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Webdongle
 Post subject: Re: Thank you
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:50 pm 
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speaking of stayin on top of updates , what is the issue that I can not use PHP 5.3 with joomla according to godaddy. ....

Perhaps do a search of the forum for gddy and issues with them as host's. I have xampp for localhost and that uses php v. 5.3.5 and Joomla runs nicely on that. My shared Hosting is with www.pixelinternet.co.uk. There are few issues with their server. A friend of mine recently got a Hosting package with www.1and1.co.uk and they have great support. Hope that information helps you.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:50 am 
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bbpete wrote:
I can not use PHP 5.3 with joomla according to godaddy.
Joomla runs perfectly well on PHP 5.3. All our servers in our hosting operations run per definition PHP5.3.6 (latest stable), compiled with Apache2.2.17/Mysql5.1.56/suPHP/suHosin/eAccellerator and Joomla 1.7 runs like a high speed bullet-train

Just a remark of one of those "superb" Go(ohno)Daddy" 'technicians' who absolutely have no idea where they talk about as many have proven time after time. One of our clients had a problem recently about 1 1/2 month ago and I filed a ticket for him. This tech of Go(ohno)Daddy came back telling me that Joomla only runs on PHP4 ......(as Webdongle mentioned: check the forums and search for godaddy)

Just realize what the guidelines of Joomla are and see how hilarious these kind of responses are (and rest assured: Go(ohno)Daddy is not the only one for sure!) review the technical requirements for Joomla and these are real and very well tested and running well on dozens of platforms.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:13 am 
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@bbpete : godaddy gives you free hosting even if you buy a discounted .info domain, what do you expect ? they've troubles even running a simple wordpress as far as i heard...

@peter & the others : sorry i wasn't trying to start a flame war, just a honest opinion exchange.

@Leo : maybe you misunderstood, i'm 100% for commercial software, never wrote a single line for free in my career, i code for joomla/wordpress/dotnetnuke and .NET, i've nothing against you.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:55 am 
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Mimimum requirements for 1.7 is php 5.2.4.
5.3.x is fine.

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Thanks for the feedback, guys, the warning was actually on the install tab in gd control panel with red and it would not let me install via that method, and when i called tech support he said that 5.3 drops some features that 1.7 needs and there would be a new release that would work with it soon.
this is before I learned I could download directly.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:50 pm 
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dubois wrote:
@bbpete : godaddy gives you free hosting even if you buy a discounted .info domain, what do you expect ? they've troubles even running a simple wordpress as far as i heard...

I'm not using a free hosting package, although I did make the mistake of setting up the free instant page before I realized it was not my paid host. I am having some slow upload times I am seriously considering moving this to my server and asking for a refund before I get to much on this host.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:29 am 
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@bbpete, if you have the option to move from godaddy, please do so. It will save you hours/days of frustration in the long run :)

@everyone, Joomla 1.7 is awesome! I'm really loving it! It's pretty amazing that I can build an awesome small to medium sized site in few days with little to no programming or design background! Cheers to Joomla and cheers to Joomla's community!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:45 am 
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bbpete wrote:
and when i called tech support he said that 5.3 drops some features that 1.7 needs and there would be a new release that would work with it soon
Which once again is totally and utterly nonsense and without any merit. One more example of what I described earlier about Go(ohno)Daddy.

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and when i called tech support he said that 5.3 drops some features that 1.7 needs and there would be a new release that would work with it soon
Sounds like an excuse for them not to do their job correctly.

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i wouldn't blame the godaddy techs too much.

godaddy's marketing plan is about being the cheapest vendor in the market, so they simply have no money to pay professional tech guys with a vast experience on apache/IIS and the hundreds of different CMS around and all the different setups in between.

you always get what you pay for, godaddy is good only for buying domains, i use them and i'm pretty happy but i would never ever buy their hosting plans especially the VPNs !

get a decent shared hosting instead, Bluehost/hostmonster is cheap and good for instance, 5-6$/months, you have cPanel, unlimited subdomains, and joomla runs like a charm.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:48 pm 
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dubois wrote:
godaddy's marketing plan is about being the cheapest vendor in the market, so they simply have no money to pay professional tech guys with a vast experience on apache/IIS and the hundreds of different CMS around and all the different setups in between.
Strange argumentation and is a contradiction to what you write yourself once again. Bluehost, goDaddy and Hostmonster all charge US$ 5,95 for their entry package so their goes the argument that goDaddy cannot afford to have good service because they are cheap and Bluehost has good service (according to you, let's make that clear for sure) since they are also cheap...

The argument about hundreds of different CMS is also a shot in the wide blue air since neither of the mentioned providers support more than the auto installers they provide. Next: No hosting company is supporting scripts aka Joomla/Wordpress or Drupal to mention a few unless they have it as special service packages incorporated.

So Dubois your post has no merit imho once again

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:54 pm 
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Folks, please let's focus on the topic which is 1.7.0 released, i.e feedback about the release.
GD or other hosting qualities/defaults is OT here.

Thanks for your understanding.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:19 am 
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You are right JM. Excuse moi :)

@Mods feel free to move all related posts to the Lounge or something?

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i'm not sure it's completely offtopic : if joomla 1.7 has so many troubles installing on a few popular hosting providers it's indeed a topic to discuss and the architecture of the joomla installer should eventually take these issues into account for the next version.

one of the reasons godaddy has troubles is because J1.6 and J1.7 have stricter server pre-requirements than J1.5, so was it a good decision or not ? nowhere in the installer joomla will tell you your hosting is crap for instance, this "feature" should be much more prominent in my opinion and also more verbose about what the user can do to fix the issue.

the average user have no idea about all the technical apache or php features listed in the installer, they use a CMS exactly because they are not programmers in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:26 am 
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Joomla 1.7 has a Required Configuration check during installation. You can also see:
http://www.joomla.org/technical-requirements.html

Joomla 1.7 installs perfectly fine.

If you're going to be critical, the least you could do is be accurate.

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Dubois, the installer warns for requirements which you don't achieve.
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while there was a warning, the install went very well and everything is apparently working as it should.
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i was not talking about warnings during installation but of bugs and error messages while using the CMS on some hostings.

i had the bad idea of trying GoDaddy a few years ago and had a long list of troubles despite the CMS i installed gave no problem during installation.
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A question, will my 1.7 template work with 1.8?
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shadowstep0705 wrote:
A question, will my 1.7 template work with 1.8?


No one can tell for sure but if changes are needed they will be very small. (Like for 1.7 some minor CSS adjustments were needed)
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shadowstep0705 wrote:
A question, will my 1.7 template work with 1.8?


No one can tell for sure but if changes are needed they will be very small. (Like for 1.7 some minor CSS adjustments were needed)


Ok thanks, will the changes be listed so that I will know what to do in order to update?
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We'll most likely have a document like this one again: http://docs.joomla.org/Potential_backwa ... tform_11.1
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Joomla 1.8 will never see the light. http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leade ... re-in.html Also see http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leade ... rsion.html

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leolam wrote:
Joomla 1.8 will never see the light. http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leade ... re-in.html Also see http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leade ... rsion.html

Leo 8)


It's just a name.

I don't know what everyone is whining about, it's just a number :p
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It's just a name.
I don't know what everyone is whining about, it's just a number :p
Your reactions shows that you either did not read the messages properly and have therefor no idea what this is about or you do not understand the importance and significance of STL and LTS.........Do not make unfounded remarks if you have no idea where you reply about? Suggest you actually read and digest the issue. The video embedded in the second post is actually rather enlightening on the issue.

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