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Hi there,

yesterday i have seen the update message at the control centre update button:

update to joomla 3.0.1.

i had a running 2.5.6. and for security quickly i installed the 2.5.x to 2.5.8 patch
to upgrade after that to 3.0.1

now its the system message
there is NO UPDATE needet because i have the actual 2.5.8 version

:-(

ca i upgrade a 2.5.8. to a 3.0.2 version ?
how ?

thanks and best greetings from thuringia
http://www.two-sports.com

1) Login to the backend
2) Drop down "Components" and click "Joomla Update"
3) Click "Options"
4) Select "Short term support" for update server
5) Save & close

... sorry - doesn't work

LTS
STS
Test

always the same since update from 2.5.6 with package (2.5.x to 2.5..
there ist everything ok and actual, the update button says.

After changing to short term support. You will then need to go to the control panel dashboard and then click on the link "Joomla! is up-to-date".

You should then see:

Joomla! Update
No updates available

You already have the latest Joomla! version, 3.0.1.

Next
Click on the button at the top of that screen that says Purge Cache

You will then see that there is an update available for 3.0.2 and then you can apply the update.

You should then see:

Joomla! Update
No updates available

You already have the latest Joomla! version, 3.0.2.

NO STOP READ MY FIRST QUESTION

i am ONE STEP BEFORE 3.0.1 !!!!!

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Es ist bereits die aktuellste Joomla!-Version 2.5.8 installiert.

i updatet 2.5.6 to 2.5.8

in 2.5.6. there was the information "update to 3.0.1"
BUT NOW
in 2.5.8. there is no message update to ..... anything

also cache cleaning has no effect !

Sorry my mistake. No need to yell this is a friendly forum with the intent to help others.

Is it a live site ?

jdbdrwho wrote:Sorry my mistake. No need to yell this is a friendly forum with the intent to help others.

thank you 4 your help - it was no critic !


and the other question was: LIVE SITE ? --> YES !

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
and the other question was: LIVE SITE ? --> YES !

Then the answer to your original question is 'Don't do it !!!'

Joomla 3.0 is recommended for more experienced users and developers.

http://www.joomla.org/download.html

If you need to ask how to do it then you are not experienced. Thus trying to do it on a live site would be to say the least not very clever.

You need to make a backup of your site and test update/upgrade on test environment.

Do you have xampp or similar on your computer ?

OK again and shorter

why there WAS a button "update to 3.0.1" (as i had 2.5.6)

and NOW ther is NO button
(after my syfety update to the highest 2.5.(8))

dont tell me i am not experieced because i had only a simple question ...
i am on the way with joomla since 1.xxx - so please dont tell me to try a xammp or something -
my question is only about the missing button - and again: why did joomla show me this function in 2.5.6. and not more in 2.5.8

It was not a personal attack on you, it was an observation on you wanting to update/upgrade from 2.5 to 3.0 on a live site.

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
dont tell me i am not experieced because i had only a simple question ...
...

The answer to your question is not simple ... to update/upgrade from 2.5 to 3.0 is not a simple matter.

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
i am on the way with joomla since 1.xxx - so please dont tell me to try a xammp or something -

Then you should know not to update/upgrade between different series on a live site.

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
my question is only about the missing button - and again: why did joomla show me this function in 2.5.6. and not more in 2.5.8

Well one of your questions was

betriebsdruckth wrote:ca i upgrade a 2.5.8. to a 3.0.2 version ?
how ?

When I asked if it was a live site and you replied 'Yes' ... then I gave the answer which IMHO was correct.

If you are experienced and want to update/upgrade from 2.5.8 to 3.0.2 then I wish you luck.

As for 2.5.6 showing 3.0.x is available for update ... that should only happen if the Joomla update options have been changed. After using the 2.5.x to 2.5.8 patch then Joomla update component shows up to date ... until cache is cleared in Module manager >>> update tab. But even then the Joomla update options must have been changed in the first place.

I still maintain that anyone updating/upgrading ... from 2.5 to 3.0 on a live site ... is not as experienced as they think they are. Also, to change the settings on a live site to STS ... is not the act of an experienced user. Also would add that experience is learning from mistakes not the length of time doing something. If you are making the mistake of updating/upgrading 2.5 to 3.0 on a live site ... that speaks for itself.

hello Webdongle,

thank you very much 4 accepting my words.
somebody was answering without reading my words.

VERY USEFUL was: until cache is cleared in Module manager >>> update tab.
i cleared every cache around but not this cache ;-)
now there is another small error: Update: :Collection: „http://update.martiinkolle.dk/xml/extensions.xml“ kann nicht geöffnet werden!


i never updated a live site from version to version because there was no possibility via update function since 2.5
(i should accept, that the update function is not a real update function - from version to version)

I DONT WANT TO UPDATE THIS LIVE SITE NOW

thanks 4 the LTS STS tip, but i never used (changed) this options.
the update message @ 2.5.6. was really there (thats the grounding of my questions)

http://www.two-sports.com

By the way, please be sure to check out the Joomla 3 FAQ:
http://community.joomla.org/blogs/commu ... 0-faq.html

Kind regards,
Nick

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Hi Maisondouf,

Please open up a new topic for your issue.

Kind regards,
Nick

Hi , I have a question directly related to this post.
I accept that updating from 2.5.8 to the 3's is something experienced developers should do. Is it therefore safe to simply stay with 2.5.8 version?

No, that is not safe. You need to upgrade to J2.5.9 and continue to do so for other releases in J2.5.

If your 2.5.8 is showing 3.0.x available then set your Joomla update component's >>> Options to LTS.

Hi

Sorry if this has already been answered....

But under components i dont have the Joomla update menu item?

Im running 2.5.8 and want to upgrade to 3.x as this is a new server and no sites live yet

Help??

Call Joomla! update directly: http://localhost/j258/administrator/ind ... omlaupdate

thanks

using that direct link, i get red errors

Error loading component: com_joomlaupdate, 1

then whem i try to set short term, i get

Fatal error: Call to a member function filter() on a non-object in .........libraries/joomla/application/component/modelform.php on line 261

and it wont save setting

any ideas? should i upgrade to 2.5.9, then to 3.x?

Thx

You shouldn't get those errors. Maybe run discover and install missing stuff and check the database and fix.

When both of these don't work, consider to overwrite the distribution without the installation folder.

When you want to go for J3, download the patch and manually install it using extension installer. Should be needed to update to 259 first, it doesn't hurt if you do.

Assuming you have investigated your extensions on compatibility for J3! If not don't go to J3.

thx, the discover didthe trick,

selected joomla update and installed.... now looks as per instructions !! thx very much

This is a known issue. Here is the solution:
No-updates-shown-in-current-version
There are some reports that updates that have been released are not shown in the current (older) version. If this occurs, go to the Updates tab of the Extensions Manager. Click the clear cache icon. Then click the check for updates icon.
(from this page: http://docs.joomla.org/No-updates-shown ... nt-version)