Avoid competition by putting extension in unrelated category

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:05 pm

So, I watch the JED RSS feed for extensions to see new things, and I noticed something odd after clicking on an extension.

This particular extension is one that competes with many (6 or so) existing extensions with the same functionality - however, it was placed in a different category than it's competition. In this unrelated category - it stands alone.

I attempted to use the "Report Extension" feature of the JED to suggest that it be placed with other like extensions. I received a thank you message to my ticket, yet the extension is still miscategorized.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the condensed categories in the new JED. Allowing extensions to jump to unrelated categories further weakens the category system and cuts out competition. Contrary to the tone of my topic subject, I'm against this kind of shenanigan.

Am I just being silly to think this is a problem?

itoctopus · Post by **itoctopus** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:36 pm

I don't know which extension you're talking about but I'm pretty sure that the JED team checks the category that an extension wishes to be listed in - if it doesn't match, then it'll be placed in a different category.

Of course, these are assumptions and I don't know if it's possible to change the category after the extension is approved.

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:28 pm

Aimy No Generator belongs with the other generator meta tag removal extensions - instead it's in site security, where it is the only generator meta tag removal extension.

brian · Post by **brian** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:32 pm

Sometimes it can take a few days for an issue to get acted upon

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:35 am

Well, it was reported January 22nd and closed 9 days later with an almost coherent reply "Thanks for letting u know." I suppose 17 days qualifies as a few...

itoctopus · Post by **itoctopus** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:08 am

One would think that there is much more extensions (and much more competition) under site's security than under meta generator category.

Having said that, hiding the generator meta tags has something to do with security, maybe not a lot but still, so my opinion that this is not a serious issue and whoever created this extension is not really spamming the JED.

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:25 am

Not saying it's spamming necessarily or that it was done intentionally, but miscategorization is an easy way to avoid the competition. When a correction is suggested, the ticket is closed and nearly a month later it remains miscategorized.

seaJoom · Post by **seaJoom** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:36 am

Hi

I understand the sentiment and good intention of OP but I must say I put my money on itoctopus' statement that editors do review everything before publishing (think when the add editor note!).

I have seen cases that made me think MAYBE this extension COULD be in another category BUT in this case I believe this extension is in right place. Removing generator tag got nothing with other "generator" extensions, this would make detection of site powered by joomla harder. This would prevent a lot of automatic hack bots!

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:29 pm

To make detection harder - just like the other 5 generator extensions. It isn't unique in its function. In a way - it does less than some (one) of the others.

ByeByeGenerator - changes or removes the tag in HTML, RSS feed, and Atom feed
Set Generator Tag - changes the generator tag in HTML
JomLand Mega Generator - changes the generator tag in HTML
MetaTag4Net - changes the generator tag in HTML
Generator Meta Tag for Joomla - changes the generator tag in HTML

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:20 pm

It just seems to me that putting related extensions in unrelated categories:
1. makes navigation in the JED more difficult. Are you in the right category, should you keep looking?
2. presents users with solutions that may not be the best reviewed. A lone extension in the wrong category tells users that there is only one extension where there are actually many more (in this case there are 6).

chrisguk · Post by **chrisguk** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:59 pm

Sorry I had to comment on Brian's comment, "Sometimes it can take a few days for an issue to get acted upon".

One of my extensions has been in the wrong category ever since the new JED - 9 weeks now. I have raised a ticket and a JED bug tracker issue. No reply from any member of the team.

A few days?

imarklee · Post by **imarklee** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:13 pm

chrisguk wrote:Sorry I had to comment on Brian's comment, "Sometimes it can take a few days for an issue to get acted upon".

One of my extensions has been in the wrong category ever since the new JED - 9 weeks now. I have raised a ticket and a JED bug tracker issue. No reply from any member of the team.

A few days?

Hey,

What is the ticket # and which category did you submit your ticket into?

chrisguk · Post by **chrisguk** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:28 pm

Going by the URL of the ticket (http://extensions.joomla.org/profile/ti ... tails/1249) the ticket number might be 1249. Category is "Current Listing Support". The original ticket was 213 raised on the 19th of December so I have now been waiting patiently for almost ten weeks.

imarklee · Post by **imarklee** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:13 pm

Hm, I see. Looks like the category is no longer on the new JED but I'll send an email to Paul and see if he has any ideas on this.

Tessa Mero · Post by **Tessa Mero** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:20 pm

Thanks Mark for taking care of this. :-)

stutteringp0et · Post by **stutteringp0et** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:12 pm

More than a year later and Aimy No Generator is still miscategorized.

sozzled · Post by **sozzled** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:29 pm

stutteringp0et wrote:More than a year later and Aimy No Generator is still miscategorized.

I had a similar situation when I accidentally submitted an extension in the wrong category some time ago. I created a job ticket and, eventually (took about three weeks), the JED team responded and moved the extension into the correct category. There are unfortunate issues with the JED and I'm struggling to identify what help (or "collaboration effort") the team is looking for.

I'm still unclear if there are technical problems, management problems or simply not enough people on the ground to deal with the questions asked about the JED. If we knew better where the problems lie then, perhaps, we'd be in a better position to collaborate.

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