If you read my message carefully in the context of the forgoing messages you might have a better grasp of my concerns. Context matters. Comprehension skills are critical. Sloppy, inattentive reading adds little to one's credibility. I might suggest that you employ such as you presently possess before responding. Also please see my comments to Brad's message that will appear shortly.
>> I am sorry to hear that filling out a simple form and following established copyright laws in your country is too much for you.
Sarcasm serves no purpose here. Let's please address the substance of the issues here, and do so like grown-ups, OK?
>> ...following established copyright laws in your country ...
If there is an issue here it is one of trademark, not copyright. I think, though, that the claim that simple reference to, or the respectful, good-faith businesslike use of a portion of the name of a software product in a domain name or organization name violates a trademark is reaching a bit, to say the least.
>> ...filling out a simple form ...
I think it would help all concerned for you to reread my comments more carefully. I made and have no objection to filling out a form. I am just unwilling to name the organization I have in mind to conform to an arbitrary, silly, syntactically awkward and totally needless
naming pattern requirement. The only justification I can see OSM coming up with for such a thing is "Maybe we can get away with it and people will be too cowed to object."
>> The OSM policies in this regard are hardly restrictive at all. Perhaps you've been given misinformation.
I responded to the very specific items Michelle pointed me toward. If those items on at these links she provided...http://www.opensourcematters.org/content/view/101/75/http://www.opensourcematters.org/content/view/99/70/
... do not represent the position of OSM, you should address their respective authors.
Frankly these are so hyperbureaucratic they as to be comical. Quote:
Registered groups will all have names with this structure: Joomla! User xxxx yyyy. Xxxx will be an appropriate word describing the group's structure, such as: group, association, club, organization, or network. Yyyy will be an appropriate geographic description, which might be the name of a city, region, country or some other area.
Sounds to me like someone in OSM-land has way too much time on his/her hands. The thing speaks for itself.
The (current proposed working) name of the group I am in the process of forming is "Joomlai: The Independent Joomla User Groups of Illinois" and will appear at http://www.joomlai.org
(currently a down-for-maintenance stub). Note that I am not saying this might be the name subject to the whims of OSM. It is
the current name of the group. I am not coming hat-in-hand to OSM to beg its indulgence in being allowed to adopt it. The name does not adhere to the OSM's naming criteria, and a board and membership to be formed for Joomlai will consider and subsequently approve or rejected it once we're at that stage of our life cycle, whether OSM is on board or not. If OSM can somehow contort its priorities and sense of reality to find such a name to be so egregiously damaging to its brand identity that it wants to make an issue of it, well, we'll just have to have that conversation when its time comes.Let's get our priorities straight, people!http://www.joomlai.org
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