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I'm needing help in the  same area. Currently I have 1.3 and now my client wants to run RockZine which requires 1.5

me too, ive upgraded from RC3 - RC4 on a different site, but now need to go from 1.0.13 to RC4 on another one. 

can anyone tell us if this link has valid instructions for upgrading to RC4?

http://help.joomla.org/component/option ... temid,268/

I could upgrade successfully  from Joomla 1.0.13  to Joomla  1.5 RC 3 
using the migrator component (migrator_rc3)

But I get errors when I use it with Joomla  1.5 RC 4 

Any ideas? 

I found this tutorial that may be for us
http://help.joomla.org/content/view/1933/294/

it says there:

"This page is relevant to the migrator RC3 release and the latest release of Joomla! 1.5 at the time of writing (r9192)".

So, at the moment, i do not know of any document that covers the area of 1.0.x -> 1.5RC4 upgrading. 

If anyone knows of one, please post here.

Thank you

Edit: Oh wait, that is referring to an RC3 release of the migrator component not joomla 1.5RC3. I'm confused...

me too and completely lost

mods, can u let us know what u know please?

thank you!

The instructions should be fine -- The general idea is

1) migrator component in 1.0.13 to dump content
2) install fresh 1.5
3) load migrator script during 1.5 installation.
4) reinstall and configure any compatible extensions.

not trying to be problematic, just trying to avoid problems for people later:

"You need to download the Migrator Component version that match the Joomla 1.5 version you are going to use. For example if you want to use Joomla! 1.5 RC3 you need to download file “migrator_rc3.tgz”"
- JoomlaShine

And if you go to Migrator download page here:

http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/pasami ... ge_id=2588

You see it only goes up to RC3 at the moment. 

So what myself and others are looking for is a solution for RC4 - if there is one...

Oh, I see.  If there isn't a tool for RC4, you could install RC3, migrate your content, then update to RC4.  This would be a pain since you'd have to do the migration AND and update (plus some database updates.)

Sorry I misunderstood your question.  I'm not sure if the database changes between RC3 and RC4 would cause the migration to fail.

Sorry!

it seems like they are causing it to fail, a few posts up someone tried and i think i've seen some other attempts around the forums...

this is getting a bit silly, obviously a lot of people need to know how to do it (or even a definitive answer to whether it's possible atm) and are trying very hard to find out how. 

there are a few related posts here but none have the answer:

Does Migrator RC3 work with Joomla RC4?

migration rc3 does not work perfectly, far from it

1.0.9Stable to 1.5 RC4 ?

i don't mean to come across rude but to any mods or developers who have some definitive answers on whether it is possible to migrate to RC4 at the moment - it would be great if u could let us know.

thank you!

rw1

Well... if the update to RC3 works, then it certainly is possible... just not directly. 

As I mentioned above, 1.0.12 or 1.0.13 -> 1.5 RC3 -> 1.5 RC4.

I don't blame the developers for not replying because the function of RC's are for testing, so it's not important to be easily/readily updated from old versions.  Every minute a developer tries to find or explain ways to upgrade from 1.0.x to the various 1.5 RC's is a minute that they aren't fixing remaining bugs in 1.5!

I would feel differently if there were no clear instructions on how to go from 1.0.13 to 1.5 Stable; I'm sure this will be made clear when the time comes.

i agree, developers shouldnt be blamed for anything - they are incredible and if there is no migration script that is totally fine.  just would like to know from the source, so to speak and it's a bit chicken or the egg in regards to where migration scripts and instructions should be on the priorities list for RC's, it is arguable that it should be an important part of the release so that people can test it easily.  but yeah, whatever works for the developers is fine with me and i support them 100%!

Hi guys (and maybe gals),

The Migrator should work fine against the latest trunk and RC4. The RC3 in the Migrator is only to designate the release of the migrator, not which release of Joomla! it works on. I've tried to keep the releases in line with the Joomla! one, however the RC4 (not released yet) of the Migrator actually adds a feature to disabled plugins for individual tables to help speed up the process (able to ignore a large table like core_log_items). I haven't finished the feature or even committed what I've done on it to SVN but that is coming slowly (got a whole heap of other things I need to do as well). So Migrator RC3 should work with Joomla! 1.5 RC4 or even trunk, if it doesn't then its a bug

Thanks all for testing

Sam

Edit: made it clearer that Migrator RC4 hasn't been released yet. still a work in progress.

Great info, Sam.  Thanks.

I confirm you can migrate your website from from Joomla! 1.0.13 Stable to Joomla! 1.5 RC 4 :

-  there is a tool to migrate database : Migrator. It works but you could have some problems with tittles (name of category, name of section, a tittle of an article) with using eurpean characters (your old website can used two formats of characters : utf8 and ISO 8859-1 ...)

-  you cann't update templte ! You have to select a new template and to adapt it at your needs

-  for addiitionnal component, you have to verify if they are working on new environment ...

So, it's not an automatic procedure !

Didier L

It can handle other formats, you just need iconv on your server to convert them or to have converted the file to UTF-8 already. I have a stand alone Java tool that does the UTF-8 conversion, and there are many other tools that can do it (iconv can be used on Linux machines easily to transliterate between character sets). The migrator attempts to export as plain as possible without any character mangling, though the most amount of testing is done on ISO 8859-1 and UTF-8 because thats used by most of Europe and the English speaking world (Australia, Canada, UK and US to name a few)



The template should work if you enable legacy mode, however updating the template to 1.5 will provide extra features and a better experience obviously.



Standard for any sort of upgrade, people are still doing this with Vista!



True, but for the Core system at least its pretty close

Sam

I am somewhat new to all of this, and would just like to say this thread helped a lot -- at least in answering some basic questions about the versions and the rapid changes.  Thanks!

This issue is not clearly addressed. I have found it impossible to migrate from 1.0.13 to 1.5RC4 with the current tools. I get a number of errors. Duplicate entries, etc...

Is there an actual time-line on the RC4 Migrating tool? Can someone clearly state whether the RC3 tool will work or whether I am wasting my time trying to work through all the error statements.......

Thanks!

hi cheerfuldave,

this topic was posted a bit further up the page by the developer of the migrator - so its the most definitive answer.

i have decided to manually move everything, but thats ok for me cause my site isnt so big.

i understand your frustration though, we just have to be patient, just like in a marathon race, sometimes the last bit is the most trying but its worth it when u get to the finish line!  everyone is doing a tremendous job and putting in heaps of effort and time in getting to 1.5 stable. if we can communicate clearly, follow a clear plan and put our resources where most needed we'll get there in good shape and at the moment i think this is happening. 

is your site a large site? perhaps better to go with a clean install?  feel free to pm with a link and i'll see if i can help. 

all the best,

rw1

"..... So Migrator RC3 should work with Joomla! 1.5 RC4 or even trunk, if it doesn't then its a bug"

I will interpret this to mean I should stop wasting my time and wait until the new migrator tool is published.

Hi cheerfuldave,

The RC4 migrator only adds a few more features (the ability to disable plugins being the primary one and not exporting trashed items is the other one) and I'm sorry I don't have a time frame because my Joomla! dev time has mostly been taken up by 1.5 fixing. I would like you to test things out with RC3 because it should provide a consistent dump of your site and RC4 doesn't alter things that much.

The RC3 tool will work to migrate the content but for a table like core_log_items, it may take a while to export (large table), so I'm adding something so that you can make more flexible dumps. RC3 works fine as far as I can tell, I loaded a dump into yesterdays trunk (9904) so the two are compatible. What might be going wrong is something specific to your circumstance or site which is causing a bug, and this is what I'd love to hear about

Sam

Great - thanks for the update!

I am getting errors when I try and upload the migrate.sql file. It keeps giving me an error about duplicate entries.

You shouldn't be getting duplicate errors, what table is it reporting the duplicate on? Additionally don't forget that jos_ is the prefix for all migration dumps.

There is a migration tutorial on the help site for those interested: http://help.joomla.org/content/view/1933/294/

I have to agree. I have tried it numerous times and it hangs up on the first records jos_banner.

I have followed the directions to the letter. By the way - They should mention that changing the name of configuration.php will eliminate the xml errors.

I haven't seen the xml errors, can you post the replication for it? Can you also email me a copy of your dump and I'll have a look over it and see if I can work out whats going on, sam DOT moffatt AT joomla DOT org

I'm not sure I completely follow but let me try to summarize.
Download the rc3 migrator.. ( from svn? )
run it against the existing j1.0.13 site.
install 1.5RC4 in a new directory
during that process tell it to use the .sql file created by the migrator.
test that all compenents and such are working in the new 1.5.
move new folder to original folder
update configuration.php

Does this mean that I will not have to reinstall all the components and mods that are existing in my original 1.0.13 install?
What happens with SMF?
Docman?
CB?
Thanks

Its already prepackaged, the migration tutorial I linked to earlier has a link to download the component. You might have missed it:




Correct, I've actually been using Apache virtual sites to change the place where the site is located so I don't have to do anything with my old 1.0 sites and they still remain valid, just inaccessible unless I alter the Apache config. Also using a test site somewhere behind a firewall with dummy DNS helps as well.



Yes you will have to reinstall the components into 1.5, probably with legacy mode enabled. Both CB and Docman I believe have functioning 1.5 versions, SMF is a bit different however I believe Rocketwerx had a project to build a native Joomla! 1.5-phpBB3 bridge and phpBB3 has a beta SMF converter I believe. Again I'd test everything first to see if it behaves the way you want it to in a test environment and make sure you are confident and getting things done without any errors, and there is no harm remaining on 1.0 for a while after 1.5 is released to test things and make sure you are happy. Also I haven't seen any third parties developing any migrator plugins yet so either all of the third parties are going to write their own migration system or they're just waiting for 1.5 to be released. In such case at present migrating with third party extensions is more of a holding and testing strategy until the developers update their extensions and provide support for migration.

My biggest push for using 1.5 is that with the SMF bridge gone, JFusion becomes the only choice.  I'm willing to live temporarily with it only syncing users and not handling everything.  But from what I've seen of PhpBB3 its no where near the quality SMF is.  We have a really nice looking board in SMF and I'd hate to lose that.  I'm not skilled enough to create a new theme that completely matches what we already have.