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For many people, it seems (you and I included), Page Titles are the same as Article Titles because of Rule 2 here:
http://www.joomla.org/content/view/5180/1/1/2/

If this is the case for you, then changing the global parameters to turn off Article Titles might work as a quick fix. This was also my initial reaction to the problem, but then I realized that for some menu types, such as Category List Layouts, you're left without any links to articles because the article titles have all disappeared.

Hi again

I managed to get things done - more or less. Just a quick summary how I managed to get rid of the double article titles.

I first went to the global content settings an diabled show article title.
Then I modified all menu item parameters to show article title=use global settings; show page title = yes
The blog view menu Items I modified to show article title = yes; show page title =no

Using this settings I got rid of the double article title. Unfortunately I cannot see the page title in the blog view, just the listing of the content items. It would be nice to display a page title as well (e.G. overview or infocenter) but as soon as I enable the page title display in the blog view I have the problem with double article titles.

Still not sure if this behavior is OK but I am happy at the moment to see only one article title.

Best regards and many thanks for guiding me to the (preliminary?) solution

Onki

Obviously you didnt view the site, Every article shows 1 title

I apologize for being the first one to report this issue, I apologize for linking to a site that I built. I apologize for staying up for 2 hours working on a solution to my issue. I apologize for helping now 6 other people that said my solution worked.

To me everyone is pointing the finger and blog view as the issue. I dont have blog view used, Just a normal none menu linked item found in the 'Popular Module' all of them had Double Content Titles.

Onki -

Yes - that would certainly turn off article titles in the blog view.

Did you try this approach I recommended earlier?



If you tried it and it didn't work, having those screen prints of your menu item and article configurations, and the blog page and article page would be so helpful. It should work perfectly - if it doesn't then we need to figure out why.

Thanks,
Amy

Both solutions work. So once again we found one more problem with more then 1 solution. I have updated my article because of this post and credited Eric for pointing out the list view deal. I was tired when I did the upgrade, I only did it because I had 4 people in the irc channel crying so I did it to see if I could find a quick fix, in less then 20 minutes i had the site upgraded and I had found a work around on the problem because google had nothing and no where on the release notes does it mention the possibility of having double content titles.... Am I wrong?

What Eric is correctly pointing out is that we need to go back through the Menu Types and change the default values on some of them.

The specific menu type Eric is referencing is the Article Layout menu type. Because the default is set to Yes - and because this incorrect logic has been corrected - those who do not change their parameter values will wind up with two Page titles.

What Eric is suggesting is we should also change the default for that menu type to No. And, he is right on that. We should have done that and will do so before the next release.

Hope that helps,
Amy

Hi

I'll try the other solution tomorrow. Need some sleep first.

Good Night

Onki

Sounds good, thanks for your patience, Onki.

Amy

Okay, the correct way to change your page title display is to go into each individual menu link and change it. This is what I recommend for most people.

The below is only for experienced users who actually understand what the xml and php is doing.

WARNING: This is a hack

I only recommend this for experienced users who have many, many menu items to change or many many sites.

IF you want to make the default for a particular view be NOT to show the page title (it is currently default YES)

For all new links, change

administrator\components\com_menus\models\metadata\component.xml

Line 8

from

to


This will apply to ALL link types

To change existing links which did not have a specific parameter selected go to the template for the view you want. Using article layout as an example go to:

components\com_content\views\article\templ\default.php

and change line 6

from:

to:


What these changes do is change the default value of show_page_title to 0 instead of 1.


Again, please only do this if you actually understand what it is doing.
It is NOT necessary to do both changes.

Hi Amy

I tried the solution to set the global article title on and disable the page title in the blog menu item off. It works as well.

I think the real problem is that when the 'real' article is shown in detailed view (after clicking on read more) the article title is treated as page title (which is wrong in my opinion). This leads to the double display in the article view.

I can live with the current solution at the moment although it's not the right way in my opinion. The problem is that it's impossible at the moment to display a page title in the blog view without having the double titles in the article view.

Best regards

Onki

Good morning,

I would like to share my problem with you Amy:

- At the backend I've turned on the Show article Title:
http://www.getonline.ie/images/stories/Andras_bugs/01_article_preferences.jpg

- And I've turned on the Show Page Title in the Menu Item as well because our customer wants to see the Category title:
http://www.getonline.ie/images/stories/Andras_bugs/02_menu_element_preferences.jpg

- Now everything looks fine:
http://www.getonline.ie/images/stories/Andras_bugs/03_category_list__layout.jpg

- but when I click on a link I'll see two titles, one from componentheading and one from contentheading:
http://www.getonline.ie/images/stories/Andras_bugs/04_article_layout_from_cat_list.jpg

It isn't possible to turn off the Show Page Title for me, this option is necessary.

(I don't understand clearly why the joomla developer team changed the way of this. It was working well until the new release. )

All the best, and I'm still waiting for a solution without hack

Gedu (and all) -

You are right. We have a problem in the Category blogs when you drill down to the Article levels by clicking the "Read more" (or page title) links.

Thank you for taking time to share images of your configuration and the output. That helped illuminate this problem very clearly.

I am not certain what we are going to do but I will report back soon on this.

My personal apologies for this issue as I was a part of the testing and failed to see this error.

Thank you for your patience.
Amy

No problem,

We just do our best

Hi to all!

Based on mcsmom hack - posting.php?mode=reply&f=430&t=306067#pr1344992 - if you don't want to feel as "hacker" - try to use this solution ( thanx to nice Joomla! MVC framework!)

1. Create folder /html/com_content/article/ in your current template ( full path in default template show : /templates/rhuk_milkyway/html/com_content/article/).
2. Copy the changed default.php to this folder. (See my attachment).
3. Your Joomla! 1.5.4 now render this file instead of core file, t.m. you not need change core file -> not a "hacker", but developer!

Hope this help.

Tibor -

Thank you. This is a very good solution. It is so encouraging to see community stepping up and helping one another.

We are still working on this and will be back with more.

Thank you, again, Tibor.

Amy

I have what I think is a related issue...

After upgrading from 1.5.3 to 1.5.4 I had the double page titles (or an article and page title). I went in to each menu item and disabled the page title and got my desired results... with one exception:

I have a frontpage article with a read more break... on the frontpage it shows just the article title... after I click on read more it shows the page title and article title.

As a frontpage article I cant simply change the menu item to disable page title.

If I go into the article itself to disable article title (and have only page title showing as a compromise)... it breaks the read more functionality.

No big deal in the long run but I suspect it's either the same bug quoted above in a different guise or a related bug.

It sounds like the same problem. The article layout we know is not working correctly.

Try Tibor's solution- a couple of posts up. It will completely resolve this problem while you wait for the permanent fix.

Thanks for reporting this and to all of you for your support and patience.
Amy

A simple way to solve the problem is to ad the following to the CSS:



Best regards - Oliver

Please see related blog item at :
http://developer.joomla.org/home/26-coordinator-blog/188-154-duplicate-titles.html

Hi Oliver23!

Be careful with "switch-off" css class .componentheading in your template css file. Many extensions and also core files use this class to display for the component title, etc. If you simply set display:none, this title never show up.

Yep thanks. I don't habe many components on that website. I'll use it until the bug is hopefully fixed in 1.5.5 :-)

Before the development team rushes to judgment on all the feedback about the double titles I'd like to offer some comments. The problem is really a lack of facility to manage and propagate the Page title feature.

1) The new consistency of the parameter overrides is great. It really is easier to manage software that works in a consistent way (even if flawed). The problem is that it undoes all the compensatory stuff people have done to get their web sites working (Oh well life's a b...). I really think we can manage the pain.
2) The Article title is well managed by both a Global parameters list set in the Article Manager as well as the detail override at the Article itself. The problem is that the Page Title is troublesome to set in the Menu Manager as there is no way to set this as a Global it must be done at each menu item. Why can there not be a similar Global parameters list in the Menu manager? And then have the detail override in the menu item itself.
3) Enhance the Global override for the special cases of the Front Page and special layouts (such as blogs or lists).

Cheers.

I haven't upgraded yet and after giving this a brief review, I'm wondering if this will complicate a problem I'm having with 1.5.3.

I changed the FAQ Menu item to Section Blog Layout and get the following results:

The Submenu links (in top menu) are set to Category Blog Layout and when selected yield the following:

However, when you select one of the Article links in the Section Blog Layout (see 1st image) I get the following:

I would prefer that the Article links would provide the same results as the either the submenu or the customized Article List as the first image. (does that make sense?)

I was hoping this might be corrected with the upgrade but now I'm not so sure.

NOTE TO MODERATORS: Feel free to move this to a more appropriate thread if it's not relevant to this one.

Tibor's solution did not seem to work for me. Am I missing something? I am still seeing Page and Article titles.

Which template do you use? Core, 3pd, own.... ?

I am using a custom template based on rhuk_milkway on one of my sites with the issue.

Other than this fix, what else should I be doing to prevent two titles from appearing?

Hmmm, neither does this mod work for me. I'm using the template JSN_Epic_Free

I fully agree.
Unfortunately, com_menu does not even read the params column from the components table, which would be a nice and easy way to change the defaults w/o changing any files. That's probably due to the different menutypes that each have their very own set of parameters but some that overlap: you may want a menu_image for Menu Links but not for Components. The core and the db structure can't deal with that as global parameters as there is only one params column for com_menu.

I ended up editing the xml config files which is a little "hacky" but less errorprone than messing with the php code. It works prefect and since the xml files change less frequently than the php code this is pretty update-savvy :-)
For com_menu look at
administrator/components/com_menus/models/metadata/*.xml
and change the default attributes to your needs, but keep track of any change you make! This may still be considered a "core hack" ;-)

Have fun,
CirTap

tibor's solution does not work for me neither.
i don't want to change the core, cos i don't want to generate an other problem for the following releases,
what can we do now??

cigdangle and masteryoda -

Would you please describe what you did, exactly? Tibor's fix should work for your situation, as well. You might want to try it again, carefully following the instructions. Otherwise, share the specific steps you took to implement this fix and we can see what went wrong.

Thanks!

+++++

I also appreciated CommodorePeter's comments. To be clear for those of you trying to address the "double titles on the article page" problem, what CirTap is responding to has nothing to do with the double title problem. It addresses a way for individuals to establish defaults for new menu items and it is an idea that works. It is also undeniably a core hack and you would need to upgrade with that in mind. In fact, for the next upgrade, it could change . Mainly realize that trying this idea will not correct the double title issue.

Thanks for the continued support and all of these ideas.
Amy