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mandville
 Post subject: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:30 am 
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For review and comments

to replace http://docs.joomla.org/How_do_you_move_ ... ic_html%3F
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http://docs.joomla.org/Moving_outside_public_html
for simpler reading.

Also the title may need redoing on the new document please. :-[

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Chris Davenport
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:51 am 
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How about we call it "Moving sensitive files outside the web root"?

That gets rid of the question mark and removes the "public_html" which is platform-dependent.

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mandville
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:15 am 
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sounds great, thanks Chris.
did you look at the plugin request for the wiki or is that beyond scope?

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Chris Davenport
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:32 am 
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I don't see any problem with adding it. It's on my to-do list.

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:39 am 
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Thanks on both counts.
Hope you can see the reason for the plugin from the WG emails.

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Chris Davenport
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:26 pm 
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Ok, I've moved the page as requested and redirected both the old pages to the new one.

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 am 
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Chris,

Someone found that The Faq's page still has the old information on it. I have asked Claire if we can fix this faq page or redirect that faq to the new page. Whichever is best.

Faq page:
http://docs.joomla.org/Security_and_Per ... ic_html.3F

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:39 am 
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the new page is the http://docs.joomla.org/Moving_sensitive ... e_web_root one.
as i said to Phild,
2 options c&p the new info in or put a to "see details go here " link

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Chris Davenport
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:21 am 
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Actually there's a third option...

Use a little wiki magic and embed one page inside another. It's called transclusion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transclusion and it's one of the major reasons that we moved the documentation to a wiki.

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:03 pm 
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go for it Chris "wikimaster" Davenport!
sounds good idea

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
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I second the motion :D

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Chris Davenport
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:47 pm 
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Done. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:06 pm 
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..and you cant even see the join! sleeeeeeek.... thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:30 pm 
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Chris Davenport wrote:
Ok, I've moved the page as requested and redirected both the old pages to the new one.

Chris.


I know this thread is quite old but it seems you didn't redirect any of the initial URLs.

When I visit them I see the same content and I'm not redirected to the new page, so basically you have 3 wiki pages with the exact same content.

Was it intended?

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:05 pm 
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Can you post the urls?

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:19 am 
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Sure.

The correct one is: http://docs.joomla.org/Moving_sensitive ... e_web_root

The old ones that had to redirect to the new one:

http://docs.joomla.org/How_do_you_move_ ... ic_html%3F
http://docs.joomla.org/Moving_outside_public_html

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:10 pm 
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This is my take on what is happening. I could be wrong and Chris would know for sure so maybe he will comment.

It looks like both
http://docs.joomla.org/How_do_you_move_ ... ic_html%3F
http://docs.joomla.org/Moving_outside_public_html
are redirecting to the new page, but I would have to guess that the Transclusion maintains the old urls. There is essentially one page and the other two pages have the information they originally contained removed (they are blank) and replaced with the main documents information making the 3 pages. Behind the scenes there is only one actual page that if updated or edited will update the other two. The effect you see is 3 different urls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transclusion

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:08 am 
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Interesting! Thanks a lot Phil D, I never heard about "Transclusions".

When I read "redirect" I immediately thought about URL redirect which seems to not be the case here.

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
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There is no transclusion involved on these pages. It is a simple case of two pages redirecting to a third which is the only page with real content. The other two URL's will give a 301 Moved permanently if you enter them in your browser.

There are no pages that link to the redirected URL's so the redirections could be deleted now. What do you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
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Sounds good to me Chris. And thanks for clearing things up.

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Chris Davenport
 Post subject: Re: Update of wiki page.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:58 am 
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Redirections have now been deleted.

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Click on the "Edit" button in the top near-right corner. If the Wikipedia page is protected from editing, you will see "View source" instead of "Edit" and will be unable to edit.
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