Wordpress Vs. Joomla

[cocoro123]

I have some points from my opinion.
With Wordpress, it's easy to use, configuration is very simple and everyone can learn to settup wordpress blog very quickly. But due to the simplicity, we need to install extension plugin. That's point I don't like. Sometime, if we install the bad plugin, we will ruin our blog. Very careful at this step.
With joomla platform, it's opposite with wordpress. Joomla is more complexer. For beginner, it's not easy as wordpress. We need to take more time to learn. But onece we understand, everything seem to be easier. we don't need to install extension plugin as wordpress, and feel that our blog's more safe.
That's my opinion.

[TheLogo-Mat]

Conjuring this thread up from a few years back: I still don't think Wordpress has evolved even close to as well as Joomla. Am I right?

[JuiceBusiness]

Hi Support,
We are considering converting one of our sites from Wordpress to Joomla. Can someone advise if the categories we have in WordPress can be populated to the same categories in Joomla? So, basically can the imported posts and pages we currently have in the Wordpress site populate into corresponding categories in Joomla?

Thanks

[TheLogo-Mat]

So- does Wordpress perform better via SEO that Joomla? Just curious...

[coaleb]

Lol, I wrote a whole blog post (yes, on Wordpress), about this!

http://briancoale.com/web-design/wordpr ... ly-better/

I even used the "screw & nail" analogy, enjoy!

As for which one's better with the Great Ghost of Google's SEO Past, I think the best answer is "it depends." I think Wordpress gets its reputation for SEO from the fact that it IS used as a blogging platform so often. Since the best tool for SEO is relavant content, Wordpress blogs with constantly updated & relavant content tend to beat out the typically more static business & organization sites preferred by Joomla users. The same site, with the same content & same specific set of cicumstances (age, location, frequency, search relevancy, etc), I imagine would have nearly the same performance SEO-wise.

Cheers!

[darb]

for seo, wordpress is better than joomla

I would like to see proof of this. I've been reading SEO blogs every day for the last 3 years and haven't found any conclusive study that confirms it.

Exactly. There is so much "talk" without any facts about so many things that WordPress sect is spreading all over the world.

AndresNWD - explain then so we can see and understand that "facts" - that is not true.

[darb]

WP is very weak in the multi language department. If your site needs to be multilingual, forget WP. Have a real good look at Joomla, with some addon blogging components.

Could you clarify this a bit?
I'm with Joomla since Mambo days and have always believed that multilingualism is the weak link.
I don't know, maybe I'm doing something wrong but creation of duplicate content for each language seems odd and I do not support reliance on third-party components for something that should be core functionality.
One project for the real estate site in 7 languages was a real pain in the ... Multiple duplicated content (categories, articles, menus, modules ...) a third-party component for translation plus custom code hacks for frontend content editing... a real mess.
Since then I'm looking for a CMS that would better meet my needs ... I think Magento platform has an ideal solution for multi-lingual website.
I would appreciate if anyone can recommend a CMS with a similar solution.

I have built a Joomla multi-language real estate portal site with 5 Joomla multi-language SEO optimized listings for 115 markets and with + 52 extra possible Google translations.

I dont understand what you mean by "duplicate" content bcs every language must have their own translations otherwise whats the point of having a multi-language site??

hmmm dont understand this what you say bcs this is one of Joomlas strongest core multi-language functionality points with "Language selector". And I have no need for any extra plugins or components for the translations as you talking about . I can also choose to show my blogs/news in whatever languages I want or not want.

So its not a mess and I dont believe you have anything to point to where this mess is that you talking about?

Show the facts.

This is the site that will be launched in 2-3 weeks. https:www.dreamhouses.com

[JAVesey]

......and today's prize for resurrecting a year-old thread goes to darb

[darb]

......and today's prize for resurrecting a year-old thread goes to darb

This is still posted here and people read this funky stuff and believe its true. I see so much of this outside Joomla and this discussion is important for all Joomla people as well to protect the brand and image of Joomla. Age have nothing to do with it..

[Gany]

• More silly smilies than text
• A dead and buried horse dug up and beaten to death again
• Insisting on proof
• Making boastful (and unproven) claims

If I didn't know any better I'd say a troll was paying a visit.

[darb]

If I didn't know any better I'd say a troll was paying a visit.

Exactly. And there are many on the pay-list...

So why you think there come one guy with one post that never answer personally back to the question he started?

bcs his WP sect friend comes to legitimise this biased statements and other bullshitting.

As always Mr Mullentweg sent his hypnotized disciples army with blinders to crank down on Joomla with all possible/impossible parameters possible.

And people that doesn't know, have experience and understand better believe in this preaches unfortunately. So Joomla people must stand up all the time everywhere and explain for the masses what is the fact and what's the fiction.

Hallelujah!

[BryanWalters]

You'll probably get a ton of different responses here... and most will probably be anti-WordPress. My first thought is...

WordPress is a blog with the ability to be a CMS... Joomla is a CMS with the ability to be a blog.

I agree, I have the same thought.

[TheLogo-Mat]

Gotcha- that makes sense.
Joomla may be a more intricate, but Wordpess has the benefit of "being known" to generate fresh info as it is blog-native-ish?

[narutositinh]

Well it's pretty simple. If your a graphic designer or a wan to be web developer, use Wordpress because it makes simple sites simple.
Also, with WP, most of the templates look like blogs. I understand that you can change them a lot to make them look less like blogs, but it seems Joomla templates look more site like out of the box. Is this correct or am I missing a major WP resource that helps with this.

[TheLogo-Mat]

I am wondering the same thing- are there Wordpress sites out there that have been customized so well that the look like legit sites?

[TheLogo-Mat]

Bueller...are there Wordpress sites out there that have been customized so well that the look like legit sites?

[jonBuckner1]

Hi all

Here's a weird thing
Whenever I 'inspect a site' which I often do I find that a lot of them are Wordpress - obviously - even webdesigner sites.

The wp sites tend to be the best looking. I see a site and think 'that's nice', have a look and it's wp.

I don't stumble on that many Joomla sites but my lasting memory is not being impressed with the ones I have seen. Even in 'showcase' sites. A lot are old, too.

This might be purely a numbers game, or my taste in web sites but it highlights to me why I would choose wp over anything else if I was a business owner wanting a site. Web design agencies often use it and businesses often use it so therefore I should often use it.
The admin area looks cool too - never done anything more than glance at it though

Joomla admin is unfamiliar and not as 'familiar' as wp

Takes a bit of commitment to think that Joomla is better from an 'ignorant' point of view

That's my thoughts... it's all subjective but whether better or not may not really matter in the long run.

[Gany]

I don't think that's a fair comparison. There are at least 5 to maybe 10 WP sites for each Joomla site. Of course you find lots of very good WP sites, since there are so many.

[vdwpatrick]

I would say that Wordpress is more userfriendly and easier to use. Anyone with a basic knodledge can quickly learn how to use Wordpress. In my personal opinion Joomla needs a bit more technical knowledge.

[jonBuckner1]

Hi Gany

"I don't think that's a fair comparison"...
That's why I said "I find a lot of them are Wordpress sites - obviously"

[sozzled]

I'm reluctant to be drawn into a irreconcilable discussion about "Joomla vs. Wordpress"; it's like debating the topic "which football team is better" or "what brand of soap is the best". There will be fans of Joomla and fans of Wordpress and that's OK. The only reason to use one or the other depends on what you want to do and how much time (and money) you have to do it.

Whether a site looks "better" or "legit" using one CMS or another is entirely irrelevant. A website's appeal is not necessarily constrained by its "looks" or its "legitimacy" (and, really, these terms should be explained more fully); the graphical design is important (unless you are visually impaired) but the site's content is what engages people.

Sure, you can have the best content in the world and it can be laid-out on a website like a dog's breakfast. You can also have the most glitzy, glamorous-looking website in the world that is devoid of any utility.

It's what you make of the content that is ultimately the determinant in choosing one CMS over another.

Having said that, I sincerely hope that discussions like "Wordpress vs Joomla" wither on the vine of sour grapes. This is the Joomla forum; if we have worthwhile contributions to write about improving Joomla let's make them. If there are difficulties, disabilities or justifiable criticisisms about Joomla then, in my opinion, do something about them.

Thank you all for reading. You can now resume your debate.

[developerdev]

They both have their pros and cons it just comes down to what you really need it for. Wordpress has so many security based updates it's hard to keep up with but there's a plugin which auto-updates the plugins but that being said, your site can break.

[TheLogo-Mat]

Is there a Joomla plugin that auto-updates?

[daica85]

I'd used Joomla from 2007 but it's just for 2 years then I switched to Wordpress till now. However now I want to switch back to Joomla and I'm researching this from scratch

[TheLogo-Mat]

Do you guys think that Joomla keeps up with updates, etc as well as Wordpress does?

[Webdongle]

Do you guys think that Joomla keeps up with updates, etc as well as Wordpress does?

Joomla updates are better

[TheLogo-Mat]

Thank you Mr. Dongle- can you expand on that?

[Webdongle]

... can you expand on that?

Yes I can expand on that but I wont. There is plenty of information showing why wp gets hacked frequently because of its failure to update core code.

[TheLogo-Mat]

Okay, thanks.

[Gany]

Shiny is relative. That depends on the template or theme you use. Far more important is that WP LOOKS easier to manage. The backend is far more intuitive. Easier to work on on a tablet, for example. I can teach my granny in a hour how to work with WP. (Have to dig her up first, but you get the gist.) Joomla takes a couple of hours more to get used to.

However, I noticed that managing a site in WP may LOOK easier, it is not. Managing images for example is a nightmare. Multilingual is possible, but complicated.