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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:14 pm 
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No matter what parameters I change, I can't affect the order in which articles are listed in a category list that results from choosing a category in a section list.  Whew!  How do I set the article order?  Changing the order of the articles in the Article Manager has no effect.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:08 am 
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Hi,

I have exactly the same problem.
The current order is last article first to oldest article last and it stays this way no matter what I do in the Article Manager.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:56 pm 
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I found it.

The order you set in the Article manager is only applied if you set the correct parameters in the menu item that points to the Article Category.

I.e.
Say you have an Article Category called "Blah" and you have set the order of the articles for that category in the "Article Manager" in a way you want it to display.

To show those articles you need a menu Item of type "Category Blog Layout" with the category in the "parameters - basic" part set to "Blah".
In order to display the articles in the order you set in the "Article Manager" you need to set the following parameters in the same menu item but in the "Parameters - Advanced" part:
- "Category Order" -> "order"
- "Primairy Order" -> "order"

Joomla 1.5 has a lot more options and when you are used to Joomla 1.0.1x it's a bit difficult to find them.

I hope that this solves your problem as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:26 pm 
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Thanks for the help, Lex. I do know that a Category List or Blog layout does allow the setting of the order of the articles in the category; I usually select 'use only primary order' and then 'order' for the two settings you mention.

My problem is to get the articles listed in the category list that automatically cascades from an article list. In other words, the menu item points to an article category list, Cat A and Cat B. Clicking Cat A leads inexorably to a category list of the articles in Cat A. However, there is no place to set the order of articles in THAT list, and it defaults to the order in which the articles were entered.

So, as you suggest, I will try to use Category List or Blog layout menu items as often as possible.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:53 am 
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When I click in my menu it opens a list of categories within a section. I can order these categories. When I click on such a category, a list of the articles in the category appears. However, these articles are ordered is a descending order by date. How can I make sure they are ordered by the number I use in the administration section?

Thank you in advance.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:10 am 
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Hoi Willem,

I think you can do this for the menu item linked to a category/section (Menu, f.i. Main Menu, Choose Menu item, Edit, Advanced Parameters.

There's also the following option: Content, Content Manager, Filter on a category, Use the Order column to order your content. It might be though that the settings of the menu link are overruling this ordering, but I'm not sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:33 am 
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That doesn't influence the order of the articles in the category, I'm afraid.

The only workaround seems to change the date of the articles.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:00 am 
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Oh I see you are taking a different route. Sorry I didn't notice before that you are opening the category from the section, not from a menu. :-[ The option I gave only works if you use the menu item to get to the category. :-[


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:45 pm 
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I am having this same issue. No matter what order I assign categories in the Category Manager, they are displayed in a different order.

Specifically, I have a category "Son" and a category "Father".
(1) In Category Manager, "Son" appears at the top of the list, clearly ordered as Number 1. "Father" is clearly ordered as Number 2.
(2) I assign 2 Articles to the Menu "Family", with different creation dates and the Category "Son".
(3) I assign 2 Articles to the Menu "Family", with different creation dates and the Category "Father".
Whenever that Menu is clicked, it displays all the "Father" articles first, then the "Son" articles. I can find no way to change that order.

Furthermore, in the Article Manager, I am prevented from moving any Son article higher in the list than a Father article.

Is it possible that this can be changed only in CSS?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:34 am 
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Lex's point also applies to a "Section Blog Layout" that displays articles from different categories (instead of WITHIN one Category). To show those Articles in the order you set in the Category Manager, you need a Menu of type "Section Blog Layout" with the sort order in its "Parameters - Advanced->Category Order" set to "Order".


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:12 am 
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Just merged two similar threads and deleted some double-posts.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:19 pm 
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I'm having the same issue on my first Joomla install (on IIS no less). Sadly, this could be a deal breaker for what we're hoping to use Joomla for. :(

I'm using Joomla 1.5 and everything seems to work great except for this one issue. Technically I could manually edit the dates to force the behaviour I'm after but with the number of articles I expect to be entered into the system, that's a sub-optimal solution and we may be better off publishing manually via Dreamweaver.

The basic premise is we need to document our compliance or noncompliance with a checklist of institutional effectiveness goals. I'm hoping we can also put in some additional functions, but right now that's the extent of what I'm testing. So I have "compliance narratives" set as a section with the other possible functions defined as other sections but currently left unpopulated.

The effectiveness goals are split up into different areas, and these fit neatly into categories. Each of these areas have a checklist of goals, and the items on the checklist correspond to the articles in our current set up. The full checklist ends up being broken down into numbered areas each with numbered check list items. So we have an item 3.7 for example, which would correspond to article 7 in category 3 of the compliance narrative section. The logical way to enter everything would be to start at the top of the list and create the article and drop them into the proper categories within the current section. But doing this produces the exact opposite order from that desired. I could tell people to instead start at the bottom of the list and work up, but that's counter intuitive and I'm dealing with a fairly techno-phobic group (Joomla's user friendly reputation is the primary reason I'm testing it out). Also, each area will have a different person or possibly even a team of persons working on it simultaneously. Starting on area 2.x at the bottom and working up is viable for one person being responsible for that content, but if there's at team it severely limits the ability to work in concert on content creation without the risk of jumbling the content order.

In theory all the articles could be created by me (from the admin account) in whatever order we need and then the people creating the content could just edit rather than create those article from scratch. But this seems like a hack and looses quite a level of agility in adapting to changing content needs. It may also be possible to step the categorization process either forward or back. Area 2.x could be a single article with page breaks between 2.1 and 2.2, for example. But that could create the need for multiple people to need to edit the same article in order to meet deadlines and I'm not sure how Joomla handles such situations. Stepping the scheme back means we'd lose the ability to use Joomla for any of the other high level functions currently defined as sections.

The best possible solution is to get the article order displayed in the article management screen to behave in an intuitive way. So far it seems the only way to do this is to create custom menus for everything, but that defeats the purpose of using the Section Layout menu type.

Any assistance anyone can offer on this would be GREATLY appreciated. I need to have my Joomla proposal in a demo-able form by the end of the week in order for it to receive any real consideration by the decision makers in my organization. This seems to be the only hurdle in the way and I may just be making a typical newbie mistake.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:30 pm 
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Ok, the answer can be found in this bug report: http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... em_id=8800

In that bug report is a patch, apply the patch and the basic functionality is added to the menu management screen. Digging through the SVN I found 2 other files that make reference to the same bug number so I updated those files as well. But the patch alone seems to be enough to address the issue.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:14 pm 
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OK, i had same problem then i applaied the patch and it works fine!
Thank you very much


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:07 pm 
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is this patch still necessary? i didn't see it referenced in another thread i found on this topic that was last posted to in march (and i just responded to today as well)...so i wonder if this is still relevant since i think joomla 1.5 stable came out after the end of this thread (not sure, can't remember the exact date of release).

anyway, if this patch works and i should try it for this problem...and if so, how do i use this patch? i assume i paste it into the file, but where?

forgive me...extreme newbie here...i am NOT a programmer and don't know a thing about the details of how to deal with things like this, so any help is greatly appreciated! :)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:08 am 
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still wondering about this issue...i am still having the problem. so the latest version of joomla hasn't fixed it yet, at least in my situation.

can someone tell me if there is a fix for this? and if so, how exactly do i use it?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:00 pm 
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Same here Tina, using joomla 1.5.8 and still experiencing this problem. I was trying to get the patch working with no luck. Can anyone post a small "howto" for the patch here please?

I tried to find an installation doc in the bug tracker! Wonders I could not find one.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:14 pm 
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pplus wrote:
Same here Tina, using joomla 1.5.8 and still experiencing this problem. I was trying to get the patch working with no luck. Can anyone post a small "howto" for the patch here please?

I tried to find an installation doc in the bug tracker! Wonders I could not find one.


I'm hoping this patch will help me change the order of articles too, but don't know how to install it. Can someone please be so kind as to point me in the right direction.

Many thanks in advance,

C


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:47 pm 
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Hi, C Young, pplus and tinamama!

That patch was for J!1.5RC4 and was committed to the branch in February/2008. This means all versions released after that date already have the patch applied. So, if you use J!1.58 or 1.5.9, you don't need that patch and your's might be a totally different issue.

Please, try to explain more clearly the issue giving the necessary steps to replicate it, preferably using sample data, and I'll take a look at it. ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:05 am 
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airton wrote:
That patch was for J!1.5RC4 and was committed to the branch in February/2008. This means all versions released after that date already have the patch applied


Hi airton,

This is weird, I am using v 1.5.8 and I still have the problem, see the posts above. Well I am kind of sure about the version.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Tested it with J!1.5.9 and found the problem in the Section Table Layout when drilling down into a category in the table. The articles are ordered by date and do not respect the order set in Back-end.

I created a bug report in the tracker: http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... m_id=14714

Thanks for reporting :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:44 pm 
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That's a relief, I thought I was going mad! ;-)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:01 am 
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Thanks for the bug report airton. Hope we get it sorted out asap. ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:49 am 
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Any updates on this bug? I am doing tutorials and really need my readers to view them in the correct order.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:51 am 
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Hi Leisa,

Yes, we have similar urgency here too. We have to keep our eyes on this thread for the time being.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:00 pm 
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This issue has been corrected by a patch in the tracker item #15541 and will be included in J! 1.5.11 to be released soon.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:52 am 
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I updated my joomla version to 1.5.11 but still the problem remains?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:29 pm 
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Is this issue still happening ? or i guess this might be a separate issue
we just did the upgrade to Joomla! 1.5.14 Stable

We have a menu link that links to a section and shows the categories in that section
- we can set the order the categories are displayed in no problem.

The problem we are experiencing arises when we click a category from the list on the page to view the articles in that category. The system just defaults to showing the newest article first.

Everything we try just applies to the category list in the section, but not to the articles when we click into the category.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:55 am 
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1.5.14

I created a couple new sections and categories, submitted articles, and now i find the php reorder com_content arrows in the article manager missing for those articles.

I must be doing something wrong methinks.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:02 am 
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@Joskhuu and jefftech,
Sorry for the late response. I wasn't receiving updates from this thread.

The point here is that, if you have a category that is accessible through a menu item, the ordering will be controlled by that menu item's parameters. Editing the menu item in the Menu Item Manager, under "Parameters(Advanced)", you have the "Primary Ordering" option. That parameter controls how the articles are sorted when that category is show. It defaults to "Default" (no pun intended), which means descending by creation date. If you want it to stick to the ordering in the Articles Manager, change it to "Order".

@attilahooper,
Usually that happens when you change the ordering by clicking on a column header. In that case, Joomla will remember your selection and the arrows will be grayed out. Try Clicking on the "Order" column header and see if the arrows come back.

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