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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:16 pm 
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Running Joomla 1.7.3 on Linux.

After watching a video on what's new in Joomla 1.7 yesterday, I decided to use the Redirect component to set a link for a PDF on our site. (Still haven't accomplished that.)

I opened the component and found a bunch of old links, useless links and began deleting them, pages of them. Then I noticed that they were all JEvents links. That's odd because I'm not using JEvents on this site! The 1.5 version did use JEvents. (I used SPUpgrade to convert.) However, I didn't install JEvents on the new 1.7 site. (We switched to a registration component instead.)

I continued deleting, but it was going very slowly. I decided to switch the number of links listed to "all" so I could just get it done. That produced an error message. (Sorry I don't recall the exact message; it was a white page with just a couple lines of text and there was something about too much data or lack of memory/resources.) With the component now set to show "all" redirect links, it could not show the admin redirect component because the volume was more than the system could handle. I could go to other parts of the admin, but redirect component always resulted in an error.

Using PHPAdmin, I was able to delete the links a couple thousand at a time - all 95,000+ of them!

So now I'm able to get back into the Redirect component and have reset it to only show 100 links at a time.

I double-checked (admin console + FTP files) to make sure that JEvents is not installed. It is not. (Full disclosure: I had the old 1.5 site residing in a folder in the root folder. It does have JEvents in it, but Joomla 1.7 shouldn't be accessing that, right? The folder was named "15", but I've renamed it to "15-old" to prevent any confusion with IDs on the 1.7 site. I've since moved it out of the public_html folder.)

Global cache is OFF. Turned the redirect plugin off.

Wanting to find where the problem was, I turned the Redirect plugin on again, viewed the site, checked the component again and found ... over 100 links! All of them are for JEvents.

Here are a few samples:
component/jevents/day.listevents/2011/02/04/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=month.calendar&catids=4&month=07&year=2012&Itemid=0

component/jevents/day.listevents/2011/02/05/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=month.calendar&month=01&year=2013&Itemid=0

component/jevents/day.listevents/2007/06/07/4

http://www.(sitename here)/component/jevents/day.listevents/2013/03/09/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=month.calendar&month=01&year=2011&Itemid=0

(I'd rather not list the domain in case this is a security issue.)

The last one is especially confusing because when I look at folders via FTP, there is no 'jevents' folder under 'components' in the root folder. ('com_jevents' is not in the root/components folder, either.)

There is no "New URL" or "Referring Page" for any of the current links. The status is "Unpublished." However, when I was deleting from the database, I noticed a few statuses of "-2" and saw one new URL that has nothing to do with our site, certainly not anything I put in there. (Security issue, perhaps?)

Cleared the 100+ links. Cleared browser cache. (Global cache for the site if off.) Did a few page views in the front end, and now there are dozens of new redirect URLs again.

Is this a bug, possibly a security bug (since one redirect link was set to another site)?

Any ideas why these links keep appearing in the redirect list ... where they are coming from?

Teresa


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:59 am 
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trusting wrote:
Any ideas why these links keep appearing in the redirect list ... where they are coming from?


Search engines, other websites.
Make sure the links are redirected properly, and the search engines will eventually drop those links.
Put one redirect in the htaccess file for all the Jevents links rather than many redirects in the Redirect component.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:27 am 
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Thanks, Ken. Can you show me how I would redirect all those Jevents links at once at .htaccess? I'd guess that would be a 301 redirect, but I'm not sure how to write it.

I'll definitely add the redirect to .htaccess, but it has to be something other than search engines causing the problem. When I cleared the redirects, then refreshed the site, and looked at the redirects again, there were several in just seconds; another refresh or page click on the site, and a bunch more redirects. We wouldn't be getting hit by a couple dozen search engines in just a few minutes.

Also, I don't even have JEvents installed on this site. It was installed on the 1.5 precursor, but was never installed on the 1.7 version.

Puzzled ....


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:28 am 
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What you do to the website only has an indirect effect on the incoming links.

For example:
This website does not display JEvents on any menus:
http://www.HearingFromGodNow.org

But a search on Google shows many incoming JEvents links are still in their index:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.HearingFromGodNow.org
"About 5,010 results (0.05 seconds)"

And those links appear to work (the ones I tested still worked).
So it would appear JEvents is still installed on that website even though it is not on a menu.
The search engines will not remove links that still work.

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