit from that pirated templates.

[ultimoAdios]

Ewan kay magellan, he's getting paranoid from open source eh. Is he a programmer from microsoft!? 

I am not a paranoid of open source. And I am not a programmer of Microsoft. My point is you should respect those who are selling commercial software especially if you are getting some profit from that pirated templates.

Are you schooled in a license that says "you are not allowed to do the following;
copy except for backup,
reverse engineer is prohibited and liable under the whatever piracy law that is.
can't distribute (hey! I got it!) except pay per license.
our codes are original,
you can't read them,
but believe us they are unique,
we develop them ourselves without copying the others.
(we used k instead of v) the result is just the same.
We named it Z -- cool ha?
But my point is...
what part of the Template Commercial Agreement  that the pinoy joomla users have disrespected?
Can you please give us a screen shot of that agreement so we can compare it to the GNU-GPL.

One more I am not sure if this will help
Are those commercialized templates followed the Joomla! GNU-GPL License?
on whose power bestowed upon those commercialized templates licensing agreement that we have to follow instead of GNU-GPL?
Because you said so?
Are we swimming in the same water?
Do you believe in GNU-GPL?
if you don't then you don't belong here.
Find somewhere else-- go and develop a real proprietary software without bowing down to the GNU-GPL and from that day on, you can go and just start accusing everyone about pirated templates. That word for your information is taboo in the land of GNU-GPL.

Choice of name magellan_software. Cool!
But welcome to our world.
Our history.
Magellan is part of our Pinoy history.
I could pretend I forgot about it but as I said...part of our History.
Everybody knows about Magellan.
Here is the story.
That was the early of 1521, magellan the explorer "kuno" with his crew came to our Island. To make the story short. The battle began! Our forefathers massacred and killed the new arrivals and beheaded Magellan. Hey, it was war time you know.
Lapu-Lapu the barbarian with his bands of savages claimed the responsibility of that great battle. you can order a copy of this movie from our stores.

Lesson:
Next time? If you want to do a business, please use an appropriate nick. Yap, I know it was lame. What is in the nick. But hey, you are associated with the name you are using. Ikaw si Magellan_Software kami naman ang maisog, matapang, palaban, matawag sang mga ambungan uyamot -- gabahag nga mga LapuLapu, may Kris ang pikas kamot og uzzziii sa pikas.

[zen_walker]

Sorry to butt-in.

I'm just a new member here and I'm trying to join the Joomla Filipino translation team.

I'm not a Joomla user (yet) but a GNU/Linux enthusiast.

I've been to several open source forum and this is my first time to see a posting on anti-piracy,  a very unusual on a forum like this.

As I've mentioned above, I'm newbie regarding Joomla but I assumed Joomla templates are plain text/ASCII files. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

My questions is, under what license Joomla templates are published?

Joomla is license under GPL. It is not a good idea to piggyback a closed source or proprietary software on top of a GPL'ed software.

In open source world, the business model is that you sell services NOT source code.

[Jdam]

hahaha OT break muna. lol.... nagkahimagsikan na! lusob mga opensource enthusiast! hahaha joke lang!
pinapangalawahan ko ang sabi ni ka-joomla @ultimoAdios.

One more I am not sure if this will help
Are those commercialized templates followed the Joomla! GNU-GPL License?
on whose power bestowed upon those commercialized templates licensing agreement that we have to follow instead of GNU-GPL?
Because you said so?
Are we swimming in the same water?
Do you believe in GNU-GPL?
if you don't then you don't belong here.
Find somewhere else-- go and develop a real proprietary software without bowing down to the GNU-GPL and from that day on, you can go and just start accusing everyone about pirated templates. That word for your information is taboo in the land of GNU-GPL.

Choice of name magellan_software. Cool!
But welcome to our world.
Our history.
Magellan is part of our Pinoy history.
I could pretend I forgot about it but as I said...part of our History.
Everybody knows about Magellan.
Here is the story.
That was the early of 1521, magellan the explorer "kuno" with his crew came to our Island. To make the story short. The battle began! Our forefathers massacred and killed the new arrivals and beheaded Magellan. Hey, it was war time you know.
Lapu-Lapu the barbarian with his bands of savages claimed the responsibility of that great battle. you can order a copy of this movie from our stores.

Lesson:
Next time? If you want to do a business, please use an appropriate nick. Yap, I know it was lame. What is in the nick. But hey, you are associated with the name you are using. Ikaw si Magellan_Software kami naman ang maisog, matapang, palaban, matawag sang mga ambungan uyamot -- gabahag nga mga LapuLapu, may Kris ang pikas kamot og uzzziii sa pikas.

you don't belong to Joomla! CMS Mr. Magellan!  :P
peace tayo pre! pero thats the reality!

-Jd

[garyamort]

I have seen a lot of site samples in Site Showcase sub-forum and I noticed that there are many templates which are considered commercial. I just wonder are the templates really coming from the commercial sites itself or pirated sites.

It is an interesting point, but there is no way to really tell.

I know that both RocketTheme and TemplatePlazza don't really have any mechanism to register which site your using their templates on.

[hacksider]

Pagpasensyahan nyo na paranoid, he didnt even know that even clients can buy templates and let other programmers or web developers do their job for them.

[magellan_software]

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[Jdam]

stop spamming post Mr. Magellan!