Migrating from 1.5.23 to 1.7

alpinevp · Post by **alpinevp** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:38 pm

What is the latest for all of the rest of us that have been patiently waiting for y'all to finally get this development cycle in check? Meaning - how are we to migrate up to 1.7 from 1.5.23?

BoardBoss · Post by **BoardBoss** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:44 pm

First, let me state that I am not part of the Joomla development team, so I am not answering in any official capacity. I am speaking from my experience and understanding of "the way things are."

As I understand it, officially, there is not currently, nor will there ever be, a path or tool to migrate from Joomla 1.5.x to 1.6.x/1.7.x. Bummer! What does that mean? It means either the Joomla folks will have to change their position, or some enterprising individuals or company will create a gratis or commercial application to accomplish the task.

That said, be careful before making the jump to 1.6.x or 1.7.x. Many extensions are not yet compatible with the newer Joomla versions, including some big names. Some will likely never work with Joomla 1.6.x, since it will see an end of life for support in less than 30 days. Some are already working with the latest Joomla 1.7 release. I would recommend checking via the developer's Website and not via the JED for extension compatibility.

Good luck!

alpinevp · Post by **alpinevp** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:13 pm

I completely stayed away from 1.6 for all of the obvious reasons. Clearly though, with 1.7 there is a concise path that Joomla has defined and it looks like it's going to be a good path in deed. I just want to get my 1.5.23's up to date.

ShaneRoach · Post by **ShaneRoach** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:49 pm

I too was under the impression that there was supposed to be a direct migration tool for getting 1.5.23 migrated to 1.7. I would like to add my little voice to the crowd in requesting that perhaps this thread be made a repository for references to that issue, and eventually perhaps some instructions.

If we are not to have a good tool for the upgrade, could someone please just let me know what would be the general path to doing it manually? I don't want to wait until Joomla 2.0 and suddenly find myself irrevocably left in the dust....

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:07 pm

http://docs.joomla.org/Migrating_from_J ... Joomla_1.6

Griz · Post by **Griz** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:40 pm

Nick Savov wrote:http://docs.joomla.org/Migrating_from_J ... Joomla_1.6

I'm using that document as my guide, as I'm about to take the plunge from 1.5.23 to 1.6. But it leaves me with a question or two...

I'm in a decent situation for the upgrade, because my site is not extremely active at this time. I simply don't have as much at risk as many of you I'm sure do. And I need some features that 1.6+ has to offer. So I'm willing to risk a bit and proceed with the upgrade...after full backups of course.

But I still hope to "control the damage" as much as possible. Here are the questions I still have after going through the article and doing some planning:

* My template has a version for Joomla 1.6+, but instructions are few and I don't know how/when I should upload it. Would I possibly install the 1.6 template into the 1.5 installation? Or do you think I would do the 1.6 update and then install the 1.6 template afterwards?

* Sort of related type question - A couple of my key addons have 1.6 versions available now, but again, they are a separate set of files. Do I simply install AFTER migrating to 1.6+? Or somehow upload/install into my 1.5 site.

I know these questions might sound sort of basic or silly, and maybe I haven't worded them very well. I don't mind having some (or a lot of) work to do after the migration outlined in the procedure, but I want to avoid as much work as possible.

Any help appreciated.

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:39 am

Hi Griz,

I would recommend installing the 1.6 template after migrating. The nice thing about using jUpgrade is that you get a test site (it creates the 1.6 site in a subfolder) without risking your live site.

As to the extensions, it really depends on how the developers decided to best handle upgrades. I would check individually for each extensions and use the route that the developer recommends.

Kind regards,
Nick

Griz · Post by **Griz** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:22 pm

Thanks, Nick.

That was pretty much what I've been thinking, but I've been looking for this sort of feedback.

And yeah...the subfolder installation, leaving the live site intact, is the feature that really is giving me the courage to take the plunge!

By the way, just in case you might have any advice or experience with them, my template is Gavick's Memovie, and my main extensions are a couple of Gavick's, including News Pro GK4, 3DWebDesign's Joomla Aggregator Pro, Jomsocial, Kunena and Easyblog.

Again...because my site hasn't been "live" long I have little data and having a to re-install extensions and "cleanup"...a LOT...is something I'm pretty much expecting...heheh. I've discovered I really need a couple of the key features of 1.6...like ACL's...and I figure now is the time rather than AFTER I'm more established and entrenched.

Thanks again.

Nick Savov wrote:Hi Griz,

I would recommend installing the 1.6 template after migrating. The nice thing about using jUpgrade is that you get a test site (it creates the 1.6 site in a subfolder) without risking your live site.

As to the extensions, it really depends on how the developers decided to best handle upgrades. I would check individually for each extensions and use the route that the developer recommends.

Kind regards,
Nick

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:27 pm

Hi Griz,

Although most extensions (my guess is around 99% of the 2200 1.6 native extensions) will work as they did in 1.6, unfortunately you seem to have picked out the ones that don't.

Last I knew, Kunena and Easy blog both had issues. The Gavick templates also might have issues since they are based on T3 and T3 1.7 compatibility will be available within a few days. Kunena last I knew was releasing a new compatible version in a "few days". Easy blog fixed compatibility in 1 day:
http://stackideas.com/blogs/entry/easyb ... la-17.html

So in summary, wait a few days before attempting things

Kind regards,
Nick

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:45 pm

I believe Jupgrade allows upgrading to 1.7 from 1.5.23

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:01 pm

Correct, it does.

Kind regards,
Nick

pearlcaviar · Post by **pearlcaviar** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:01 am

Hi Nick,
I hope you're expert in using jupgrade. I use jupgrade to migrate from 1.5 to 1.7 and work everything perfect. I'm using phpMyAdmin, and when I check there I saw two different groups of database jos_ & j17_. I'm sure start with j17_ are the Joomla 1.7. So is it save to delete the jos_ database and what else should I modify?

Regards,

Nick Savov wrote:Correct, it does.

Kind regards,
Nick

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:05 pm

Hi pearlcaviar,

I'm not an expert :P But you can delete the jos_ prefixed tables if you're completely sure everything is working well and you have things the way you want them. Always be sure to have a backup though (as a just in case).

Kind regards,
Nick

pearlcaviar · Post by **pearlcaviar** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:28 am

Hi Nick,

I have one more question. After I migrated, I couldn't uninstall all the extensions from J1.5. I even check the File Manager to uninstall manually, but those extensions are not there. Do you have any idea how to solve?

Regards,

Nick Savov wrote:Hi pearlcaviar,

I'm not an expert :P But you can delete the jos_ prefixed tables if you're completely sure everything is working well and you have things the way you want them. Always be sure to have a backup though (as a just in case).

Kind regards,
Nick

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:31 pm

Hi pearlcaviar,

Do you mean from your 1.7 install? Did you go to extensions >> manage >> select >> unisntall?

Kind regards,
Nick

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:46 pm

How did you upgrade ? I don't think any upgrade method transfers or upgrades the 3rd party extensions. You will need to look at the sites for those extensions to check if they have 1.7 versions. If they have then you can download then install to your 1.7. Look them up in JED to find out their download links.

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:55 pm

jUpgrade can migrate Kunena and AdminPraise, and other extensions if developers implement it:
http://matware.com.ar/jfiles/Developers ... pgrade.pdf

But yeah, 2 out of 7000 is not a very good rate so practically none

Kind regards,
Nick

pearlcaviar · Post by **pearlcaviar** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:35 am

Even though the extension are not function on 1.7, jUpgrade transfers all the list from 1.5. Extensions >> Manage >> Uninstall doesn't work.

So here is what I did: http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?p=2576456

To delete exactly the extension that you can't uninstall, do this step.

1) Copy the ID Number (last column) from your Joomla Extensions.
2) Go to phpMyAdmin, and search for the ID Number that you copied from Joomla Extensions.
3) Delete when you find it, and this is the easiest and accurate step to do it.

Cheers!

Nick Savov wrote:Hi pearlcaviar,

Do you mean from your 1.7 install? Did you go to extensions >> manage >> select >> unisntall?

Kind regards,
Nick

Nick Savov · Post by **Nick Savov** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:43 am

Awesome! I'm glad you got it sorted, pearlcaviar!

Cheers,
Nick

cvandijk3 · Post by **cvandijk3** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:13 pm

I'm hoping someone will see this reply at the end of this post. I'm trying to migrate to joomla 1.7 from 1.5.23. I installed the lastest version of jupgrade. I made sure the system mootools upgrade is enabled. I also enabled the curl modules for PHP. After installing jupgrade, I went to the component. In the setting window, I made sure joomla 1.7 was selected and the tables were j17_. The component started up but was hung up on Decompressing package when I used IE, so I switched to Firefox and the system said upgrade was "successful". But when I click on the 2 links at the bottom of the page to view site and admin page, I get an error: Table 'joomla_ylk66hdj_myutilitydomain_com.j17_session' doesn't exist SQL=INSERT INTO `j17_session` (`session_id`, `client_id`, `time`) VALUES ('1e392df7eae2cc14f123e0848127478a', 0, 1313958650)

Also, when I click on the links at the bottom of the Jupgrade page, "jupgraded" is added to the url. When I check the root directory, there is a folder called "jupgrade", I even tried deleting that incase it was like the installation folder. But that was not the right solution because the jupgrade doesn't work now.

If I just go to the site directly, the update doesn't seem to be happening. What am I doing wrong. I read other people's post and for some people it works like a dream, for others, not so easy.

ViolinSugar · Post by **ViolinSugar** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:38 pm

I get the same error when trying to migrate with JUpdate from 1.5.23 to 1.7. I am very puzzled because there's seems to be no other way to migrate... hhhmmm

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:27 pm

There are 2 others http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... -migration

ViolinSugar · Post by **ViolinSugar** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:27 pm

Thanks! I am trying J2xml exporter and importer. I want to go from 1.5.23 to 1.7, but it only exports it to 1.6, according to what I see. Any ideas? Thanks so much for the tip!

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:51 pm

ViolinSugar wrote:.... but it only exports it to 1.6, according to what I see. Any ideas? ....

If it updates to 1.6.5 or 1.6.6 then you can try the Joomla auto update. Perhaps http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... tion/14087 may be the answer after upgrading to 1.6

One thing for sure, keep a good backup of your original safe. You may need to try the upgrade several times until you find a way that works for you.

ViolinSugar · Post by **ViolinSugar** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:14 pm

Thanks for the useful advice! I replicated (test live site) my site and trying to install on that.

I am trying to export and import with J2XML and get errors when I try to import the xml file to 1.6.6:

File format unknown. Impossible to import file.

I tried it with a zipped and normal xml files... same thing. Any ideas of what may cause this?

I appreciate your help!

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:22 pm

So you installed http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... port/12816 into 1.5.23

Checked all the Articles and exported them to an xml file

Then in a fresh 1.6.6 you installed http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... tion/15807 and tried to import the xml file in that ?

Worked for me as did the Joomla auto update.

ViolinSugar · Post by **ViolinSugar** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:15 pm

Yes, exactly what i did and didn't work... Is there any particular settings I have to pay attention to? I examined all I thought I needed to checked for the import. Any solutions in mind? Thanks!

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:42 pm

I made sure the red was green by activating them. Set them back after.

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ViolinSugar · Post by **ViolinSugar** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:27 am

Thanks Webdongle! I did checked those settings... Am I supposed to set them like the screenshot? I turned Web Services on.

Webdongle · Post by **Webdongle** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:09 am

ViolinSugar wrote:... Am I supposed to set them like the screenshot? ....

No, I turned them all on. That is how I set them back after I had finished (just in case being on made the site more 'open'

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