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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:18 am 
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I've approached Shaun Inman, of wonderful http://www.shauninman.com Font Replacement fame regarding the extensibility of merging Mint - http://www.haveamint.com into J!

Yet to hear back from him, but at least the offers out there  :-\


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absalom wrote:
I've approached Shaun Inman, of wonderful http://www.shauninman Font Replacement fame regarding the extensibility of merging Mint into J!

Yet to hear back from him, but at least the offers out there  :-\


i wondered about this myself! Good show, absalom! :)


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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:27 am 
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It looks to be a great package.

The problem that I forsee is that it might have to be a commercial site licence, in step with what Shaun's doing himself for Mint. The same kind of principle applies to the Creative Commons Non-Com licencing structure by which I've negotiated to bring in stuff from various blog tools.


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absalom wrote:
I've approached Shaun Inman, of wonderful http://www.shauninman.com Font Replacement fame regarding the extensibility of merging Mint - http://www.haveamint.com into J!

Yet to hear back from him, but at least the offers out there  :-\


Hey, Absolom. Have you installed Mint?

I just downloaded it, and I'm wondering as to what page and where I need to put the javascript string for pages you want watched?

i.e.

Do I put that in the body of my templates index.php page. If you've installed it, and thought about this, I'd appreciate your input.

Loved your Lone Mamber interview by the way ;^)


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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:31 pm 
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moxy wrote:
Hey, Absolom. Have you installed Mint?

I just downloaded it, and I'm wondering as to what page and where I need to put the javascript string for pages you want watched?

i.e.

Do I put that in the body of my templates index.php page. If you've installed it, and thought about this, I'd appreciate your input.

Loved your Lone Mamber interview by the way ;^)


I've been very, very, very busy.. I haven't had time to even purchase it.

However, I have integrated 3PD stats packages before into J!/Mambo (e.g. WebTrends). You do need to integrate it into the template file (index.php), but place the actual site script in your website's root directory..


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absalom wrote:
I've been very, very, very busy.. I haven't had time to even purchase it.

However, I have integrated 3PD stats packages before into J!/Mambo (e.g. WebTrends). You do need to integrate it into the template file (index.php), but place the actual site script in your website's root directory..


Hey, thanks for getting back. In case anyone else out there searches Mint - this thing is great. Not unlike Awstats - but the layout and presentation of the information that it pulls makes it very easy to view and appreciate.

What I did was to take the code that Inman wants included on the pages you want to "watch":

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<script src="/mint/mint.js.php" type="text/javascript" language="javascript"></script>


and change it to

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<script src="<?php echo $mosConfig_live_site;?>/mint/mint.js.php" type="text/javascript" language="javascript"></script>


Then place it in the 'body' (I put it on the first line) of your template's index.php file. Then the stats start rolling in, with page names etc., referrers - works like a charm. And presented in a way that is very easy to understand and evaluate.

Very cool. If anyone's interested I can post n image of the screen layout of the stats results.

Thanks again, Ab. -

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:05 am 
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That's why I want to integrate it into J!  ::)


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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:19 am 
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It's be a welcome addition...


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Shaun worked on a Beta version for quite a while called ShortStat.  Not as robust as 'Mint', but it is licensed under GNU/GPL.  It was all PHP (not javascript). I'm fudging around with trying to get it to work in a template index.php; but I'm not much of a developer.  If anyone wants to take a crack @ getting it to work with Joomla, you can download it @

http://www.shauninman.com/downloads/shortstat_v036b.zip

I tried to call the script as follows:
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<?php include_once("$GLOBALS[mosConfig_live_site]/shortstat/inc.stats.php"); ?>

The errors I'm getting are:
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Warning: main(): URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/blah-blah/templates/tmplt-7c/index.php on line 1

Warning: main(http://www.domain.com/shortstat/inc.stats.php): failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/blah-blah/templates/tmplt-7c/index.php on line 1

Warning: main(): Failed opening 'http://www.domain.com/shortstat/inc.stats.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/blah-blah/templates/tmplt-7c/index.php on line 1

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:09 pm 
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Hi,

I started working on the bsq_sitestats component two weeks ago. It is based off fo and works along side of ShortStat. Follow the link in my profile to download the component.

Version 1.1 had hit compression, which solves the problem if the ShortStat tables getting too large.

Version 1.2 will have reporting modules in both the front-end and back-end.

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Shaun worked on a Beta version for quite a while called ShortStat.  Not as robust as 'Mint', but it is licensed under GNU/GPL.  It was all PHP (not javascript). I'm fudging around with trying to get it to work in a template index.php; but I'm not much of a developer.  If anyone wants to take a crack @ getting it to work with Joomla, you can download it @

http://www.shauninman.com/downloads/shortstat_v036b.zip

I tried to call the script as follows:
Code:
<?php include_once("$GLOBALS[mosConfig_live_site]/shortstat/inc.stats.php"); ?>

The errors I'm getting are:
Quote:
Warning: main(): URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/blah-blah/templates/tmplt-7c/index.php on line 1

Warning: main(http://www.domain.com/shortstat/inc.stats.php): failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/blah-blah/templates/tmplt-7c/index.php on line 1

Warning: main(): Failed opening 'http://www.domain.com/shortstat/inc.stats.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/blah-blah/templates/tmplt-7c/index.php on line 1


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Thanks, Brent!  You made my day!  8)

Do you have a developmental forum here, or are you using the one on your blog site?

Questions posted on your site for now.

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malibu wrote:
Thanks, Brent!  You made my day!  8)

Do you have a developmental forum here, or are you using the one on your blog site?

Questions posted on your site for now.


I'm using the forums on my blog site. The road map, etc will be posted there when I get some more time. My day job is slowing me down right now :)

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Nicely done..

It's always good to see open source dev doing what open source dev does best  8)

My day job looks to be taking a small breather soon..hopefully in a month.. I've still got a 15,000 page site to migrate and other code to worry about... hopefully I can pull it all off by Christmas.. :P


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absalom wrote:
Nicely done..

It's always good to see open source dev doing what open source dev does best  8)

My day job looks to be taking a small breather soon..hopefully in a month.. I've still got a 15,000 page site to migrate and other code to worry about... hopefully I can pull it all off by Christmas.. :P


Thanks. Make sure the suggest new features too. I'm currently going off of what Michiel (g2 bridge author) and me think should be in there. Outside input is appreciated :).

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I too have become a big fan of mint.
Moxy, thanks for the code to intergrate it into index.php.

I'm hoping to find time to write a little php and extract some of the mint data I have collected to put on my site.
I'm no php coder at all (did some about 3 years ago).
Suggestions on where to begin would be appreciated.
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Sorry - wouldn't know where to begin. Would love to see it when you get done though...


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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:05 am 
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We handle a couple of sites that have a large amount of visitors. One of them has more than 2400 daily visitors and more than 16.000 pages, we have reached +3000 and more than 21.000 some days.

With this kind of traffic we can't use TSF for mambo. A month's worth of stats generates a database of more than 25 MB making mambo crawl to display pages...

Mint is very nce but it dumps the info about the page access on a monthly basis... we need to track the must popular pages on a monthly or yearly basis

IS there any option that the community can recomend to handle the stats in a high traffic mambo site?


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Does anyone know how to configure the local searches option in Mint?


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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:25 am 
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terryit3 wrote:
Does anyone know how to configure the local searches option in Mint?




I got the local searches for joomla to work in mint by configuring the following for the Local Searches Pepper.

Path: /joomainstall/index.php
Query: searchword

where "joomlainstall" is where joomla is installed on your server.

I've been trying mint for a few days now and like it so far. I would be very interested in any kind of queries or php code to grab some interesting data in a joomla module. I think I recall somebody on the mint forums posting some code for pulling total and unique hits out, but I haven't had time to get that far yet.

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azdrew:

I don't remember whether or not it was on the Mint forums or not, but I thought I read somewhere that the Local Search Pepper can cause a bit of a performance hit.

Do you have a fairly busy site, and how has your experience been with this Pepper?

I have a busy site, so I've been hesitant to install it. If you get a minute to post some feedback about the Pepper itself, I'd really appreciate it.


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Moxy,

that's interesting. No my site isn't very busy yet - I'm in the process of creating a new website for our Church with Joomla so its mostly me and a few other people hitting it so far. Interestingly, a couple of times in the last rew of days I've notice some long lags while loading some pages. I was starting to wonder if it was mint or some other new component or mambot I'd installed.

I do have mint set to "ignore me" so I don't contribute hits - so it could be mint is a red herring; I'm not sure how much work mint goes through when its ignoring a user.

Thanks for the heads up though; I may monitor the use of the local searches; since search strings are availble in Joomla itself,maybe it isn't needed in mint, although I like having everything rolled up in one place with mint.....



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i set mint up at http://www.mogwai.co.uk

it can become an absolutely huge database in mySQL if you have a lot of visitors

just to let you know

it is good though

also be aware that javascript isnt the ideal way to get stats (think there is a php way to call mint)

it isnt ideal as you are not tracking anyone with javascript not enabled

you need proper stats remember

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I love mint, the report are beautiful but it is geared only toward light traffic sites.

In order to keep thorough stats with any system on a high traffic site you need to have a dedicated server adn spend at least $700 in good software, otherwise you will end up eating all the space on your shared service without realizing it.

We found that the best solution at the moment is google analytics: it is free, it is based in urchin which is good but not great and they have the capability to keep the stats for a loooong time. The reports are not very nice but we build better ones when we need them in Illustrator offline.

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