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I saw a couple threads on this but neither helped me.

I installed the plugin include content item from kksou. This appears to be exactly what I need, and it was recommended in the threads I read.

But I can't make it work. The format it tells you to do is for example "{include_content_item 123} "

This will embed article with ID 123 into your article. And it works for me just fine. But I want to embed a contact form, which does not have a content item ID. The lead form I want to embed is contact item ID 4, but how do I tell joomla to add the contact item not an article?

Is your contact form a module?

You don't need special extensions. Go to setup screen of the module. In module position field TYPE myposition1. TYpe!!! It looks like dropdown selection menu, but you can type in it!!!

Then go to your article and in the place you want your contact form to show type {loadposition myposition1}

Hmm, then I'd be stuck on your question "is your contact form a module?"

That question seems to be being asked in this thread with no answer

http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=276336

Also, jmuehleisen in the 4th post seems to say there is no contact module but only a contact component (which I'm aware of but don't know how to embed).

http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=428&t=555754

http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... -a-include

There are extensions to both load a component into a module position and into an article.

Are you using joomla built in login system?

If so. Go to module manager and look for module named login. Click on it and do the thing from my previous post.

If you don't see module named login, click new, select login, enable it and doo again do the same thing.

If you are using some other component extension, tell me which one...

OK, I solved this by installing an extension that lets you create a contact form as a module. Then i can insert a module. I still couldn't figure out how to do this without an extension, but at least it's done. Thanks all.