Error "Edit not permitted"

[Vlade]

Hi,

It seems like problem started after last update to 3.6.2.

Before that, users could create, delete and edit articles at the backend,
but now when article is clicked for editing an error message shows at the top of the article list:

"Error
Edit not permitted."

It is still possible to delete article and create a new one.

What could be the problem?

Thank you in advance.

[itoctopus]

There are 2 issues that might be causing this problem:

- Corruption in the ACL (access control list)
- Corruption in the assets table

Backup your website and try fixing both. For the ACL you can use the ACL Manager extension, and for the assets, you can follow this official guide: https://docs.joomla.org/Fixing_the_assets_table

Just make sure that you backup your website (especially the database) once you do this - this is a very dangerous area and it might cause serious issues if things go wrong there.

[Vlade]

Thank you very much for your post.

I tried your suggestion. There is no problem in the assets table.

As for the ACL, I did not buy the ACL manager extension, because I don't now how it would help. I have a user in a user group which inherited "not allowed" setting from its parent (Public), for every action except Access Admin Interface. Further, this usergroup is allowed every action in Category X, which results in calculated Allowed for every action for the Articles in this Category.

However, when this user clicks on the article for edit, it throws up "Edit not permitted" Error.

If I change Global or Article component settings to allow edit for this user group, then user can edit articles from Category X, but off course, also every other article from every other category which I don't want.

Now, today I figured that few days ago, an update process (3.6.1 to 3.6.2) was started but not finished (I foolishly missed to deny access to admin interface in Global config , so one of my users thought it would be fun to check wath's that button for, pressed it, and then panicked and stopped the process. Totally my fault .).

I tried to reinstall 3.6.2 version through admin and directly on server but the problem is always the same.

Do you still think ACL would help, or something else can be done.

Thank you in advance.

[JAVesey]

It is still possible to delete article and create a new one.

Maybe I'm being a bit dim here but:

1. Is this with all (existing) articles or only a few?
2. Front-end and/or back-end editing?
3. Are all your articles "checked-in"?
4. In admin, have you tried Extensions --> Database --> Fix? Whilst you're there, anything showing in "Warnings"?

I'm a big fan of ACL Manager; the modest cost for a 6 month subscription is well worth it in time saved if your issue really is ACL related. It will also fix your asset table; you'll be amazed at the number of errors when you first run it - at least, I was

I tried to reinstall 3.6.2 version through admin and directly on server but the problem is always the same.

Can you check /logs/joomla_update.php - what does the last line say?

[Vlade]

Hello John,

thank you very much for your reply.

1. Is this with all (existing) articles or only a few?

1. This is issue with all articles - also with the newly created.

2. Front-end and/or back-end editing?

2. It's all happening at the back-end.

3. Are all your articles "checked-in"?

3. All articles are checked-in.

4. In admin, have you tried Extensions --> Database --> Fix? Whilst you're there, anything showing in "Warnings"?

4. As a matter of fact I did the fix of database yesterday because it showed some Warnings.

Just as a reminder, all was working nicely before the update attempt.

The last line of the joomla_update.php says "... Starting installation of new version."

I'm a big fan of ACL Manager; the modest cost for a 6 month subscription is well worth it in time saved if your issue really is ACL related. It will also fix your asset table; you'll be amazed at the number of errors when you first run it - at least, I was

Maybe it is worth to give it a shot.

Thanks!

[itoctopus]

Hi Vlade,

May I ask how you know that there is no error in the assets table? Errors in the assets table are very very subtle (a 0 instead of 1 in just one row can bring the whole website down) and I'm not sure how you analyzed that there are no errors there without using a tool (if you used a tool, can you please let us know which one it is).

[Vlade]

Hi itoctopus,

because this error ocures with all articles I presumed (obviously wrongly) that it is enough to check assets table for the levels of several randomly chosen articles and their parents up to the root level.
I see that ACL Manager has great reviews. Is there any extension nearly good enough that can check assets tables for free?

Thank you very much for your time.

[sovainfo]

See https://github.com/elinw/AssetFix

[JAVesey]

The last line of the joomla_update.php says "... Starting installation of new version."

This might give a big clue. Doesn't look like your update completed.

Can you try Components --> Joomla! Update and click on the "Reinstall Joomla core files" button (organs button is you're using the Isis Admin Template).

[Vlade]

First of all, I want to thank you all for your help.
I tried all of the suggestions but unfortunately, nothing worked.
Then I stumbled upon the solution at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/11511 .

For the future reference I am giving the outcomes of your suggestions:

See https://github.com/elinw/AssetFix

I tried this one, but seems like the script is not compatible with 3.6.2

Can you try Components --> Joomla! Update and click on the "Reinstall Joomla core files" button (organs button is you're using the Isis Admin Template).

Tried this one too but nothing happened.

There are 2 issues that might be causing this problem:

- Corruption in the ACL (access control list)
- Corruption in the assets table

At the end I purchased the ACL manager extension, ran diagnostics, ended up with nine asset issues, fixed them, but the problem still remained. Though, it must be said that this extension helped a great deal with other issues related to ACL (granting of the large number of back-end permissions - especially hard job with EDocman extension). So anyway, thanks for the tip.

Great forum, thanks a lot again .