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That was too funny to say - hey! cut that trolling out! lol! 

Now, where are you? There is a CB fix. Does SMF have to be integrated?

I assume you still have your database backup. You could return to 12.

I'd tell you the several steps you didn't take to protect yourself, but, it sounds like life has helped teach you a few lessons, already.

What can we do to help? Sorry, I'm not 11. I'm even a bit more than four times that, but, I'll try to help you, anyway, if I can.

Amy

Edit: here is the CB link - they still look a day away from a final release for 13; also JoomlaHacks looks like they are closing in on an SMF bridge for 13 and they have been testing with CB, as well. Getting closer, it appears.

Oh, I am all set now, I have just been reading all posts over the past 30 days so I am better prepared next time. There have been quite a few nice people that have answered all of my questions.
As far as the 11 year old crack, I had an 11 year old over a few days ago when I messed up.

Child: Didn't you save your directory structure?
Kgw: Yes
Child: saved your database?
Kgw: yes.
Child: Did you back it up to your USB drive before you deleted the directory on the computer when you thought you fixed it?
Kgw: No.
Child: Did you actually read front pages and forums before you went back to the old version or look at the version number?
Kgw: No.
Child: I think my mom should check out my babysitters better.

True story! So now I am reading the forums and learning as it is better than telling a judge why I had to beat a minor. I just wanted to add my 2 cents that all CMS's have issues on almost any upgrade. It isn't a localized issue.
With what Joomla does out of the box makes it worth waiting for extensions updates. I messed up because I wasn't paying attention, I read this thread because the thought crossed my mind when I goofed. So since I have 1.0.13 installed, I'll wait.

hehe! Oh my! Yes, smart thinking on reading rather than beating! They are getting younger, though.

I hope it all works out soon for you. Thanks very much for your positive frustrated attitude and sense of humor!

Amy

okokokokok

this post has become a fire of opinions.
we should focus on the problem not in the  - I think thing-

is there a solution for this issue.

Which issue? What help do you need?

about  the  joomla  1.0.13  and the login issue.
every 5 minutes there is a post about it.

Balam -

Have you upgraded? Are you having a problem with a specific extension? If so, which one? Did you do a database backup before upgrading? I still am not certain what you need. I'll be more than happy to try to answer a question if I can - and you ask it!

Amy

than you Ami. you are very nice.
I am not upgrading yet because the forum is full of upgrade issues the major is the admin login loop problem
before I upgrade i wanto to make shure that the admin login works fine.

Smart thinking.  I hope others proceed with caution, too. It's a good idea to upgrade in a development environment using XAMPP, or something similar, first. People need to check out extensions that integrate security systems very closely. And, always backup the database before updating production.

Take care!
Amy

Have been off the forum for a couple of days - but didn't want to leave the long post by  AmyStephen sometime back without comment.



First of all - my sincere apologies if you felt attacked personally. I certainly didn't intend to.  And yes, I was angry. I just "lost" two developpers that are important to me as a result of GPL discussions...  But let's be blunt here: would you rather want users to be angry - because they want to stay with Joomla and appreciate everything it has to offer OR would you want users to be indifferent and turn away from Joomla because of all the problems that currently have developped? 

@severdia  Thanks for coming to my rescue!  Changing the encryption modality is indeed more than a minor upgrade for a "lay user" and the length of this thread confirms that there has been a slight problem.

@AmyStephen:  I was prewarned by Phil Taylor and didn't upgrade to Joomla 1.0.13 because of it. You see, I am not a programmer or developper, but a simple user.  And didn't you say  "smart thinking" in a later post to someone who didn't upgrade  So I guess it't okay.

But more to the point: Phil has pointed out the advantages as well as the problems with upgrading to Joomla 1.0.13. That's the kind of service someone like me needs.  And I appreciate people like Phil as well as the ones who work so hard on the Joomla project "for free". I just think it is unfair, if only the latter group are portrayed as "the nice guys".
 
So let's not pretend there are no conflicts (of interest - if nothing else) nor become overly defensive, please, but rather work towards solutions to problems (and I believe this is what you folks are doing)

If you are asking what I prefer - I would rather people conduct themselves in such a way that productive discourse takes place. It is interesting that after talking to Phil, you didn't upgrade, but you still felt the need to attack like that? Never is that "okay" to me. Sorry! We need to watch our behavior. It's a community and we are all adults. No one needs to be rescued from behaving like that.

Thanks for your more calm response. The issues are worth discussing and easier to hear without the flames.

All the best...Amy

Wow, you are quick!

I just reread the whole of our little discussion.... I do have the feeling that there are several misunderstanding - as well as some very right understandings along the way. Now, I am not really in the mood for getting into an argument here, nor do I need to have the last word (in fact, at the moment I feel more like withdrawing from the forum for a while), but to honor your efforts (and NO this is not meant as sarcastic remark!) just a little answer as to feelings I have detected....

The term "Stupid" came from the blog post "fighting the stupids"  (Pretty strong language, as the writer admits himself - and yes, I heard his irony.)  The term greed does appear in this forum.... However, I am willing to admit that I have been reading between the line, not only using information on the lines of this forum. Yet the argument is obvious to me and hardly one I have made up.  So I do feel hurt by being called to order in such a way, while trying to contribute to the discussion that you and I feel is needed.

Okay, I'll shut up and hope your hurt will subside as well as mine.

I have the same problem and I can't not login after upgrading from 0.12 to 0.13, if someone find the solution let me know.

Joomla Starter -

You can't logon to Joomla!? What extensions do you have installed? Take another look at the announcement and see if there is advice there that might help you. Otherwise, please provide a bit more on what you did and what doesn't work.

Thanks!
Amy

I have only updated 2 domains  from 1.012 to 1.013

1 http://www.joomla-directory.biz (free joomla directory for all joomla sites)

Problem   can't login any more

server infos  Apache
PHP VERSION: 5.2.3:
› Supported functions and extensions
› Display phpinfo()
PERL VERSION: 5.008004
MYSQL VERSION: Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.27, for pc-linux-gnu (i686) using readline 5.0


Important I have changed my php from 4.4.6 to 5.2.3 today  because  it's 3  days that I can't login as admin!  front/backend!

-------------------------
2

my other site is still running under 1.012 update to 1.013  here I can login but I cant Insert images or media Files (javascript does nor open)

In this case  i can login without problem!

and here the infos for this domain

Linux imu8 2.6.17.13_IMU-130 #1 SMP Mon Sep 18 10:04:48 CEST 2006 i686
Database Version: 4.1.20-max-log
PHP Version: 4.4.6
Web Server: Apache
WebServer to PHP interface: apache
Joomla! Version: Joomla! 1.0.12 Stable [ Sunfire ] 25 December 2006 01:00 UTC (the files are updated to 1.013)

many thanks Amy and all joomla Helpers!!!!

JSMF 2.0.2.1

http://www.joomlahacks.com/component/op ... ic,4174.0/

I have 1.0.11 right now.  And I did install CB, but I don't really see that I'll need CB for my purposes.  I'm doing journalism.  My site is a news magazine, and people like it.  I want to minimize my headaches when I do upgrade.  Can't afford to lose the site even for a day.

Gary -

I know you were planning to skip 12 and wait for 13. Do you have extensions that would be a problem in 13? To find out, check with the developers. 13 is a good release and recommended for upgrade. (Especially since you waiting on 12, I think.)

One thing to consider is testing out the upgrade on a local server so that any problems can be discovered - and resolved - before committing to a "real" upgrade. That's a safe way to really check things out.

Certainly understand your desire not to go offline. An upgrade shouldn't take much time if you test it out thoroughly before hand. (And backup OF COURSE before doing so on your real site.)

I like your site, too, BTW!
Amy

Amy:

Thanks for your kind words about my site.  My only complaint is the load time.  I think the Burst ads are slowing things down.  I hope they start to pay better. 

I may just copy the entire site to a subdirectory in my web design domain (too confusing to do it on the same domain).  Since they're in the same account, I shouldn't have to duplicate the database -- just use the same one twice.  Then I'll upgrade the dummy site.

The site is very time consuming, but extremely rewarding.  I'm really having a great time with it.

OK - I'm going to caution you on that approach for 13.

One of the changes was the way that the user passwords are stored in the database. So, it's important *not* to test the upgrade using the same database.

Can you create a new database for your subdomain? Then backup your real site's database and restore it into the new database? That will keep all fingers out of your "real" site.

But, don't do the upgrade SHARING the database or the password change will occur in your data.

If that doesn't makes sense, let me know!
Amy

Community Builder 1.1 has been released, and is compatible with Joomla 1.0.0 to 1.0.13 included, as well as with Joomla 1.5 RC 1 and current SVN. 

It includes the new password scheme of Joomla 1.0.13 and of Joomla 1.5 RC 1, and is capable of adapting its database scheme to the underlying CMS version, providing automatic password storage adaptation, allowing (hopefully) for smooth upgrades and downgrades. 

It is a highly recommended upgrade for compatibility, features and also for security enhancements.

Please see Community Builder homepage ( http://www.joomlapolis.com/ ) for the full announcement information and updated article on compatibility.

CB 1.1 has undergone 6 beta releases, 5 RC releases and 1 final candidate release, before being released, and has been tested by 20 testers from CB testteam on 10 different platforms, so we are quite confident on its stability. Updated documentation packages (free installation doc and subscriptions-based extensive documentation) are also available. Last weeks have been very intensive. 

Many Thanks also to Sam for providing quickly a patch for CB 1.0.2 for Joomla 1.0.13 compatiblity, was really very much appreciated by CB core team and by the CB community.

Many Thanks too to all the helpfull people in the forums during this releasing time. 

Hi,


Indeed Amy however there's an easier way to do such backup job using Crontab.

For hosting providers who supply CPanel, user can log in, and under Site Management, he/she can click on crontab icon.

For anyone who's interested in this:

• Commands are listed over Wikipedia for anyone who's interested.
• Moreover, anyone can google for cron jobs or google for crontab

Thanks a lot

Sorry but  I have not installed community builder on my sites!

I delete now everthing on joomla-directory.biz and reinstall the new software! 1.013 directly:!!!!

seems that nothing works to find  a solution!

Why would you want to downgrade ~~~~ Cory Nelkin

JoomlaStarter -

If you are still having problems, go ahead and start a new thread.

When you do, though, try to describe the problem. What is not working? How did it work before? How has it changed? What extensions do you have installed? What do you think is happening? Anything like screen prints or error messages - details - will ensure you get assistance needed.

Thanks,
Amy

@HH - thanks for the links and information!

I usually don't mind waiting a few days. 

The answers given in this forum are always thoughtful, reasoned, and polite.

However, there were those moments where I was pulling out what little hair I had left when I was with my old host.  If my site went down, it was usually because my host had once again permitted generosity with bandwidth to run out of control.  If I was having a Joomla issue on top of that, well....



Luckily I've learned much in a short time, mostly here, and can fix most issues rather quickly.

Gary - I responded to your last post a few minutes after you posted, but didn't hear from you, again. Did you see my post? ... Thanks! Amy

Ah.  Missed that one.  Thanks for writing again.

I'll keep this in mind, copy the database, upload it to phpMyAdmin, and work with a completely separate install.

I'll need to wait until I have time.  That's going to take an afternoon, I'm sure.

I wondered if you missed that. I should have PM'ed you. Sorry about that! Your plans sound good.

There is also now an official patch for Joomla! v 1.0.13 due to backend timeout issues:
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... #msg944268

So, apply that after your upgrade.

All the best!
Amy

Amy:

When I actually sit down to do this, soon, hopefully, I'll come back to this thread.  I'm long overdue for the upgrade.  Putting it off for too long.