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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby kenmcd » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:24 am

brad wrote:
kenmcd wrote:
Wow.
Someone must have spent a lot of time gathering that list of extensions.


Yeah, Cy talks about him here: http://www.joomla.org/content/view/985/74/ ;)

Hope you like it Ken 8)


Yes, I do like it.
Nice to be acknowledged.
Thank you.


p.s. still building the list - about double now.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby mediamagnate » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:31 am

Yes, well done Ken.

Thank you for your efforts.

It's appreciated.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby TheSaint » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:40 am

Just submitted a couple reviews for two of my favorite extentions:

Community Builder and joomlaXplorer.

Don't forget to post your thoughts and help others regarding the application of each download. The more feedback the better. This baby rocks, drinks all around to anyone that made in happen should you ever visit the Central Coast.

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby Chris » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:47 am

That is what we needed.
Thanks guys.

One thing though, get rid of $ambo her:

This calendar & mini-calendar are ports of the gorgeous-looking ExtCalendar 2 by Mohamed Moujami at http://extcal.sourceforge.net . Not as native to Mambo as the popular Events Calendar project, but is extremely beautiful, functional, and far easier to use.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby hinesw » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:49 am

Amazing Job!!!!!!!!!

Question - What do I do with the spare time I will have, that I use to spend looking for extention that would work in Joomla!!!

Thanks to all concerned (have the rest of the week off)!!

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby gsbe » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:58 am

Chris wrote:One thing though, get rid of $ambo her:


We tried to use official descriptions of extensions. You will find many references to other projects in this directory until developers come in and update their listings. Thanks, I have updated this extension listing to reflect their latest information from J!Forge.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby Takster » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:43 am

Great to see the extentions in this way, now i just know im gonna be stuck in there browsing for the next couple hours...its my day off.  ;D

Keep up the great work all.

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby rdb » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:58 am

Amen !

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby focalguy » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:12 am

I would like to echo all the praise already given. I too remember people dissatisfied with the forge. Can't say I wasn't one of them. It was something that I thought would be nice but kind of forgot about it as I knew people were busy doing so much else and then you go and spring it on us! Here I am ready to go to bed and I read this and now my pulse is up again! This will help all members but especially the new!! Thanks all who contributed.

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby puru » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:13 am

>:(

Please dont do this.. First you release 1.0.8, then you launch extesion site... My gawd.. I am spending more time on Joomla.org than developing the sites.. Why, why do you release new stuff so fast..?? Atleast give us time to enjoy the previous ones...


By the way, the extensions site is awesome!  :-* Just what we wanted. Way to go.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby TheSaint » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:32 am

I am spending more time on Joomla.org than developing the sites..


Sometimes I wonder the same thing. Even if they turned off post counts I would still spend way too much time on forum.joomla.org. You can get too much of a good thing.
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$250,000 of software - for FREE

Postby kenmcd » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:05 am

The amount of value contained in all the free extensions for Joomla, and in Joomla itself, is staggering if you try to attach a value to it.

The new Joomla Extensions site contains approximately 314 extensions.
A few of these are commercial extensions, so let's use 310.
(the actual number of extensions is much larger than what is listed here, so this is low)
Software developers are paid anywhere from $20/hour to $50/hour or more.
Easily a low average would be to use $30/hour in calculations.

Even the most simple Joomla extension requires 10 to 20 hours of coding and testing.
Some components are easily hundreds of hours (Community Builder).
The average extension represents hours and hours of contributed value.
OpenSEF is already many, many, many hours of work (easily 150 hours +).
Let's use 15 hours per extension in the calculations.

So let's add up a very conservative estimate of the value represented in the extensions listed in the Joomla extensions site.
310 extensions x 15 hours development per extension x $30/hour = $139,500
A ridiculously low estimate of the value of the extensions is well over $100,000 - for FREE.

Let's add the value of the Joomla core development.
30 to 40 to 50 talented individuals contributing hundreds of hours - for FREE.
Let's say 40 people x 100 hours each x $30/hour.
This estimate is low.
There have been more people and more hours than this.
40 people x 100 hours x $30/hour = $120,000

So a ridiculously simple and ridiculously low estimate of the value contained in the Joomla Extensions site and in the Joomla Forge is over $250,000.

A better set of figures may easily exceed $500,.000 or even $1 million in value.
Simply awesome.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby Brett » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:20 am

kenmcd wrote:Open source - it does not get any better.



Amen to that!
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby scubaguy » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:26 am

great work! This was much needed and very well executed.  :)
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby leolam » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:36 am

Long awaited and hoped for and finally something to replace my pre-programmed link in my answers http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,25317.0.html 46.000 hits!

established by Ken McDonald originally (with deep respect for the contribution)

Replaced in my pre-programmed buttons by http://extensions.joomla.org/

AWESOME JOB AND VERY NICE IMPLEMENTATION!

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CONGRATS TO TONIE!

Postby leolam » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:07 am

Congratulations to Tonie:: 3.420 posts it is amazing! 17 posts per day avarage!

But now he has no more time for the Joomla Forum-Zoo?
Did you know he lives near the Zoo in Rotterdam- Netherlands? They also see him go with pain in the heart  :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby leolam » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:49 am

Question:

What will be done with bots for instance which are currently listed in Ken/Guilliam's list, not being contributed or uploaded by the author but by others? I refer now to mod_kl_evalphp for instance? Developed by Konlong (John Long) but never posted in the forge so how do we get one in or was it just forgotten? (kl_php is in though)

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby sc00zy » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:21 am

What an improvement! Great work guys! :)
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby eddyyanto » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:22 am

Thumbs-up for all you guys who make this into realization.  :laugh:

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby TomT » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:38 am

Thanks to all who are involved in this new essential Joomla branch! The pace of development of this great project keeps being very impressive.
The only thing that is still missing is the Paypal donation button  ;).

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby philmoz » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:40 am

alf149 wrote:Excellent work guys.
but why du i have to registe agian ? im on the forum ?

@alf149

http://extensions.joomla.org/content/view/15/63/
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Basically, you really don't need to register on the site, unless you are going to list an extension, is the way I read it.
... and if that is right, I think it is a good move.

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby stingrey » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:48 am

philmoz wrote:Basically, you really don't need to register on the site, unless you are going to list an extension, is the way I read it.
... and if that is right, I think it is a good move.

This is correct.
Registration and login is only for Extension Maintainers - those who will manage the information regards a listing.

Normal usres/visitors do not need to register.  They simply browse and click.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby stingrey » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:57 am

I'd just like to publicly applaud the efforts of everyone of the individuals who worked togethyer to make this new site possible.
Its taken quite a lot of coordinated man hours by willing and dedicated volunteers from across the globe working as a team - another great example of Open Source at its best.

Kudos to another successful collaborative community effort.
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby paulmark » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:58 am

Great work.  Thie Joomla Extension feature is yet another affirmation that this community and product rocks!
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby eyezberg » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:00 am

Congrats for being promoted to Core, Tonie, well deserved.

About the extension site: that sucks! :D
I had started something similar a long time ago: http://www.mambo-help.com/mambo ("parts" menu on the right..)
but had to stop at some point because there's just too much for one single person to handle...
If you need any help.. ;)
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby philmoz » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:02 am

stingrey wrote:
Registration and login is only for Extension Maintainers - those who will manage the information regards a listing.

Normal usres/visitors do not need to register.  They simply browse and click.

... except if you wish to rate or review....

How can this be handled?

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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby TheSaint » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:14 am

philmoz,

You can register and rate/review. It seems to be working just fine on this end despite the fact that I don't have any published extentions. Perhaps the text needs to be updated?
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby idigital » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:23 am

Wow  :)

This is going to make is so very much easier to tell people where to go on the #joomla channel.

I mean, tell them where to go to find extensions!  :laugh:

Excellent work guys, I think this extensions site will really add to the growth in the community!
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Re: Discussion about: It's Time to Celebrate the Freedom — Yet Again!

Postby mediawizard » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:45 am

Awesome guys, this is truly manna from heaven.

With the amount of time one spends on various sources trying to find what will fit.
(On fifteen different sources at last count)

Ken's list more than helped save a lot of time - but this is excellent.

Now I have to figure out what to do with our downloads section on Jooms ;)
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Re: CONGRATS TO TONIE!

Postby Tonie » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:10 am

leolam wrote:But now he has no more time for the Joomla Forum-Zoo?

Luck mate and don't forget to make time for Linda!  8)


I actually have a year pass for the zoo :), makes for excellent strolls with my girlfriend on a lazy sunday afternoon.


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