Keywords for category not showing

random12 · Post by **random12** » Fri May 16, 2014 5:41 pm

The keywords (metadata) set in category are not showing in the html? If I set them in the menu-item, they show up. Using Protostar.
Bug?

NathanHawks · Post by **NathanHawks** » Fri May 16, 2014 7:55 pm

Not showing on the html of what kind of page(s)?

What version of 3.x?

Any extensions affecting metadata?

Do other metadata fields output properly, on those same pages, when filled in category details and blank in menu items?

Edits:
Tried copying the menu item, giving it special access, and using a different template? (aka, is it just protostar?)

Do you have a template override that might be broken?

random12 · Post by **random12** » Sat May 17, 2014 8:22 am

On category blog pages and its both keywords and description. Tried it with beez3 and same results. If I add meta data in the menu-item they show up in category blog. If I add meta-data in the category manager (and no meta in the menu-item) the default meta data for the site are shown in the category blog. Thus the meta-data entered in the category-manager seem to have no effect.
I tried it on two different sites & should be no overrides or metadata extensions.
Does meta-data entered in category manager work for you?

NathanHawks · Post by **NathanHawks** » Mon May 19, 2014 11:57 pm

Yes, although the site I tested with is 3.1; I somehow un-readied my home server for 3.3 and haven't had time to figure out what happened; so 3.1 is the most recent I can test on at the moment. But, yes, keywords entered into the category editor in Category Manager, appeared in the html/head/meta section for a blog menu entry.

random12 · Post by **random12** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:07 pm

I am not getting keywords nor description from the category manager. But if I enter them in the menu item they show up.
This has to be a problem with this instance of Joomla. Any idea about the problem and solution is greatly appreciated!.

NathanHawks · Post by **NathanHawks** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:27 pm

No direct ideas about the problem, but I haven't asked you for FPA yet: please use Forum Post Assistant on your site and post its output directly into a response here. Please let it show server config and extensions. Hopefully it'll help me or someone else see a problem.

random12 · Post by **random12** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:31 am

Thanks, I think I can do that. But just remembered that I see the same thing (no category meta-data) on two different sites that are on different hosts.

NathanHawks · Post by **NathanHawks** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:12 am

There's a slim chance this is being caused by a template doing things wrong. In the template's main index.php file there is supposed to be this line somewhere between <head> and </head>:

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<jdoc:include type="head" />

If the template coder didn't know that and used direct API calls instead, they could get the logic wrong or omit the category pull entirely.

If that code above appears correct in your template and isn't wrapped in a conditional PHP block, it should work... if you're seeing calls to JDocument::getMetaData() or other such things instead, that's ...odd.

PS: Don't get so distracted by this that you forget FPA

random12 · Post by **random12** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:10 pm

Wierd thing is I tried it with beez and protostar..

random12 · Post by **random12** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:51 pm

Fpa:

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NathanHawks · Post by **NathanHawks** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:00 pm

With so much information hidden, and what little it does show me says your site isn't even configured, I can't really get anything out of this. Take a look at the output with privacy turned off, it really doesn't reveal much, and consider posting again with all the info.

random12 · Post by **random12** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:12 am

Thanks for taking a look, I'll see if I can post more info. I tried the Joomla-demo and am pretty sure it does not display keywords from categories either. Since its reset every ten minutes one has to be quick. But got keywords and description when adding a menu item (user menu) but nothing when adding them in the category manager.

random12 · Post by **random12** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:42 pm

- login to the backend of the joomla demo
- Add a category, and write something in Meta Description and Meta Keywords
- Add a menu item (category blog) to the user-menu pointing to the category just added
- Log in to the frontend and click on the menu item just added in the user-menu
- Check source for Meta Description and Meta Keywords
- Add Meta Description and Meta Keywords to the menu item
- Check source for Meta Description and Meta Keywords

My results are: no meta shown from the category, but meta is shown when added in the menu-item. A bug?

ramin701 · Post by **ramin701** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:31 pm

thank you NathanHawks you explain this subject very good

random12 · Post by **random12** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:21 am

And thank you ramin for participating.
Anyone able to test for metadata from the category manager like above?

random12 · Post by **random12** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:12 am

Possibly connected to the bug reported here
Hopefully fixed in next version?

NathanHawks · Post by **NathanHawks** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:05 pm

Appears to be related, yes.

However it's a coin toss about whether it's fixed by next update - they're in a freeze waiting to push out a maintenance release in the coming week and this bug only has one testing confirmation round completed. Nobody has submitted code to fix it yet. There is a bug fixing party in the works however, just not sure on timing.

random12 · Post by **random12** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:25 pm

Looks like its fixed!

rich1 · Post by **rich1** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:31 pm

I have the same problem with Weblinks Category in 3.3, see:
http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=712&t=858355

@random12
What did you mean by 'it looks like it's fixed'?

rich1 · Post by **rich1** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:02 am

This is not fixed by the looks of it.
I have spent weeks trying to migrate J1.5 and J2.5 systems to J3.3 as it was released as a stable release.
It should not be recommended as the latest stable release.
I now find that this critical flaw in SEO is across all systems.

I have a J3.24 using protostar template the issue is there with that Joomla version as well.
So I am now looking at testing a 3.1 version and seeing how I can revert all systems to a 3.1 version that works.

I feel a fool for only just finding this out as I cannot revert back to J3.1 without being sure there are no database upgrades between J3.1 and J3.3.
If there were non I could delete all files except configuration.php and altered root or template files and extract and dump a 3.1 version onto the server.

It looks like weeks of work may be up in smoke.

This J3.3 version needs to be withdrawn until this exceptionally important SEO bug is resolved.

rich1 · Post by **rich1** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:53 pm

Not wishing to hijack the post, but BUMP

Chacapamac · Post by **Chacapamac** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:30 pm

To Joomla Admin — Is this fixed ?
and if not When?

A broken SEO is unacceptable, should be top priority.

random12 · Post by **random12** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:06 pm

Its working for me and the status at Joomlacode is "Fixed in SVN/GitHub". But my problem was with "normal" content. If I am not mistaken they are working on removing the weblinks component, so maybe your problem is related to that?

rich1 · Post by **rich1** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:58 pm

I updated from 2.5.24 to 3.3 and none of the com_content metadata is showing from categories in either 3.2 or 3.3, where it is showing from categories, as it should, in 2.5.24.

As for the disposal of weblinks , which when used properly can get good SERP and clickthrough. It does not surprise me this may get removed. If Joomla can strip down the component function they can help promote those 3rd party paid extensions and have less responsibility themselves, (not that they accept any anyway).

miamiman · Post by **miamiman** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:08 pm

Any resolution on this?

I am on Joomla 3.2.3.

Meta-data appears for Article, Menu and Global, but not Categories.

Zemplate · Post by **Zemplate** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:53 pm

I migrated a site from an earlier 3+ version to 3.3.6 recently. The category meta data that was entered in Category Manager shows up in the <head> section just fine. This was meta data that was there before the upgrade. I found a category that did not have meta data - just added it and it shows up just fine.

I am running 3.3.6 with a customized Protostar template on this site. This meta data is showing up on a Category List. It also worked just fine with a Category Blog. This meta desc in question is appearing on the actual blog page or list page but not with the individual articles.

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