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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by terrydangwa » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:39 am

thnx.it worked,was looking in components folder from the root directory.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by eznet » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:58 pm

There is any chance to remove phoca logo from cooliris ?
Thanks a lot.

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How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.4 Powered By Text in categor

Post by vymn » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:20 pm

open default.php in components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/tmpl/

search for this line:
Code:
echo '</form><div>&nbsp;</div>' . $this->tmpl['ts'].'</div>';


change it to:
Code:
echo '</form><div>&nbsp;</div></div>';


thats all =)

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.4 Powered By Text in cat

Post by eznet » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:57 am

vymn wrote:open default.php in components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/tmpl/

search for this line:
Code:
echo '</form><div>&nbsp;</div>' . $this->tmpl['ts'].'</div>';


change it to:
Code:
echo '</form><div>&nbsp;</div></div>';


thats all =)
In version 2.7.5 this code line simply does not exist. Thank you for your time.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.4 Powered By Text in cat

Post by vymn » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:33 pm

eznet wrote:
vymn wrote:open default.php in components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/tmpl/

search for this line:
Code:
echo '</form><div>&nbsp;</div>' . $this->tmpl['ts'].'</div>';


change it to:
Code:
echo '</form><div>&nbsp;</div></div>';


thats all =)
In version 2.7.5 this code line simply does not exist. Thank you for your time.

As i said it works 2.7.4 you r welcome any way.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.4 Powered By Text in cat

Post by phamdangnhuy » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:24 pm

:D
In version 2.7.5 you can find line code in file: components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/view.html.php

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        $tmpl['tm'] = '<div style="tex'
               .'t-align: center; color:#d3d3'
               .'d3;">Power'
               .'ed by <a href="htt'
               .'p://www.pho'
               .'ca.cz" style="text-decor'
               .'ation: none;" tar'.'get="_bl'
               .'ank" title="Ph'
               .'oca.cz">Phoc'
               .'a</a> <a href="http://www.p'
               .'hoca.cz/phocagallery" style="tex'
               .'t-decoration: none;" ta'.'rget="_bla'.'nk" title="Pho'.'ca Gal'
               .'lery">Gal'.'lery</a></div>';
and replace:

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$tmpl['tm'] = ' ';

Good luck ! :D
Last edited by phamdangnhuy on Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by Modest » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:30 pm

I think the easiest way is to modify Powered By Text of the text and links.
Two steps on it. Moreover, this method used in the latest version without any problem.
The key is simple, do not waste your time. :D

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.4 Powered By Text in cat

Post by masky007 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:23 pm

phamdangnhuy wrote::D
In version 2.7.5 you can find line code in file: components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/view.html.php

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        $tmpl['tm'] = '<div style="tex'
               .'t-align: center; color:#d3d3'
               .'d3;">Power'
               .'ed by <a href="htt'
               .'p://www.pho'
               .'ca.cz" style="text-decor'
               .'ation: none;" tar'.'get="_bl'
               .'ank" title="Ph'
               .'oca.cz">Phoc'
               .'a</a> <a href="http://www.p'
               .'hoca.cz/phocagallery" style="tex'
               .'t-decoration: none;" ta'.'rget="_bla'.'nk" title="Pho'.'ca Gal'
               .'lery">Gal'.'lery</a></div>';
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$tmpl['tm'] = ' ';

Good luck ! :D
this is not working on 2.7.5

$tmpl['tm'] it's not even there

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by kenmcd » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:52 pm

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In version 2.7.5 . . .
Find the file on the website:
joomla_root/components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/view.html.php
Or find the file in the installation package:
com_phocagallery_v2.7.5\front\views\categories\view.html.php

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$tmpl['phoac'] = '<div style="tex'.'t-align: center; color:#d3d3'.'d3;">Power'.'ed by <a href="htt'.'p://www.pho'.'ca.cz" style="text-decor'.'ation: none;" tar'.'get="_bl'.'ank" title="Ph'.'oca.cz">Phoc'.'a</a> <a href="http://www.p'
.'hoca.cz/phocagallery" style="tex'.'t-decoration: none;" ta'.'rget="_bla'.'nk" title="Pho'.'ca Gal'.'lery">Gal'.'lery</a></div>';
Change to :

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$tmpl['phoac'] = ' ';
Not tested.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by masky007 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:54 pm

Kenmcd i already tried that... is not working :( in category view and image view there is still the powered by.
None of the methods above are working.. I have tried others as well but nothing..

A solution for this would be very nice!

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by abmafo » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:30 pm

thanx

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by Markstein » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:21 am

:o Or just simply donate 5 dollars to Jan for his hard work and he will send you the files that remove the Powered by text. That is, after all, what he states on his website.

http://www.phoca.cz/support see section "Custom changes, Footer information"

http://www.phoca.cz/forum/viewtopic.php ... +by#p37593

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by masky007 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:35 am

not that it's alot but i do not have 5$.. and that thing which almost everyone is making today with free extension is something like this.. to be honest it feels lame. If you give the extension for free give it for free otherwise say i sell this thing.

And in couple of months i would have some cash to donate to him but not now and now when i have i wont because of these things. I mean i feel sorry and somehow evil doing this.. he have done some hard work .... but trust me people wont "donate" 5$ to remove the powered by.. but will donate if they see the component sweet.. personally to me FRUSTRATES ME ALLOT
just think about it.. if he says i sell this for 5 bucks (so powerful extension) aloooot will pay .. but like this.. his footer will get cracked in time and he will get blamed as well he wont get as much money.. (just think about this is not "That is, after all, what he states on his website." It's marketing and business tricks ( i am not that stupid to allow someone to sell these shitz to me - it just annoys me).

I am working on cracking this.. if someone do it before me please post it

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by kenmcd » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:38 am

masky007 wrote:Kenmcd i already tried that... is not working :( in category view and image view there is still the powered by.
None of the methods above are working.. I have tried others as well but nothing..

A solution for this would be very nice!
OK, I took a closer look.
It appears there are 4-5 different places where the link code is introduced, and then used in other places.

The category view link appears to be coming from:
On the website
joomla_root/administrator/components/com_phocagallery/libraries/phocagallery/render/renderfront.php
In the package
\com_phocagallery_v2.7.5\libraries\phocagallery\render\renderfront.php

There are two pieces of code to change in renderfront.php

Line 551
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return '<'.'d'.'i'.'v'.' '.'s'.'t'.'y'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'t'.'e'.'x'.'t'.'-'.'a'.'l'.'i'.'g'.'n'.':'.' '.'c'.'e'.'n'.'t'.'e'.'r'.';'.' '.'c'.'o'.'l'.'o'.'r'.':'.' '.'r'.'g'.'b'.'('.'2'.'1'.'1'.','.' '.'2'.'1'.'1'.','.' '.'2'.'1'.'1'.')'.';'.'"'.'>'.'P'.'o'.'w'.'e'.'r'.'e'.'d'.' '.'b'.'y'.' '.'<'.'a'.' '.'h'.'r'.'e'.'f'.'='.'"'.'h'.'t'.'t'.'p'.':'.'/'.'/'.'w'.'w'.'w'.'.'.'p'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'.'.'c'.'z'.'"'.' '.'s'.'t'.'y'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'t'.'e'.'x'.'t'.'-'.'d'.'e'.'c'.'o'.'r'.'a'.'t'.'i'.'o'.'n'.':'.' '.'n'.'o'.'n'.'e'.';'.'"'.' '.'t'.'a'.'r'.'g'.'e'.'t'.'='.'"'.'_'.'b'.'l'.'a'.'n'.'k'.'"'.' '.'t'.'i'.'t'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'P'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'.'.'c'.'z'.'"'.'>'.'P'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'<'.'/'.'a'.'>'.' '.'<'.'a'.' '.'h'.'r'.'e'.'f'.'='.'"'.'h'.'t'.'t'.'p'.':'.'/'.'/'.'w'.'w'.'w'.'.'.'p'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'.'.'c'.'z'.'/'.'p'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'g'.'a'.'l'.'l'.'e'.'r'.'y'.'"'.' '.'s'.'t'.'y'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'t'.'e'.'x'.'t'.'-'.'d'.'e'.'c'.'o'.'r'.'a'.'t'.'i'.'o'.'n'.':'.' '.'n'.'o'.'n'.'e'.';'.'"'.' '.'t'.'a'.'r'.'g'.'e'.'t'.'='.'"'.'_'.'b'.'l'.'a'.'n'.'k'.'"'.' '.'t'.'i'.'t'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'P'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.' '.'G'.'a'.'l'.'l'.'e'.'r'.'y'.'"'.'>'.'G'.'a'.'l'.'l'.'e'.'r'.'y'.'<'.'/'.'a'.'>'.'<'.'/'.'d'.'i'.'v'.'>';
to this

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return ' ';
Lines 686 to 700
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function getDivs(){
        return '<div style="tex'
               .'t-align: center; color:#d3d3'
               .'d3;">Power'
               .'ed by <a href="htt'
               .'p://www.pho'
               .'ca.cz" style="text-decor'
               .'ation: none;" tar'.'get="_bl'
               .'ank" title="Ph'
               .'oca.cz">Phoc'
               .'a</a> <a href="http://www.p'
               .'hoca.cz/phocagallery" style="tex'
               .'t-decoration: none;" ta'.'rget="_bla'.'nk" title="Pho'.'ca Gal'
               .'lery">Gal'.'lery</a></div>';
    }
to this

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function getDivs(){
        return ' ';
    }
Note I actually installed this component (as distasteful as that is) and created a category.
This last change removed the link in the category.
Since I do not use this component I have not tested if this removes all the links.

As I said above, the link code is found in 4-5 different places.
Some more fixes may be required.
Some may just be decoys.
Dunno.

Perhaps a "cleaned" version for download would be the way . . .

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by kenmcd » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:01 am

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One more fix, in the the category view.

On website
joomla_root/components/com_phocagallery/views/category/view.html.php
In package
\com_phocagallery_v2.7.5\front\views\category\view.html.php

Line 83

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$tmpl['lm'] = '<'.'d'.'i'.'v'.' '.'s'.'t'.'y'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'t'.'e'.'x'.'t'.'-'.'a'.'l'.'i'.'g'.'n'.':'.' '.'c'.'e'.'n'.'t'.'e'.'r'.';'.' '.'c'.'o'.'l'.'o'.'r'.':'.' '.'r'.'g'.'b'.'('.'2'.'1'.'1'.','.' '.'2'.'1'.'1'.','.' '.'2'.'1'.'1'.')'.';'.'"'.'>'.'P'.'o'.'w'.'e'.'r'.'e'.'d'.' '.'b'.'y'.' '.'<'.'a'.' '.'h'.'r'.'e'.'f'.'='.'"'.'h'.'t'.'t'.'p'.':'.'/'.'/'.'w'.'w'.'w'.'.'.'p'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'.'.'c'.'z'.'"'.' '.'s'.'t'.'y'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'t'.'e'.'x'.'t'.'-'.'d'.'e'.'c'.'o'.'r'.'a'.'t'.'i'.'o'.'n'.':'.' '.'n'.'o'.'n'.'e'.';'.'"'.' '.'t'.'a'.'r'.'g'.'e'.'t'.'='.'"'.'_'.'b'.'l'.'a'.'n'.'k'.'"'.' '.'t'.'i'.'t'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'P'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'.'.'c'.'z'.'"'.'>'.'P'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'<'.'/'.'a'.'>'.' '.'<'.'a'.' '.'h'.'r'.'e'.'f'.'='.'"'.'h'.'t'.'t'.'p'.':'.'/'.'/'.'w'.'w'.'w'.'.'.'p'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'.'.'c'.'z'.'/'.'p'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.'g'.'a'.'l'.'l'.'e'.'r'.'y'.'"'.' '.'s'.'t'.'y'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'t'.'e'.'x'.'t'.'-'.'d'.'e'.'c'.'o'.'r'.'a'.'t'.'i'.'o'.'n'.':'.' '.'n'.'o'.'n'.'e'.';'.'"'.' '.'t'.'a'.'r'.'g'.'e'.'t'.'='.'"'.'_'.'b'.'l'.'a'.'n'.'k'.'"'.' '.'t'.'i'.'t'.'l'.'e'.'='.'"'.'P'.'h'.'o'.'c'.'a'.' '.'G'.'a'.'l'.'l'.'e'.'r'.'y'.'"'.'>'.'G'.'a'.'l'.'l'.'e'.'r'.'y'.'<'.'/'.'a'.'>'.'<'.'/'.'d'.'i'.'v'.'>';
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$tmpl['lm'] = ' ';
These 4 changes should get rid of all the forced advertising.
(this post and in the 2 other posts above)

There is also code obfuscation of the Info area in the control panel.
I guess some people have been also removing any identification in the back-end.

I would also remove the automated phone-home advertising link in the control panel.
Really do not like any kind of phone-home without express permission, and which I cannot control (turn-off).

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by masky007 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:28 am

i will try this just to finish setting up my mail server.. thanks for finding the code for category view..
may i ask what gallery component you love?:P

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by masky007 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:21 am

this removed everything i can see on the front end.. thank you

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by Tubantix » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:36 am

If you add a class to the <div> instead of inline styles, you are able to change the layout of the credits and link. Phoca Gallery is a full free component, with great functionality. It is helpful to the maker to have a small link on the gallery page.
If you insert this code:

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<div class="phocacredit">Powered by <a href="http://www.phoca.cz" style="text-decoration: none;" target="_blank" title="Phoca.cz">Phoca</a> <a href="http://www.phoca.cz/phocagallery" style="text-decoration: none;" target="_blank" title="Phoca Gallery">Gallery</a></div>
and add a style to your css files like:

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.phocacredit {
	color:#eee;
	text-align:right;
	font-size:.7em;
}
.phocacredit a, .phocacredit a:link, .phocacredit a:visited, .phocacredit a:hover {
	color:#eee;
	text-decoration:none;
}
Your visitors hardly see the credit, but it will be indexed by searchbots and thus be helpful for Phoca :-)

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by masky007 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:46 am

Tubantix

i like your approach .. i may think about adding it ;)

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by Tubantix » Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:30 pm

Thanks, Masky007!
Don't forget that you probably add it in several files as described above.

Have you also considered changing the Phoca Gallery component titles from <div> to <h2>? It's off topic, but worth mentioning.
In the folders:
components/com_phocagallary/views/catagories/
components/com_phocagallary/views/catagory/
components/com_phocagallary/views/users/
change in 'default.php' the line for 'componentheading' the 'div' in 'h2'.

They're all in de subfolder 'tmpl'

Good luck!

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by hozefasmile » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:18 pm

Hi Friends,

The above code modification works well and it removes Powered by Phoca Gallery in the gallary page. But When I visit inside the gallary page to see the thumbnail of images, it again appears there. Is someone have solution for this? Many thanks in advance

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.4 Powered By Text in cat

Post by ohwhatafinish » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:25 pm

This works for 2.7.5 tested


masky007 wrote:
phamdangnhuy wrote::D
In version 2.7.5 you can find line code in file: components/com_phocagallery/views/categories/view.html.php

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        $tmpl['tm'] = '<div style="tex'
               .'t-align: center; color:#d3d3'
               .'d3;">Power'
               .'ed by <a href="htt'
               .'p://www.pho'
               .'ca.cz" style="text-decor'
               .'ation: none;" tar'.'get="_bl'
               .'ank" title="Ph'
               .'oca.cz">Phoc'
               .'a</a> <a href="http://www.p'
               .'hoca.cz/phocagallery" style="tex'
               .'t-decoration: none;" ta'.'rget="_bla'.'nk" title="Pho'.'ca Gal'
               .'lery">Gal'.'lery</a></div>';
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$tmpl['tm'] = ' ';

Good luck ! :D
this is not working on 2.7.5

$tmpl['tm'] it's not even there

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by xxsuna » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:03 am

i don't remember how meeeeny changes i have done to remove that ugly "commercial" but last change for CATEGORY in version 2.7.5 was:

file: //administrator/components/com_phocagallery/libraries/phocagallery/renderfront.php

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       	function getDivs(){
		return '<div style="tex'
			   .'t-align: center; color:#d3d3'
			   .'d3;">Power'
			   .'ed by <a href="htt'
			   .'p://www.pho'
			   .'ca.cz" style="text-decor'
			   .'ation: none;" tar'.'get="_bl'
			   .'ank" title="Ph'
			   .'oca.cz">Phoc'
			   .'a</a> <a href="http://www.p'
			   .'hoca.cz/phocagallery" style="tex'
			   .'t-decoration: none;" ta'.'rget="_bla'.'nk" title="Pho'.'ca Gal'
			   .'lery">Gal'.'lery</a></div>';

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	function getDivs(){
		return '<div></div>';
i thing that div is for nothing ... but is working.. no more touching :P

I do not understand why the Phoca team WHIMPER for money in this way. Your component is GREAT .one of the best. make it paid or something ....

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by PierreB » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:42 pm

I think this is not a very legitimate topic...

Phoca hosts so many -and mammoth- extensions which it gives for free.
Displaying a link back to the website is both a way to give credit and a way to make the Phoca community grow and help itself in the forum, so that developers can spend more time making a better software than answering demanding posts which can have straightforward answers.

You don't have to donate or buy it to use it, so why hide the credit text and link?

If it's a personal website, then it should not bother you...
if it is a professional website, and the phoca component helps to build it as you want and make it look as you want, attracting users/clients, then you should donate anyways...you're making money out of it
If you are a web developer and use Phoca in the sites you built for your customers but you hide the link, it's like taking credit (and getting paid extra) for another person's hard work. Have your clients pay a 5$ extra and donate it to those who do the job for you.

But you don't HAVE to donate...simply keep the powered by text...

This is not some small extension that every developer could produce with a little time...it's a big component which takes a lot of work to create and maintain and develop...placing a "powered by" text in this case is not just the arrogant self promotion of a developer, it's a necessity for the continued development and support of this component.

I am not at all into the "copyright" thing...but when credit is due and the software is free, then keeping that text is the least you can do.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by Tubantix » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:56 pm

Hi PierreB,

I think you're right by saying that it's not a big deal by having a credit displayed on your website. That's why I added a class to the credit, so that you can leave it on the page, but a little less prominent with a small ajustment to font-size and font-color in the css-style. I think it is legitimate to change the appearance of the credit. Even to hide it with a style (display:none;). It remains in the html, so that searchbots can still index the links for search results.

Phoca has amazing components for joomla websites. I'm all in favor of supporting them by a small credit on every phoca-page.

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Post by kenmcd » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:23 pm

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Thank you for pushing this thread to the top of the forum again.
Really helps the visibility.
Now more people will see it and be aware of the hacks available.

A few salient facts:

1. Unrelated outgoing links hurt your website SEO.
This is a known fact.
Any link to some unrelated extension website is damaging to SEO.
So the Phoca Gallery link is damaging to the host website SEO.

2. These links are not a big SEO benefit to the Phoca Gallery website.
Do these links come from a high value website for the desired search terms? No.
These links come from totally unrelated websites.
Do these links target some important search terms? No.
Gee does Phoca have a hard time ranking for "Phoca Gallery"?
<roll-eyes>
Any SEO expert will lecture you about link quality vs. link quantity.
Link quantity is only good for ego and bragging.
It has nothing to do with SEO.
So touting these links as some big SEO benefit to Phoca is nonsense.

3. Hiding the link with CSS is not a good idea.
See #1 and #2 above.
Both still apply.

4. This link is valuable to Phoca as advertising is nonsense.
Who is the target audience for this advertising?
All the users on the websites who will see this link at the bottom of a gallery page?
What are all these users also website developers who use Joomla?
That is utter nonsense.
The average user has no idea of why this link is there.
In fact is it a usability problem because of the confusion it causes.

This link is there for one reason – to force users to pay to remove it.


5. The GPL allows users to modify this extension without getting permission.
Some people think that using a tortured mis-interpretation of the GPL in order to justify forced advertising and then demand a fee to remove it is simply extortion.
And then sending in the shills or claiming the moral high-ground is just nonsense.
Building a business around a huge GPL ecosystem and then perverting the GPL for financial gain can also be seen as unacceptable behavior by some people.

6. The solution is simple.
Change the business model.
Charge for support, or for updates, or whatever.
No one is forcing anyone to give away extensions for free.
Commercial GPL is an option.
No one is stopping anyone from charging a fee.
If one does not like the using the free GPL ecosystem for distribution, don't.


Expecting everyone to support this perversion of the GPL on some silly moral high-ground argument
is simply never going to happen.
Get over it.
Change ones behavior if one does not like the consequences.


Again thanks for pushing this thread to the top again.
And thanks for making the next version hack a priority.
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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by PierreB » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:49 pm

1. Arguing that of all SEO factors those powered by links are causing trouble "is nonsense"

2. I made no such claim, if you're arguing generally, that's ok, if this supposedly answers some of my comments this "is nonsense"

3. ...

4. I came to know Phoca through such advertising...not all users are web developers but more and more users are going online with their own websites and blogs...and such visibility, as much "small return" as it may have, is important to the developers...as is giving a little hand in the forums...even a couple of eager forum members can make a difference.

I don't mind having the credit link and I am certainly not forced to pay anything.
Are you forced to pay for phpbb which places links? They will deny you support, supposedly, if you remove those links...Has Phoca's developer made any such statement?
I guess you should engage Joomla.org for keeping that powered by phpbb at the bottom of the forum you are posting in

5. Modify the extensions, of course you can do that...if you put your own work into it, well done, you have not just benefited yourself but probably the former developer also...if hiding the credit is all you have offered then, you might have to reconsider reorientating your habits towards something more constructive.
You can use it for financial gain (credits don't interfere with that), you can modify it and use it for financial gain...
..But directly or indirectly taking credit for something while making excuses to hide actual credits is not illegal in this case, but it says something about work ethics...if you produce something you care about it...you release it for other people to take advantage of it and help in its advancement...not all people will be able to contribute in all aspects or at all, but merely expanding the user base is beneficial.

6. Charge for support, of course...supposedly this is an argument against putting a credits link, as if putting that link and charging for support gets one the same money or is based on same intent (of making money). On the other hand, I don't believe this is beneficial to the users' community...if you get paid for offering support to businesses it's fine. If you require payment just to (try to) solve simple users' issues, I believe this leaves many people dissatisfied and frustrated.

If Phoca Gallery embeds a credit link, and especially if you criticize that, well you don't have to use this product, you can move along to some other software that meets your high criteria of supporting the true and pure GPL against those who mess it up.

I guess Phoca is acting against GPL by placing a credit link and you are a champion of GPL by trying to find ways to circumvent this...

I'll just add some more "nonsense" "nonsense" "nonsense" "nonsense" "nonsense" "nonsense" here since this seemingly enhances one's argumentation.

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.7.5 Powered By Text

Post by kenmcd » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:47 am

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I do not use Phoca Gallery.
Never have, probably never will.

Just got tired of listening to all the nonsense, ridiculous excuses, and rationalizations.

Hmmm . . . you did get me thinking though . . .
Maybe for the next version attaching the 3-4 cleaned files would make it easier for the average user by enabling them to simply replace the files instead of wading through code they do not understand.
That definitely does not break any forum rules.
Users have been attaching hacked files for over five years now.
Sounds like fun.

Geez, maybe even make a link to the cleaned full package.
That would be even easier because users could simply install the cleaned package.
Even though that is essentially the same thing as attaching files or posting some hacks,
that would certainly get some people all excited.
And another forum moderation debate is sure to ensue.
"And now folks another GPL vs. Protecting a Developer debate on center stage."
Do we continue with the long standing forum policy supporting the GPL (as it is written).
Or do we change this because the GPL is simply too painful for some people?
Oh, more fun ensues!

Let's continue having this wonderful discourse.
You keep posting excuses and rationalizations which just harden my resolve.
And I keep posting hacks to clean-out the junk.
Yippee!! Fun time!

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

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Re: How To Remove Phoca Gallery 2.6.0 Powered By Text

Post by H13 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:02 am

dumbass kid Jan Pavelka
???
aggressive extension developer
Sorry, I am developing my extensions in my freetime without any aggressiveness, so really don't understand it ???
Here is the deal dude, Joomla is Open Source. Joomla will stay Open Source. Extensions are free and Stay Free. If you have a problem with that
Yes, I understand, this is why I am developing free extensions, I have no problem with Joomla! and open source.
than accept that people will take your code and use it for free
I am accepting it and I like people use my extensions for free.
Don't force people to pay for it
Sorry, but maybe you mean other person, I am not forcing anybody to pay for something ???
break your bullshit
Really don't understand :-(
If you are trying to become rich as an extension developer than i suggest that you put your extension up as commercial and make your money the official way
I have my regular work and programming is my hobby, I don't expect to be rich from my hobby (anyway I don't need to be rich because of my incurable disease money means nothing :-) )
Luring people to your site
Sorry ???, I don't lure anybody, I don't do any marketing like adding ads on different sites or lure people to use something I did, etc. ???
things work in former communist countries
Maybe you don't understand how cummunism is working, so will be great, you will visit some of my lecture to get more information about economics :-) Born in communism means, you know the value of the freedom. My freedom is to make extensions exactly how I want (realeased under GPL and not violite it. The fact is, I am not breaking any GPL rule, moreover I help other people with their problems in my freetime and of course for free - just see Phoca forum). Your freedom is not to use the extension if you don't want. There are many other great extensions you can select. I am insignificant hobby developer not a monopolistic giant. You will be not restricted any ways by me.

Communism is when a large webdesign firm contacted me and threatened me that unless I change the name of the component according to their wishes, then they devalue my name on the forum and attack my site ... this is a real communism - someone is working and the other is trying to collect jobless benefits from the work of others.


One question on you: Will you write such post full of untruths if you will be not anonymous here in the forum?

Anyway you should try to search discussions made by me, instance, kenmcd or Brian where we are talking about our opinions to this issue, you can find there the reasons why some of Phoca extensions include a link, so you will be more informed and not write some untruths you have written.

Thank you for understanding.

Jan
- Phoca Cart - Joomla eCommerce App - https://www.phoca.cz/phocacart
- Phoca Gallery - powerful image gallery
- Phoca Restaurant Menu - https://www.phoca.cz/phocamenu
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