Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
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Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
I think... maybe?
I know nothing about Windows servers. I have only basic FTP access to the server. The guy administering the server knows nothing about Joomla or CMS's, and I'm not sure he knows much about websites at all. He knows his IT though, and between us we have a Joomla site up and running on the server.
I have had success installing components etc, although it seems like there is usually a minor problem with the installation (subsequent configuration?). Any changes I want to make to the template HTML/CSS or Global Config file (etc) I have to do manually because it tells me Joomla is unable to write to the file.
This has been fine up until now, but they want to add a second language to the site. I was able to install Joom!Fish, but it isn't working for the same reasons, and in this case I don't know where or what to change via FTP. I have had the same problems trying to create a form using ChronoContact. Anytime Joomla has to write to a file.
I have used both Fetch and CyberDuck as FTP clients, and they don't show me anything at all about directory/file permissions, so I have no idea what is going on there. The administrator assures me they are correct.
To sum up: Joomla is able to upload and install directories/files, but is apparently unable to modify existing files.
Can anyone suggest or point me toward a "checklist" addressing these symptoms that I could pass along to the administrator?
He used these links as instructions for setting up the server:
http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutori ... i-php.html
http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutori ... r-pt3.html
I'm sorry if this has been addressed already and exhaustively, but I'm not even sure what to do a search for.
Thank you,
-grutz
I know nothing about Windows servers. I have only basic FTP access to the server. The guy administering the server knows nothing about Joomla or CMS's, and I'm not sure he knows much about websites at all. He knows his IT though, and between us we have a Joomla site up and running on the server.
I have had success installing components etc, although it seems like there is usually a minor problem with the installation (subsequent configuration?). Any changes I want to make to the template HTML/CSS or Global Config file (etc) I have to do manually because it tells me Joomla is unable to write to the file.
This has been fine up until now, but they want to add a second language to the site. I was able to install Joom!Fish, but it isn't working for the same reasons, and in this case I don't know where or what to change via FTP. I have had the same problems trying to create a form using ChronoContact. Anytime Joomla has to write to a file.
I have used both Fetch and CyberDuck as FTP clients, and they don't show me anything at all about directory/file permissions, so I have no idea what is going on there. The administrator assures me they are correct.
To sum up: Joomla is able to upload and install directories/files, but is apparently unable to modify existing files.
Can anyone suggest or point me toward a "checklist" addressing these symptoms that I could pass along to the administrator?
He used these links as instructions for setting up the server:
http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutori ... i-php.html
http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutori ... r-pt3.html
I'm sorry if this has been addressed already and exhaustively, but I'm not even sure what to do a search for.
Thank you,
-grutz
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
From my post at
http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=543&t=346249
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IIS7 is a total revamp of IIS, where IIS6 was just a demo of what was to come, and spends a lot of time, IMO, showing off how well it can keep a web site from functioning by default and equally how much more interesting and time consuming an administrator's life will be by throwing in poorly documented and syntactically obtuse powershell scripting requirements to access certain functions.
IIS7 really tries to keep the server safe from the installed web site but seems to have yet to get the idea of sandboxing and and service/system user visibility so that you can figure out exactly what service is touching what file and how.
Combine that with Joomla's file read/write requirements across various folders and a requirement for individual files to that need to be written to in questionable locations.
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And I like Joomla!
http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=543&t=346249
I realize that phpbb is not a CMS.I had to apply some really unsafe settings to get joomla to work on IIS7:
1. IUSR full control to joomla and subfolders
2. IIS_USRS full control to joomla and subfolders
(one of these should go away)
3. IUSR full control sessions
4. IIS_USRS full control sessions
(one of these should go away)
5. Deleted manual PHP installation and use msi installer
6. add phprc=application path to evenironement
7. Fixed all manual reference for php
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I Have to figure out what I can remove and lock down before I would consider putting this on a public facing server.--
The phpbb backup site running on the same server didn't require any of this to function.
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IIS7 is a total revamp of IIS, where IIS6 was just a demo of what was to come, and spends a lot of time, IMO, showing off how well it can keep a web site from functioning by default and equally how much more interesting and time consuming an administrator's life will be by throwing in poorly documented and syntactically obtuse powershell scripting requirements to access certain functions.
IIS7 really tries to keep the server safe from the installed web site but seems to have yet to get the idea of sandboxing and and service/system user visibility so that you can figure out exactly what service is touching what file and how.
Combine that with Joomla's file read/write requirements across various folders and a requirement for individual files to that need to be written to in questionable locations.
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And I like Joomla!
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
Thanks V,
I've passed this along to the server admin. I guess they can decide whether they want to expose their server or have an alternate language.
Also, thank you for the insightful description of IIS. Although I have little and only superficial experience with it, I was already beginning to think the same thing. Though I could never have put it so poetically:
-grutz
I've passed this along to the server admin. I guess they can decide whether they want to expose their server or have an alternate language.
Also, thank you for the insightful description of IIS. Although I have little and only superficial experience with it, I was already beginning to think the same thing. Though I could never have put it so poetically:
Brilliant.IIS7 is a total revamp of IIS, where IIS6 was just a demo of what was to come, and spends a lot of time, IMO, showing off how well it can keep a web site from functioning by default and equally how much more interesting and time consuming an administrator's life will be by throwing in poorly documented and syntactically obtuse powershell scripting requirements to access certain functions.
-grutz
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
I'm still more comfortable with a keyboard than I am with a mouse but, MSWx helped me forget more about CLI than I ever wanted to.
It almost feels like spite to see the CLI coming back into its own on the MSWx platform.
It almost feels like spite to see the CLI coming back into its own on the MSWx platform.
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
I've just completed setting up my Vista client which is very similar to a Win2K8 install. I ran into the permissions issue but was able to overcome that and the process I used is as secure as I've been able to figure out. Check out the following link and read the 3rd post:
http://forums.iis.net/p/1157696/1903925.aspx#1903925
That should get your Joomla running securely on IIS7 and Windows Server 2008.
http://forums.iis.net/p/1157696/1903925.aspx#1903925
That should get your Joomla running securely on IIS7 and Windows Server 2008.
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
usually joomla installs and uploads to temp directories to server so possibly there are two reasons for it
1. joomla is uploading all those compo or mods etc to temp directory which is 755(writable)
2. the file you are trying to modify are not in temp directory and they are unwritable (644 )
what you can do here is first chmod all files to 755 manually then try to reconfigure it
1. joomla is uploading all those compo or mods etc to temp directory which is 755(writable)
2. the file you are trying to modify are not in temp directory and they are unwritable (644 )
what you can do here is first chmod all files to 755 manually then try to reconfigure it
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
I had some issue related to this topic but Thanks God! its issued. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
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Re: Windows 2008 Server IIS7 Joomla Write Permissions?
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I guess the php to web server interface is of the wrong type on the server.
I guess the php to web server interface is of the wrong type on the server.