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learwbc4
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woorank doesn't recognize caching in any of our joomla sites

Post by learwbc4 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:17 pm

first go here and check joomla.org scan/review

http://www.woorank.com/en/www/joomla.org

go to the bottom and it says:

Perfect, your server is using a caching method to speed up page display.

none of my joomla sites passes this cache part. our wordpress sites pass this cache part in the woorank tool, why doesn't joomla? and why is the joomla installation in joomla.org passing that cache part? what are they doing or not doing that i am not? what version of joomla are they using? what settings are they using? how is their server setup?

i hope that someone straight from joomla sees this and sheds light on this subject, because i highly dought any regular users will know the answer, but here's to hoping.

what do i need to do to my joomla sites so that the caching can pass in woorank? i already have global cache on. i tried it in "file" mode and "memory cache" mode. i tried with and without the system cache plugin enabled. i tried with and without sef url cache enabled. our server has memcached/memcache installed, with the pecl addon. i tried putting in mod_pagespeed module, but that didn't help, if anything it made the wordpress sites fail in the caching part.

i am at a loss. can anyone help with this issue/problem? is it that joomla 1.5 can't pass caching test no matter what? is it only joomla 2.5 or 3.0 that can pass because they are written better or something? please explain how i can make our joomla 1.5 sites pass caching test in woorank, or tell me that it's futile with joomla 1.5 and only 3.0 works (or possibly 2.5 as well).

some of our failing cache joomla site scans/reviews:
http://www.woorank.com/en/review/coastmailers.com
http://www.woorank.com/en/review/hi-techms.com
http://www.woorank.com/en/review/hi-techprinting.com

these 2 are wordpress and are on the same exact server, and they pass caching test:
http://www.woorank.com/en/review/automo ... ailers.com
http://www.woorank.com/en/review/dev.cardswipe.com

yes it's true that one of the wordpress sites uses the wp super cache plugin, and the other wordpress site uses the w3 total cache plugin, which most likely helps with the passing, but joomla's default cache feature isn't as good as the wordpress plugins, and i can't find any 3rd party cache extensions for joomla 1.5. i think there's one for joomla 2.5, but i don't think we will be upgrading to 2.5 or above for quite some time...........unless maybe you tell me that it's the only way the have better caching and that it passes in woorank.

please give me help, tips, tricks, advice. and if possible link back any more joomla sites that pass cache test in woorank, and explain why they pass.

thank you very much.
Last edited by learwbc4 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: woorank doesn't recognize caching in any of our joomla s

Post by learwbc4 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:04 pm

forgot to say that i tried putting in a bunch of stuff in htaccess, but still it's a no go. tried many different configurations, and maybe some of it helps some, but woorank still doesn't see that our joomla sites are leveraging caching. here are some things i tried putting in htaccess...

#### BEGIN Compress text files
<ifModule mod_deflate.c>
<filesMatch "\.(css|js|x?html?|php)$">
SetOutputFilter DEFLATE
</filesMatch>
</ifModule>
#### END Compress text files

#### BEGIN Expire headers
# Turn on Expires
ExpiresActive On
# Default Directive
ExpiresDefault "access plus 1 week"
# Favicon
ExpiresByType image/x-icon "access plus 1 year"
# Images
ExpiresByType image/gif "access plus 1 month"
ExpiresByType image/png "access plus 1 month"
ExpiresByType image/jpg "access plus 1 month"
ExpiresByType image/jpeg "access plus 1 month"
# CSS
ExpiresByType text/css "access plus 1 month"
# JavaScript
ExpiresByType application/javascript "access plus 1 year"
#### END Expire headers

#### BEGIN Cache-Control Headers
<ifModule mod_headers.c>
<filesMatch "\.(ico|jpe?g|png|gif|swf)$">
Header set Cache-Control "max-age=2592000, public"
</filesMatch>
<filesMatch "\.(css)$">
Header set Cache-Control "max-age=604800, public"
</filesMatch>
<filesMatch "\.(js)$">
Header set Cache-Control "max-age=604800, public"
</filesMatch>
<filesMatch "\.(x?html?|php)$">
Header set Cache-Control "max-age=604800, private, must-revalidate"
</filesMatch>
</ifModule>
#### END Cache-Control Headers

#### BEGIN Turn ETags Off
<ifModule mod_headers.c>
Header unset ETag
</ifModule>
FileETag None
#### END Turn ETags Off

#### BEGIN Remove Last-Modified Header
<ifModule mod_headers.c>
Header unset Last-Modified
</ifModule>
#### END Remove Last-Modified Header

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Re: woorank doesn't recognize caching in any of our joomla s

Post by learwbc4 » Tue May 28, 2013 8:53 pm

so no one knows this one?

basically if that's too much to read, i can simplify it like this:

what is proper and best way to implement caching in a joomla site?

hopefully you just don't say turn on caching in global config because that doesn't work.

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Re: woorank doesn't recognize caching in any of our joomla s

Post by dxter » Fri May 31, 2013 7:04 am

I do not know what woorank is doing to evaluate caching but when I run your websites through http://iwebchk.com the page speed part reported no real problems with caching. There are few resources that could have longer live span but you would not have control over it. Here is example for coastmailers.com:
• connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js (5.6 minutes)
• cdn.api.twitter.com/1/urls/count.json?url=http%3A%2F%... (15 minutes)
• apis.google.com/js/plusone.js (30 minutes)
• platform.twitter.com/widgets.js (30 minutes)
I think your sites are well optimized. Here is full report http://iwebchk.com/reports/view/coastmailers.com

Hope this helps.

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Re: woorank doesn't recognize caching in any of our joomla s

Post by lucyfrances » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:10 pm

http://www.rankdoor.com/www/joomla.org this website review report better .


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