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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:03 pm 
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Hi,

I must install an e-commerce website. I hesitate between 2 solutions: Magento and Joomla (Virtuemart). I’d like to know which one is the better for my website and what should I ask to develop specifically (up to the solution chosen, Magento or Joomla).

I need those specificities:
- Multi-publishers management (Each affiliated person could manage its own part of the website. In a first time, the website won’t sell anything. ‘Publisher’ won’t be ‘sellers’ on line. They wouldn’t be able to sell anything on-line. They would only be able to display some products and a description of themselves)
- Multi-seller management (In a second time, publishers would become sellers, up to their wishes and type of subscription).
- Ability to display/sell a determined number of products (each publisher/seller could display/sell a determined number of product. This number would be determined by their subscription. Ex : x€ per month = 1 business description + 10 objects edition ; y€ per month = 1 business description + 50 object for selling on line).
- Standard formatting (the publishers/sellers could only use some pre-defined formatting in order to get a right usability. The finale users must easily know where they can find the right information on each page)
- Multilingual (website will be in different language but each language would be on its own domain (.com, .de, .fr,…). Every websites would be on the same database).
- Advanced Search (keyword, categories, sellers, country,…)

Thanks to let me know which ‘functions’ I’ll have to ask to develop specifically for each CMS (Magento, Joomla). And, you can also let me know, by private message, if you feel able to develop those components.

Thanks for your help!


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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:41 pm 
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Hi there,

I have Magento on one of my shopping sites and Zen Cart and 2 others. I find Magento the most sophisticated shopping cart out there, BUT it's the most fraustrating shopping cart I have ever had to deal with. I'm not sure if it meets your needs, but in comparision, I would say Magento is not for the weak hearted. Very little support in the forum. I think because most are new to it as well so no true experts. Lots of bugs with no answers on when or where they will get updated. The template system is tricky at first, but eventually you understand it.

I do like the email templates - these can be updated within the admin section (not so in ZenCart) and it's very user friendly.

I can't stand the fact that if I sell different options, I can't use and image when creating an options field (radio buttons or checkbox) nor can I add a link to a page that will show the images...

Magento is nice... but man, there is a lot of working around. I would scan the forums and see how many are answered.

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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:05 pm 
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Joomla is a CMS Magento is a shopping cart. They are 2 different things.

As for Joomla shopping carts, have you taken a look at the ones listed on the Extensions site yet?

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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:23 am 
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There is no comparison, Joomla any day, I have used Joomla for quite a few ecommerce websites I then came across Magento, unfortunately without first trying it out , and I kind of sold the idea of Magento to a client of mine, so I am stuck with it, for one project.

I have had nothing but trouble! So many bugs, permission issues, nothing has gone smoothly, after lots of work I think I have a stable’ish version, well only if I run a Magento cleaning script, every time I do anything,.

That is just the installation of Magento, I then start to create the site, presuming that I can have very basic functionality such as (featured product list) (product/feature sliders) (ask question about this product) the list goes on and on, basic features that are already in place within virtuemart! Well within Magento you will need to pay on average $89.99 and up, per feature, only unstable and out of date extensions appear free.

Judging by my experience I would suggest stick with Joomla, far easier to use, far easier to setup, and more stable, and best of all………..cheaper.


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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:11 am 
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martin000001 wrote:
There is no comparison, Joomla any day, I have used Joomla for quite a few ecommerce websites I then came across Magento, unfortunately without first trying it out , and I kind of sold the idea of Magento to a client of mine, so I am stuck with it, for one project.

I have had nothing but trouble! So many bugs, permission issues, nothing has gone smoothly, after lots of work I think I have a stable’ish version, well only if I run a Magento cleaning script, every time I do anything,.

That is just the installation of Magento, I then start to create the site, presuming that I can have very basic functionality such as (featured product list) (product/feature sliders) (ask question about this product) the list goes on and on, basic features that are already in place within virtuemart! Well within Magento you will need to pay on average $89.99 and up, per feature, only unstable and out of date extensions appear free.

Judging by my experience I would suggest stick with Joomla, far easier to use, far easier to setup, and more stable, and best of all………..cheaper.


I have had a TOTALLY different experience, but then I've been working with Magento since it came out of beta more than a year ago. Perhaps you just didn't have good documentation to work with. Click on the link in my signature.

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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:35 am 
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I have to lean towards recommending Magento for a heavy ecommerce site only because VirtueMart looks abandoned. Check out the virtuemart blog entry for the 1.1.4 release if you doubt it.

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:01 pm 
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If you get stuck with Magento try www.maglance.com

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:55 pm 
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magento is an extensive complete will made shopping system.
if your project is a for shopping "only", go for magento, its amazing.

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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:16 am 
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I agree with vtoshach (Magento as most comprehensive and most frustrating) and it's quite resource demanding as well.

It takes lot of time to get under the cover, looking for hacks on the forum, undocumented features, sometimes there is no documentation for features in new releases, but I believe if you get over those - then there are no limits.

My custom component ceased to work after a minor update and there was no info in release notes, but somehow I managed to find a solution..


Devs are promising great CMS features in upcoming enterprise edition, but the price plans are way too expenisve for my actual clients (8.900USD/ year, http://www.magentocommerce.com/product/compare). If you are about to develop ecommerce + cms site, you may try Wordpress plugin or Joomla bridge, but for next client I decided for Joomla + Virtuemart.

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:56 am 
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You will find a big big difference between Joomla! and Magento. Mainly because of the origin of the project, both are Open Source, but... Joomla! has a big community, very committed with the project. In my little experience with Magento I can predict that you will feel alone in the Magento's forum.


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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:41 pm 
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Features: Magento>Zencart>Virtuemart
Ease & support:Zencart>Virtuemart>Magento

Suggestion: Go with Zencart :-)

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:00 pm 
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Joomla all the way! It has also shopping cart extensions


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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:43 am 
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Hi. I've recently I came across a JooZen component, which is an integration of Zen Cart into Joomla. I don't have much experience with either of those but thought it may be of interest to you.

You may also check out Best E-Commerce Shopping Cart? thread. It has good discussion about other Joomla shopping cart extensions.


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Joomla and Magento has intergrated, check out JMint!

http://community.joomla.org/blogs/commu ... ement.html


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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:35 am 
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kdmonk1 wrote:
Joomla and Magento has intergrated, check out JMint!

http://community.joomla.org/blogs/commu ... ement.html


Really nice info, many thanks.. i'm very lucky to take a look in this thread ;)

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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:42 pm 
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Magento is too complicated for newbies.All the way joomla :)

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:37 pm 
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brad wrote:
Joomla is a CMS Magento is a shopping cart. They are 2 different things.

As for Joomla shopping carts, have you taken a look at the ones listed on the Extensions site yet?



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