New slogan

illeo74 · Post by **illeo74** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:31 pm

SineMacula wrote:
illeo74 wrote: the hearth of joomla! is the community, so what do you think about this slogan: Joomla! Ccms (Community Content Management System). This community is great (logo competition is an example) so i think we have to exalt this project's side.
The heart behind the development of Joomla! is certainly the community, but an awful lot of sites built with Joomla/Mambo are not community sites at all - I myself have built 7 or 8 sites with it, and none of them is "community" based. I think that when considering a slogan, we need to think about how it's being used more than how it's being developed - since a lot of people who consider using it may not really care that much about the community behind it (at least not at first).

sorry, i don't explain very well how i have in my head (because my english is very down). my slogan don't explain kind of sites but the origin of project: if you choose joomla! for your site(s) you must know joomla! force (the community). i hope you understand me

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:48 pm

bedlam wrote:
Chris wrote:
farimi wrote: joomla! an opensource CMS.
Who needs a slogan.

Looking at Google for

mambo+cms = 2,300,000

In the short period of the life of Joomla:

joomla+cms = 1,130,000

I call that 'going strong' for a 'the better choice'

from a user's point of view who wants to search for a good cms and doesnt know the name joomla, try searching for just "cms" or "content manangement system" .... see how joomla ranks from the rest

That was not to search for a CMS but to eliminate the beachwear, dances etc associated with the name Mambo.
This gave only the numbers for a cms called Joomla and/or Mambo

SineMacula · Post by **SineMacula** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:50 pm

illeo74 wrote:
SineMacula wrote:
illeo74 wrote: the hearth of joomla! is the community, so what do you think about this slogan: Joomla! Ccms (Community Content Management System). This community is great (logo competition is an example) so i think we have to exalt this project's side.
The heart behind the development of Joomla! is certainly the community, but an awful lot of sites built with Joomla/Mambo are not community sites at all - I myself have built 7 or 8 sites with it, and none of them is "community" based. I think that when considering a slogan, we need to think about how it's being used more than how it's being developed - since a lot of people who consider using it may not really care that much about the community behind it (at least not at first).
sorry, i don't explain very well how i have in my head (because my english is very down). my slogan don't explain kind of sites but the origin of project: if you choose joomla! for your site(s) you must know joomla! force (the community). i hope you understand me

I think I do understand you... I just happen to disagree

My personal opinion (and it is only an opinion) is that it makes more sense to have a slogan that presents prospective users (and the press) something about what it is, or how it's used, or how it makes their life easier/better/etc., or how they'll feel when using it.

A slogan should somehow play up the benefits of Joomla and/or tell what it actually is either directly (e.g. "Joomla! Content management made easy") or semi-directly (e.g. "Joomla! Set your sites on it") or indirectly (e.g. "Joomla! It's just easier this way").

The fact that there is a strong, creative, wonderful community here supporting Joomla and the talented folks that develop it, and third party additions, is very important to us, but to people who are first coming to Joomla, looking for a CMS, it may not be important at all (especially if they're in the early stages of learning about the whole Open Source thing and the importance of these communities - as I was when I first discovered Mambo). For those that choose Joomla, many will discover the community, and its strength, diversity, and creativity after they start using it, if they don't do so during the exploration phase.

So, to summarize (sorry, I get long-winded near the end of my day... well, actually, time of day doesn't really matter

) -- it is my opinion that using the slogan to promote or express the fact that there is a strong community behind Joomla is not the best approach. But it's not up to me, so who knows?!?

I'll be happy to support whatever is decided!

trostlos · Post by **trostlos** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:26 am

Think "lifestyle", "way of life". Now look at my suggestions:

Joomla! - Your way of site
Joomla! - A way of sites
Joomla! - The way of sites
Joomla! - Retaining your sitestyle

Don't know all too many lifestyle expressions in english, but my point is to get the idea out there, not the actual slogans I wrote.

Since we all are geeks I say:
Joomla! - All your CMS are belong to us!

bedlam · Post by **bedlam** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:06 am

Joomla! - All your CMS are belong to us!

LOL

kidding aside .... i think the slogan should be:

Joomla! - cutting edge content management system

robbievk · Post by **robbievk** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:14 pm

trostlos wrote: Since we all are geeks I say:
Joomla! - All your CMS are belong to us!

l33t is c00l

would be nice if the name stayed open source too, and doesn't sound to commercial, originality is the keyword imo, originality can be funny and the other way around... imo...

Hoppity · Post by **Hoppity** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:15 pm

Empowering the browser

Power the browser

or how about something simple

Joomla - making it easy

(cos if I can use it, then anyone can!)

Sorian · Post by **Sorian** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:27 pm

Joomla! Content. Managed. Simple.

Hoppity · Post by **Hoppity** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:35 pm

Sorian wrote: Joomla! Content. Managed. Simple.

Sorian - I like that!

fireman · Post by **fireman** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:59 pm

joomla! free and easy

illeo74 · Post by **illeo74** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:07 pm

Joomla! "THE" cms

MyJC · Post by **MyJC** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:29 am

Joomla! Click here.

davidva · Post by **davidva** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:38 am

Joomla!
Hello World

TheSaint · Post by **TheSaint** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:40 am

Any word on when we'll actually choose one of these suggestions?

tdc · Post by **tdc** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:15 am

Miro Miro, on the Wall

no - seriously, I vote for "Power in Simplicity"

Manoxtra · Post by **Manoxtra** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:00 am

*** Joomla! Inside ***

Keep up the good work!

Andrew Smith · Post by **Andrew Smith** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:32 am

How about ....

Joomla! - the fork your spaghetti needs (spaghetti being information, etc)

Actually, I've got to admit that the slogan "all together now" does have a lot of appeal to me. However, for positioning the product to be taken seriously in the business / IT setting, I'd like to suggest the following:

Joomla - the power of many

Why? Well, it's short ... as a slogan needs to be. It's not cheesy either.

"the power of many" also instantly conveys a good mental image of both (a) the nature of community involvement and (b) the extendability of the software through third party modules/components/mambots etc.

It does catch a bit of a ride off "the power of one" (book/movie) concept, but doesn't depend on it to successfully communicate. Indeed Joomla! isn't about what one has done, but what many can accomplish. Hence there is even more power in "many".

Lastly, both the words used and the concept they convey (on the literal level) are simple and should mean that the slogan translates easily. Much better than a complex or humour/cheesy slogan would.

Andrew Smith
Brisbane, Australia.

lummie · Post by **lummie** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:29 am

Joomla! because you can.

^^ says it all, you want it, you can do it. Puts the emphasis on the user, joomla just helps you do what ever you want with your site.

With CMS :

Joomla! Community Maintenance Support

Joomla! Communities Must-be Supported

Thoughts ?

chess · Post by **chess** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:53 pm

ok, i havent read all 17 pages, but so dont be surprised if i say something stupid

i think a good one would be:
Joomla! Open Source Matters

what is opensourcematters being used for right now? if it is nothing more than nothing, we might as well use it as joomla's slogan

Anacrusis · Post by **Anacrusis** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:22 pm

Andrew Smith wrote: Joomla - the power of many

I like that one, it describes Joomla! perfectly.

newart · Post by **newart** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:21 pm

We have to wait for the new logo... Only then, I think, we can choose the right slogan

Hoppity · Post by **Hoppity** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:56 am

Joomla! Open for business

farimi · Post by **farimi** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:26 pm

Anacrusis wrote:
Andrew Smith wrote: Joomla - the power of many
I like that one, it describes Joomla! perfectly.

what about

1. "Joomla - Choice of Freedom"
2. "Joomla - People's choice"

Hmm.. i just wonder, i saw " Joomla! 1.0 - 'Experience the Freedom'! " after i install joomla 1.0..

hmmm has the slogan been decided?

newart · Post by **newart** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:02 pm

farimi wrote:
Hmm.. i just wonder, i saw " Joomla! 1.0 - 'Experience the Freedom'! " after i install joomla 1.0..

hmmm has the slogan been decided?

why not, I like it

and how about a... random slogan component?

There are too many good slogans here... we are sinking literally!

Here's my new contribute:

Joomla! Free & Fast

Stroker · Post by **Stroker** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:33 pm

Joomla! Always Open

Joomla! We're Always Open

MarkV · Post by **MarkV** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:41 pm

newart wrote:
farimi wrote:
Hmm.. i just wonder, i saw " Joomla! 1.0 - 'Experience the Freedom'! " after i install joomla 1.0..

hmmm has the slogan been decided?

why not, I like it and how about a... random slogan component? There are too many good slogans here... we are sinking literally!

Here's my new contribute:

Joomla! Free & Fast

Haha. I like the idear of a random slogan generator. I like the 'Experience the Freedom' slogan too.
'Free & not that fast but very good' would be better for Joomla :P. I spent yeasterday working in the administrator pannel and its not that fast

.

X-Dimension · Post by **X-Dimension** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:54 pm

mamboart wrote:
Joomla! - Power your website!

YEAAHHH! I love it! :-*

XD

allmagica · Post by **allmagica** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:19 pm

My slogan suggestions:

- Joomla; Light Years Ahead..

- Joomla; At The Speed Of Light...

- Dont Jumble; Choose Joomla

- Joomla; Modern Webdesign

- Joomla; Mastermind...

From the slogans suggested so far I like mostly:
Control Your Web
The CSM Experience
Collective Intelligence
Infinite Possibilities

I m so astonished about people using the words OPEN SOURCE in the slogan!

When I hear open source my mind relates to hundreds of software which have an open code. I dont think it should be used to define a csm since it describes a whole lot more softwares. Anything related to "all together" is also not of my taste. I like to work alone without people around my head :P, nor do I like to be forced to be part of a community (even if I respect a lot what it going on in here). Isnt it selfunderstood that there should be no link between mambo and joomla? These projects are likely to develope differently. I am looking forward to seeing great functional differences in the future. These are just my thoughts, I know you cant satisfy everyone, but at least a neutral and serious slogan should be easier to digest than emotional ones.

windowsguy · Post by **windowsguy** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:27 am

starise wrote: Joomla - The most dynamic open source portal of the web. Open your mind.

or

Joomla - The most dynamic CMS of the web. Open source, open mind.

How about,
Joomla - Open source, Open mind, Open to all possibilities!

windowsguy · Post by **windowsguy** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:32 am

How about,

Joomla - ReInvent!

Joomla - Beyond Expectation!

Joomla - Expand Your Mind...

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