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alexkasgr
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:09 am 
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Hello,

I am still having the same login issue I had with version 1.5.16 now that I updated to 1.5.17.
Any ideas?
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DanneSt
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:35 am 
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Same problem here, as I describe in this thread.
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alexeysm
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:08 am 
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DanneSt wrote:
Same problem here, as I describe in this thread.


Unfortunately developers seem to not understand the problem or don't admit that there is one.

They included in this update only code hacks that were described before in FAQ to 1.5.16. Those do not solve the problem.

The hints are:
1. Backend admin login worked in 1.5.15 and ceased to work in .16 and ever since. The update obviously have caused it.
2. Something wrong with session management. I examined the jos_session table. Every attempt to login with correct admin name/password creates a new session record. But they not hold the session. So the scripts do not understand that session is established and break to create a new one.
3. I described in previous thread how you DO can login into backend (quickly push the login button several times until error message, then press enter in address bar). But this login works only until the first operation made. That also proves something wrong with session.
4. The type of session handler (database/none) changes nothing. The problem is elsewhere.

Maybe this all happens only with specific hosting configuration. I don't know.
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DanneSt
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:31 am 
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alexeysm wrote:
3. I described in previous thread how you DO can login into backend (quickly push the login button several times until error message, then press enter in address bar). But this login works only until the first operation made. That also proves something wrong with session.
This was maybe the way I got it to work the other night! Don't remember exactly do to the late hour...
Anyway, this trick doesn't work a second time for me. :(
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alexeysm
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:51 am 
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DanneSt wrote:
alexeysm wrote:
3. I described in previous thread how you DO can login into backend (quickly push the login button several times until error message, then press enter in address bar). But this login works only until the first operation made. That also proves something wrong with session.
This was maybe the way I got it to work the other night! Don't remember exactly do to the late hour...
Anyway, this trick doesn't work a second time for me. :(


It works. Try again. You should enter correct admin login and password and then push login exactly 3 times (there is double click, and this is triple click).

So you do not let the web page start loading. After Invalid token message click on address line and press enter (just loading the same page).

Mystics! :geek:
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DanneSt
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:08 am 
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alexeysm wrote:
It works. Try again. You should enter correct admin login and password and then push login exactly 3 times (there is double click, and this is triple click).

So you do not let the web page start loading.
Trying and trying, but do hardly make 3 clicks before page starts to load. Am at day-work right now, I'll try this at home later this day!
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alexeysm
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:40 am 
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Switched off GZip and SSL for administration panel in Global configuration, and backend login works again without any tricks. Something wrong with either of these options.

Update: It is SSL for administration panel that causes this login problem.
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DanneSt
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alexeysm wrote:
Switched off GZip and SSL for administration panel in Global configuration, and backend login works again without any tricks. Something wrong with either of these options.

Update: It is SSL for administration panel that causes this login problem.
Great work alexeysm!
Is it possible to switch this off through the database (via phpmyadmin) since I can't do it via backend?
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DanneSt
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Turning off SSL didn't make a different, neither the 3-click-method. :(
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Lyn
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:32 pm 
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Commenting out line 533 of /libraries/joomla/application/application.php is the only way I can get to the backed admin after upgrading to 1.5.17
Code:
// $session->fork();
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uweboldtus
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Lyn,

you are a genius. Finally it works for me!! But what does the commenting out of that line else imply. Do you have any idea?

Many thanks.
Uwe
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alexkasgr
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:59 pm 
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Commenting out this line didn't work for me... I updated to 1.5.17 using the .zip package and also by uploading a new 1.5.17 package... any ideas?
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Halavattu
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:43 am 
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Lyn wrote:
Commenting out line 533 of /libraries/joomla/application/application.php is the only way I can get to the backed admin after upgrading to 1.5.17
Code:
// $session->fork();


Worked for me, thanks.
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therealT
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:14 am 
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Lyn wrote:
Commenting out line 533 of /libraries/joomla/application/application.php is the only way I can get to the backed admin after upgrading to 1.5.17
Code:
// $session->fork();



OMFG I reinstalled my joomla two times! There ARE TWO PROBLEMS WITH 1.5.17.
1. Can't login to front end AND back end. This was very frustrating! Commenting out $session->fork(); did the trick. Thank you Lyn for this solution!
2. Router.php messed up! <-- googled this solution.. had to add couple lines. I couldn't login since my acesef kept rewriting the urls WRONGLY!
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joomajoom
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:28 am 
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So would you all advise an upgrade to 1.5.17 from 1.5.15 or 1.5.16, I'm a bit scared now after reading all these posts of being locked out. My clients will not like that!
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DanneSt
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There's probably something happening with the database when upgrading to 1.15.16, apparently even with 1.1.5.17! The lack of comment on this newly discovered issue from the joomla-crew is bothering, but I hope they are testing and trying to verify it.

I have a lot of customers left to upgrade from 1.15.15 but I won't do that before 1.1.5.18 is published with a discribed correction of tha problems I and many with me have with the two latest upgrades! So the answer to your question from me is no, i wouldn't advise you.
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Alex53
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:19 pm 
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On the same boat here.

Commenting that line out didnt help in my case.
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BlackMage
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:17 pm 
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Fresh install, commenting did not help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:14 pm 
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DanneSt wrote:
There's probably something happening with the database when upgrading to 1.15.16, apparently even with 1.1.5.17! The lack of comment on this newly discovered issue from the joomla-crew is bothering, but I hope they are testing and trying to verify it.

@DanneSt
The databases were not touched with any upgrade since early in the release of J1.5.x. series so your assertion is completely wrong!

Suggest rather than criticising the developers and those that have tried to help you in the multiple threads you keep posting to with the same points, you should review everything you have done so far, and follow the advice that has been provided.
THEN provide precise details of what the errors are that you are receiving, precise details of all the things you have tried, details of log entries, system specification, all the extensions you have added to your system, all the core hacks you have made, template overrides and as much well presented data as you can rather than all the "tried that and did not work" comments that have been bandied around.
The developers may then be able to consider what you are reporting and come up with a solution.
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pamitha
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:28 pm 
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Commenting out line 533 worked for me, thanks!

I also am concerned - does anyone know if there are other consequences to disabling this line? I'm just going ahead with it disabled right now. Hopefully nothing else breaks.
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SketchWork
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:19 pm 
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I experienced this issue too. Commenting out the line after the upgrade allowed me to login, but I am wondering what else could have been affected by commenting out the line ???

Justin
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alexkasgr
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:39 am 
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Here is an update of my problem.

I restored a backup of my site that I had 1.5.15 (some 2 weeks ago). Deleted all files and database and completely restored it, but still can't login! The crazy thing is that I locally installed my site from the backup archive in 3 different pc and I could login only in 1 of them!
I also created an administrator account using SQL as said in the documentation, but it didn't work.

My last thought is that maybe there is some problem with JFusion I used to bridge my joomla website with a phpbb forum... but really didn't expect the backup restoration to fail again! :(
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wtorbeyns
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:15 pm 
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I have little useful to add; but would like to share my experience.
I upgraded from 1.5.14 to 1.5.17. I was locked out of both the back-end and the front-end. I tried several things: my first thought went to jFusion, but turning that off didn't solve anything; I changed sessionhandler tot 'database', but that doesn't change anything. Only commenting out line 533 gave me access.
Code:
PHP gebouwd op: Linux domusmedica.be 2.6.9-89.0.23.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Mar 5 17:56:21 EST 2010 i686
Databaseversie: 4.1.20-log
Database collatie: utf8_general_ci
PHP versie: 5.1.2
Webserver: Apache
Webserver naar PHP interface: apache2handler
Joomla! versie: Joomla! 1.5.17 Stable [ Wojmamni ama woobusani ] 27-April-2010 04:00 GMT
Gebruikersagent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; nl; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3

Thanks to the Joomla community for all the great support. I hope we'll soon get an 'official' solution.
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cttnam
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Works for me, thanks Lyn. Humvee any ideas when we can expect an official answer
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DanneSt
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humvee wrote:
DanneSt wrote:
There's probably something happening with the database when upgrading to 1.15.16, apparently even with 1.1.5.17! The lack of comment on this newly discovered issue from the joomla-crew is bothering, but I hope they are testing and trying to verify it.

@DanneSt
The databases were not touched with any upgrade since early in the release of J1.5.x. series so your assertion is completely wrong!
Yes, I agree with you that I did an assertion in my own thread based on my tests with fresh installs in new folders that I couldn't believe was a problem based upon the files. If that's proven wrong I beg your pardon.

humvee wrote:
Suggest rather than criticising the developers and those that have tried to help you in the multiple threads you keep posting to with the same points, you should review everything you have done so far, and follow the advice that has been provided.
I've tried to keep my problem in one thread but the first got closed when 1.15.17 got published, and though my problem still excisted I started my own thread.
I've made som replies in other threads trying to help people with my results of testing and failures. If that's not how this forum works I'm sorry for my behavior and will keep it in mind.

I'm VERY greatful for you and all you others trying to help me! Did NOT mean to criticize you or the developers, but when I read my comment again I can see that's sure looks like it... My bad!

humvee wrote:
THEN provide precise details of what the errors are that you are receiving, precise details of all the things you have tried, details of log entries, system specification, all the extensions you have added to your system, all the core hacks you have made, template overrides and as much well presented data as you can rather than all the "tried that and did not work" comments that have been bandied around.
The developers may then be able to consider what you are reporting and come up with a solution.
Yes. I should do that. Maybe the Forum Post Assistant should be a "Must-Have" in all installations? :)
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DanneSt
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wtorbeyns wrote:
I have little useful to add; but would like to share my experience.
I upgraded from 1.5.14 to 1.5.17. I was locked out of both the back-end and the front-end. I tried several things: my first thought went to jFusion, but turning that off didn't solve anything; I changed sessionhandler tot 'database', but that doesn't change anything. Only commenting out line 533 gave me access.
Maybe this is only an issue if you have jFusion installed, and it must be turned off for the 533-fix to work? How do I turn jFusion off without being able to log in? I guess adjusting a file via FTP, but which one? :)
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humvee
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One further snippet that has come from all the investigation going on is that there appears to have been a bug with PHP version 5.1.2 that was subsequently fixed in PHP 5.1.3
Quote:
Fixed bug #36872 (session_destroy() fails after call to session_regenerate_id(true)). (Ilia)
from PHP changelog which may be contributing to some of the issues some people have been having, where appropriate speak to your hosts and get them to upgrade.
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wtorbeyns
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DanneSt wrote:
How do I turn jFusion off without being able to log in? I guess adjusting a file via FTP, but which one? :)


For information on turning jFusion on or off without access to the backend of Joomla, take a look at their forum:

http://www.jfusion.org/index.php/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1900

However, this seems to be unrelated to this issue caused by upgrading to Joomla 1.5.16 or 17.

Regards, Wim
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pamitha
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Just a note, I do not have JFusion installed but still had to comment out line 533 - so I don't think that's it.

I will have to check with my sysadmin on what version of PHP we're running.

Still experiencing no noticeable repercussions from commenting out 533.
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agbandini
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Isolved the problem commenting the 533 line.

Only A question about this problem:

this "bug" will be fixed on the next version 1.5.18???
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