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Tophe
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:59 am 
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Hi,
This is/was an issue in 1.0.x also, but I thought 1.5 may have addressed it.

I don't mean to be "picky"... nor pedantic...
I also understand that it is too late to fix in 1.5 at this satge of Dev cycle.
Howver, it should IMO be on the agenda to be addressed - or at least clarified in the pop-up moseover wording.

There exists a potential for confusion in using the word "Leading" in respect of "# Leading" on the "Edit Menu Item"
setup screen from Admin (J. 1.5 beta2) - for example, in the "Frontpage Blog Layout" page from Edit Menu Item.

FYI, the word "Leading" (pronounced in English as Ledding - from the use of actual physical lead spacers in laying-up Fonts in early printing) is a traditional typographical term given to line spacing of copy (text) in a paragrapgh.

I do (now) understand it is used in the Joomla context to mean "leading items" - that is, the Number of items to display, but to people from any Graphic Arts background (or MS Word or users of Fireworks, Illustrator et. al.) the term is confusing in the Joomla context.

I have been using Joomla from the M**bo 4.x days, andi it has taken me until recently to understand this - and then only by fluke when installing a "ja_news" module from Joomlart.com. I suppose I didn't spot it earlier because I have only reccently been playing with controlling the layout of my "front page" elements.

I am amazed that this has not been picked up before... or, has it? I could not find any references to the issue.

Anyway, just thought I'd point to it by way of a heads-up.
Thanks to all involved in Joomla 1.5 dev... it looks really quite brilliant.

Regards,
Chris(topher)
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eyezberg
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:42 am 
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As it's just text, not functionality, it should be easy to correct if deemed logical..

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cornishcharlie
 Post subject: Re: Use of the word
PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:56 pm 
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Thank you for posting this."picky"... nor pedantic... YOU ARE NOT.
I have been struggling to change the line spacing ( leading) and could not work out for the life of me why changing this setting made no difference.
Now all I have to do is find out how to change the Lead... oh I mean line spacing. If anyone can help
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Tophe
 Post subject: Re: Use of the word
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:33 am 
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Hi,
cornishcharlie wrote:
Now all I have to do is find out how to change the Lead... oh I mean line spacing. If anyone can help


I cannot give a tutorial here... however, you probably need to study the template.css (and possible sub-folder CSS) for your particular template.

Various elements on your template (index.php) will a mixture of CLASS and ID attributes (parameters).
In CSS-speak (.css file), an ID is prefixed with #name-of-your-id. Whereas a CLASS element in css is prefixied with a . (dot/period/full-stop)

for example:
body {
background: #FFFFFF;
color: #000000;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
line-height: 1.5;
}
-- In this instance 'body' refers to the html <body> tag

It is a BIG subject... you may want to look also for CSS file elements simply starting with P - settings there will affect paragraphs - as in <p> (html). Such elements can carry ID or CLASS attributes.
... a global css defintion for P will be overridden by:
P .my-class {
.... your variations...
}
-- hence CSS = Cascading StyleSheets

Hope this helps to ease the pain... 8)

Chris(topher)
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cornishcharlie
 Post subject: Re: Use of the word
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:11 am 
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Hi Chris, thanks for the reply, certainly css seems to dominate web building these days and i am going to have to do a lot more study. I still struggle with how difficult it is to get a web page layout to be consistent. The way say Dreamweaver can send half your content to oblivion at one click or slight twitch of the mouse, and then when you publish the page, the text is nowhere near where you put it. I spent quite some time learning flash, and just love the way you can drag and drop, knowing that the finished article will behave the same and look the same on all browsers. I would build 100% flash sites if web search engine crawlers only recognised them. I have turned to Joomla in the hope for consistency, but there are so many restrictions . I know it is only lack of skill and knowledge that cause my frustration, but I guess if it was easy, everyone would do it.
Thanks again

John
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JohnWong
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:36 am 
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i agree with John above, i find so many restrictions these days - it's hard to deliver on a true vision in the web world.

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