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grayz

Post subject: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:36 pm

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I've been looking for a solution allowing creation/saving of article aliases having non-ASCII-7 characters.

Currently all non-ASCII-7 characters are being cleaned-up by transliterate() and stringURLSafe() functions.

As far as I understood, having non-ANCII letters in the URL will not create problems for SEF engine and the article could be opened. I'm I right? If yes, how could I acooplish the task?

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:48 pm

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No way to do this anymore with Joomla.
Any url with utf8 glyphs is translated (also with simple latin-1).
If you don't, you get that kind:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... iant=zh-tw

and it gets very looooooooong when one is getting to a category item with a very long title

To use Ascii 7 is a simple and secure solution.

Note: to get the older behaviour means a lot of changes in core.

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grayz

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:04 pm

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Thanks for the reply. Not good news, of cause...

Even if I convert the title from UTF-8 into ISO-8859-5 and try to make the alias - it will not help?

Also, if you could provide more info/links about the question, I'll appreciate it very much. I'll help me to study the quesion in details, as technically it seems to be possible (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кодировка this page is in UTF-8 encoding).

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:15 pm

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http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0% ... 0%BA%D0%B0 is the real slug.

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grayz

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:55 am

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Hm... It seems that only translit (http://translit.us/) could be used in the URLs.
As far as I understood some of the "non-ASCII" search engines take into cosideration of the URLs as they can decode them back into original language.

Thanks, infograf768.

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:43 pm

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gerilla

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:44 am

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grayz wrote:

hi,
which page the title converting alias. i mean where the transliterate() and stringURLSafe() functions used. i wanna add a alias code before them but i couldnt find them.

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:34 pm

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libraries/joomla/language/language.php

and

libraries/joomla/filter/filteroutput.php

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gerilla

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:34 pm

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infograf768 wrote:

libraries/joomla/language/language.php

and

libraries/joomla/filter/filteroutput.php

i made it. thank you very very much...

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:10 am

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Out of pure curiosity, what did you change in order to get what?

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gerilla

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:24 pm

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infograf768 wrote:

Out of pure curiosity, what did you change in order to get what?

i added replace codes for some Non ASCII-7 Turkish characters which joomla cant convert them latin correctly. now the titles which contain Non ASCII-7 characters converted to alias automatically.

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:15 am

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Could you share more?
What are the Turkish non-latin characters involved and the code you added or changed in the 2 files?

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gerilla

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:13 am

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infograf768 wrote:

Could you share more?
What are the Turkish non-latin characters involved and the code you added or changed in the 2 files?

sorry my fault...

the characters are : ş ı ü ö ğ ç

i added the code in transliterate() function at libraries/joomla/language/language.php file (i do not made any change at libraries/joomla/filter/filteroutput.php)

her is the code i added:

Code:

      $string = JString::strtolower($string);
      $tr = array('ğ','ü','ş','ö','ç', 'ı');
      $en = array('g','u','s','o','c', 'i');
      $string = JString::str_ireplace($tr, $en, $string);

so, the string converted to ASCII-7 characters first and then converted to alias correctly. (i saved the file utf-8 format).

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gencom

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:28 pm

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thanks i need this

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glimbeek

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:24 am

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What's the verdict on this? Is this a good solution? Has this been fixed in a newer version off Joomla? All I can find is, is that a solution is planned for 1.6.

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:17 am

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The solution is implemented in 1.6.
Plugins are available for 1.5.

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glimbeek

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:31 am

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Thanks for the fast reply.

With the risk off asking something I might find myself....
I looked into the plugins, but I couldn't find 1 that could accomplish what I'm looking for. I found 1 that came close: http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... t/sef/7132 but that doesn't support the Turkish language.

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:19 pm

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glimbeek wrote:

This one should do.
It can be customized for any language.

Attachment:

plgTurkceAlias12.txt

Change suffix .txt to .zip to install.

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gencom

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:43 am

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i konw im used more ago thanks

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glimbeek

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:53 am

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So what does this plugin do? My site has a fair few language that use "odd" characters, can I be sure that nothing will change and that it will only "function" for the Turkish language?

Do I need to use/install something else to make this work? Like a Turkish front-end language?

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:19 am

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This plugin just adds plain transliteration for some Latin Extended-A characters out of the box when you create a new article. It does not modify existing aliases, nor does it forces you to do anyhting as you can control the alias.

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glimbeek

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:45 pm

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Thank you for your great support infograf768, I installed the plugin and tested it and it seems to be working.

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:08 pm

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In fact, folks, some people WANT utf8 in the slugs.
I have provided a plugin to just do that.

http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions ... /sef/10275

Enjoy!

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TiMmy19

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:53 pm

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this code doesnt works or something wrong...

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marcgpx

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:43 am

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gerilla thank you very much for this useful lang modification.
I use it for my native language
you save a lot of time

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burek

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:41 am

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I know this is an old thread, but still, someone could find this useful.
I've did the same thing for Serbian language (which also had problems converting accented letters).
The code is completely the same as for the Turkish letters, only file names are changed (to reflect the usage) and of course, the accented letters themselves (š, đ, č, ć, ž) => (s, dj, c, c, z).

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tbarbone

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:17 am

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Found this forum very useful. Thanks everybody.
thanks,
Tino

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zarvan

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:24 am

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i have a question about it
is it usefull for seo ?

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bbb16

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:09 am

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Hi all!
I tried to make the same thing for Hungarian language but this plugin (as the original -turkish- one) broke the whole site (backend & frontend).
Joomla! 2.5.0 Stable

Any ideas?

thanks
-bbb-

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infograf768

Post subject: Re: Non ASCII-7 characters in URL (article alias)

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:59 pm

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bbb16 wrote:

Hi all!
I tried to make the same thing for Hungarian language but this plugin (as the original -turkish- one) broke the whole site (backend & frontend).
Joomla! 2.5.0 Stable

Any ideas?

thanks
-bbb-

2.5 is totally different.

There is a default transliterate file which does transliterate Turkish as well as Hungarian characters.
If someone wants only specific ascii aliases, a function has to be added in the xx-XX.localise.php of the language folder.

These plugins are useless in 2.5.

If you have a question concerning 2.5, please post in 2.5 forums.

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