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Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by billyTK » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:20 am

Hey Guys,

I have a joomla website that is not mobile friendly. Google has flagged my website as not adhering to mobile friendly standards.

My question is this can I somehow enable a different version of my website when a mobile user views my website instead of editing my template to be more responsive.. And and the same time not having my website suffer in the seo rankings.

Let me know if you have any insight.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by josh2015 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:50 pm

learn more about Google recommendation about that matter here
https://developers.google.com/webmaster ... mpaign=MFT
hope it helps

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by Per Yngve Berg » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:10 pm

Have you implemented the new robots.txt file that is distributed with 3.4.1?
Google needs access tot he templates folder in order to be marked mobile friendly.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by billyTK » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:27 am

Thanks for your replies.

I have implemented the following robots.txt. However, I have no idea if this is what Google is looking for:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /components/
Allow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /libraries/
Allow: /media/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Allow: /templates/
Disallow: /tmp/
Disallow: /xmlrpc/

Let me know if the above checks out . Thanks.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by josh2015 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:36 pm

billyTK wrote:Thanks for your replies.

I have implemented the following robots.txt. However, I have no idea if this is what Google is looking for:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /components/
Allow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /libraries/
Allow: /media/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Allow: /templates/
Disallow: /tmp/
Disallow: /xmlrpc/

Let me know if the above checks out . Thanks.

Actually it is not what it has been recommended, Joomla Recommend this;
User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /bin/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /cli/
Disallow: /components/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /layouts/
Disallow: /libraries/
Disallow: /logs/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Disallow: /tmp/
so please update to what is recommended, there is no need of Allow

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by Webdongle » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:31 pm

Link to website please. Also what Template are you using ?
http://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/
https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:08 pm

I too have google mobility issues on http://lallans.co.uk

As recommended it is 3.4.1 and uses a Protostar-based template.

About robots.txt Josh2015 says Joomla recommends:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /bin/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /cli/
Disallow: /components/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /layouts/
Disallow: /libraries/
Disallow: /logs/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Disallow: /tmp/
However, the installed robots.txt file has this:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /cli/
Disallow: /components/
Disallow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /libraries/
Disallow: /logs/
Disallow: /media/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Disallow: /templates/
Disallow: /tmp/
Which is right?

I notice also there is a file called robots.txt.dist Does that need tinkering with as well?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by Varandas » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:35 pm

feste wrote:I notice also there is a file called robots.txt.dist Does that need tinkering with as well?

Thanks in advance.
The file called robots.txt.dist is indeed the updated version of the recomended robots.txt.
Joomla update won't overwrite the robots.txt file because usually it is already customized by the webmaster.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:10 pm

Thanks Varandas. Should I overwrite robots.txt with robots.txt.dist?

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by Varandas » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:19 am

Yes, you should do that!
Just make sure you keep your own changes on the robots.txt file, if you made any. Otherwise, you can just overwrite.

Regards.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:29 pm

Many thanks Varandas.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by antonius3960 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:32 pm

Varandas wrote:
feste wrote:I notice also there is a file called robots.txt.dist Does that need tinkering with as well?

Thanks in advance.
The file called robots.txt.dist is indeed the updated version of the recomended robots.txt.
Joomla update won't overwrite the robots.txt file because usually it is already customized by the webmaster.
Help me,
robots.TXT.dist and robots.txt should be on the public-html server?

Thank you

Thank you

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:24 pm

I don't know if they 'should' be in the root folder [presumably public_html in your case] but that is where they are on my Joomla websites. And I didn't put them there so I assume that is where they go by default when Joomla is installated.

From earlier replies I think robots.txt contains whatever you want it to and is what is looked at by search engines [or is it only google?] whereas robots.txt.dist contains the current Joomla recommendations. Therefore robots.txt should contain at least whatever is in the latest robots.txt.dist file to which you can add whatever other permissions or denials that suit your purpose.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by antonius3960 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:31 pm

feste wrote:I don't know if they 'should' be in the root folder [presumably public_html in your case] but that is where they are on my Joomla websites. And I didn't put them there so I assume that is where they go by default when Joomla is installated.

From earlier replies I think robots.txt contains whatever you want it to and is what is looked at by search engines [or is it only google?] whereas robots.txt.dist contains the current Joomla recommendations. Therefore robots.txt should contain at least whatever is in the latest robots.txt.dist file to which you can add whatever other permissions or denials that suit your purpose.
I am from Indonesia'm sorry if my language is not good,
and thank you for the information and I will try

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:51 pm

Your language is fine - and a hundred times better than my Indonesian! But to be clear, I used the word 'should' in single quotes to indicate that I don't actually know for sure the answer to your question, but can state for as fact that the two robots files are in the root directory on my Joomla websites.

There is a useful link in one of the robots files where you can check/ test your robots files; http://www.sxw.org.uk/computing/robots/check.html will check the syntax. I don't think it will tell you whether the permissions in your robots file/s will satisfy google's mobility requirements.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by josh2015 » Sat May 02, 2015 5:00 pm

Robots.txt should be in your root folder, regardless of where Joomla folder is, in your case put robots.txt should be at public-html
Last edited by josh2015 on Wed May 06, 2015 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Wed May 06, 2015 11:36 am

Is that really correct? I have a website http://www.quivis.co.ukcontaining 2 separate Joomla installations http://www.http://quivis.co.uk/joomla/ and http://www.quivis.co.uk/spellit/ on an otherwise static xhtml site. At present each of the above Joomla installations has the robots.txt and robots.txt.dist in their respective Joomla root. Is that wrong? In the above the robots files are at present the same in both Joomla installations, but I can envisage a situation where they might not be, in which case how could separate Joomla installs have their own relevant robots files if there is just the one in the public_html website root?

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by Webdongle » Wed May 06, 2015 12:21 pm

Only the robots.txt in http://www.quivis.co.uk will be read when reached by http://www.quivis.co.uk/joomla/ and http://www.quivis.co.uk/spellit/ . But if the installations in the sub folders were reached by http://joomla.quivis.co.uk and http://spellit.quivis.co.uk then their individual robots.txt would be used. At the moment those subdomain urls display your main site.
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https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by kosti85 » Wed May 06, 2015 12:38 pm

That's true, I updated my website too. Thanks! 8)
josh2015 wrote:
billyTK wrote:Thanks for your replies.

I have implemented the following robots.txt. However, I have no idea if this is what Google is looking for:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /components/
Allow: /images/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /libraries/
Allow: /media/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Allow: /templates/
Disallow: /tmp/
Disallow: /xmlrpc/

Let me know if the above checks out . Thanks.

Actually it is not what it has been recommended, Joomla Recommend this;
User-agent: *
Disallow: /administrator/
Disallow: /bin/
Disallow: /cache/
Disallow: /cli/
Disallow: /components/
Disallow: /includes/
Disallow: /installation/
Disallow: /language/
Disallow: /layouts/
Disallow: /libraries/
Disallow: /logs/
Disallow: /modules/
Disallow: /plugins/
Disallow: /tmp/
so please update to what is recommended, there is no need of Allow

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by indian songs » Thu May 07, 2015 6:30 pm

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http://www.indiansongshd.com/
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http://www.indiansongshd.com/ek-hatheli-indian-video-song-ishq-ke-parindey/
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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Thu May 07, 2015 7:05 pm

Indian Songs - I suggest you start a new thread. Try the 'General/New to Joomla' section.
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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by feste » Thu May 07, 2015 7:14 pm

Webdongle - thanks for the post about my quivis website. I'm afraid I'm a bit slow on the uptake on all this; so, should I have:

http://www.quivis.co.uk/robots.txt
or
http://www.quivis.co.uk/joomla/robots.txt
or
http://www.quivis.co.uk/spellit/robots.txt

or all three?

And how on earth does http://joomla.quivis.co.uk or http://spellit.quivis.co.uk come to work? [or rather where should I look to learn more/how!] Is it a good thing that the website can be found using those URLs or a bad thing? i.e. is there something I should do to 'correct' things so that only http://www.quivis.co.uk/whatever works rather than the others?

Thanks again.

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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by Webdongle » Thu May 07, 2015 10:50 pm

only http://www.quivis.co.uk/robots.txt will be read by the bots.

Contact your Host about the rest
http://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/
https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Mobile Friendly Version Website

Post by josh2015 » Fri May 08, 2015 9:08 am

http://www.quivis.co.uk/robots.txt
The right place for your robots.txt and will work fine for
http://www.quivis.co.uk/joomla/ and http://www.quivis.co.uk/spellit/

For the other two in question
http://joomla.quivis.co.uk, http://spellit.quivis.co.uk should would have robots.txt on their respective
http://joomla.quivis.co.uk/robots.txt and http://spellit.quivis.co.uk/robots.txt;

But as the Webdongle point out you need to contact with your server or look into the way your sub-domain folder is created, some server I have seen do not have defined sub-domain root folder, I have seen a sub-domain folder is resides within main public folder where main site folders and files is, for this case there will be no different on placing your robots.txt file
eg;
http://spellit.quivis.co.uk/
it's folder will be at /home/user/html_public/spellit/
while main site folders and files are at /home/user/html_public/
as you can see here; http://spellit.quivis.co.uk/ and http://quivis.co.uk/spellit/
Physical folder is at the same place; /home/user/html_public/spellit/
though accessed differently, for such a case yes, robots.txt stay root folder and will work just fine;
/home/user/html_public/rotots.txt


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