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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby newart » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:20 pm

over wrote: Nothing is mentioned about allowing session cookies.


Surely about "cookie mentioning" is easy to find a solution. But the problem is still there... and the solution cannot be a joomla one, obviously. :(
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby over » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:56 pm

Hi newart,
it's the first time I saw Joomla! Virtuoso as a "title" I'm very positively impressed!

Is this realy a Php session problem? Couldn't the Joomla session be started by a Joomla event?

Wrong topic!, I know, but it is an important item for all addressing the EU world not only the EU countries themselfes.

Edit: Referring to the nice neighbors is no argument in front of a court.

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby tobul » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:55 pm

Hi. I just build my fist sime on joomla 1.7 with template and extensions (took a lot of time) ...
I wonder if i will upgrade to 2.5 when it out officially everything will remain as the same?

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby alikon » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:04 pm

test the upgrade on a copy of your site
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby herdoftwo » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:23 am

I am new to Joomla and considering trying it out. I am concerned, however, with all these releases. It seems, from what I've been reading, that when a new version is released, people start having problems with their websites when they upgrade to the new release. This really concerns me. Will this be addressed in version 2.5 and in upcoming versions? Will all versions seamlessly update/upgrade? I would not consider using software that would cause me to have to re-do all or part of my website every few months. This seems crazy. Am I missing something? Joomla seems to be popular despite what seems to me to be a huge drawback. I'd love some feedback on these concerns.

Thanks!

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby leolam » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:49 am

herdoftwo wrote:what seems to me to be a huge drawback
Joomla 1.0 to Joomla 1.5 and followed by Joomla 1.6/7 were all migrations, needed since Joomla was written from ground up. Joomla 1.5 is now at version 1.5.25 = 25 releases which include bugfixes and security fixes. Upgrades within the versions are simply overwriting the files via ftp...piece of cake. If one runs now Joomla 1.5 and needs to go to 2.5 it will be a full migration because of the code base rewritten after 3 years (!) Upgrade 1.7 to 2.5 is a simple mouse click in the admin backend.....The current versions have fully automated upgrade checks and fully one-click upgrades for extensions. 2.5 is a Long Term Support release and will last long. Nothing to worry for new users going now with Joomla

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby herdoftwo » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:27 am

Thanks Leo...I'll give it a try.

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby HuGu » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:35 pm

i have not finished understanding 1.7 yet and my little brain seems to burst to understand 2.5 and beta LOL!

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby HuGu » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:23 pm

HuGu wrote:i have not finished understanding 1.7 yet and my little brain seems to burst to understand 2.5 and beta LOL!


but i think the 2.5 beta is much simplier than the first versions, starting with "viewing" staight hair gets curly with the 1.7 LOL!

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby leolam » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:56 am

HuGu wrote:Is joomla 2.5 and iproperty 1.7 not compatible?
you should check that with the extension developer

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby leolam » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:27 pm

HuGu,
This is not a forum to post your individual issues with the release. You should post that in the proper forum. Also note that the 2.5.Beta1 version is not meant to be used on a production (live) site as clearly stated

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby HuGu » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:49 pm

leolam wrote:HuGu,
This is not a forum to post your individual issues with the release. You should post that in the proper forum. Also note that the 2.5.Beta1 version is not meant to be used on a production (live) site as clearly stated

Leo 8)



dear leolam,

my apology, i will not post in here anymore.

br,

HuGu

btw, i am aware of that and don't worry i am just learning, nothing to be worried about i have deleted my file in cpanel like 12 times now.
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby HuGu » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:54 pm

Dear All,

I am a dummy in web developing.

Where could i post for support, which part of the joomla site?

Thank,

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby newart » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:31 pm

HuGu wrote:Dear All,

I am a dummy in web developing.

Where could i post for support, which part of the joomla site?

Thank,

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Z9iT » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:18 am

Friends, its nw 10th of Jan....
eagerly waiting for J 2.5..... now over with patience.... :p

any idea when its gonna be GA ??? :geek: :) :) :)
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby HuGu » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:10 am

.i hope its not hard to upgrade.

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Jo80 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:47 am

Hello Friends, here the (bad) news :)

New release schedule: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... discussion

January 10: Release 2.5 Beta 2 -- this should include all of the smart search fixes and batch operation fixes

January 17: Release 2.5.0 RC1 -- this should be exactly the same as 2.5.0 except possibly for some last-minute bug fixes

January 24: Release 2.5.0 -- Hooray!

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Z9iT » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:21 pm

Jo80 wrote:Hello Friends, here the (bad) news :)

New release schedule: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... discussion

January 10: Release 2.5 Beta 2 -- this should include all of the smart search fixes and batch operation fixes

January 17: Release 2.5.0 RC1 -- this should be exactly the same as 2.5.0 except possibly for some last-minute bug fixes

January 24: Release 2.5.0 -- Hooray!


My friend, yhis points to google groups, and i think that the truest information will be available on joomla.org itself... plz dont scare us..... :P
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby abernyte » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:26 pm

Considering it came from Mark Dexter via the BugSquad, I think that we can place a reliable flag on that info.
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Z9iT » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:55 pm

abernyte wrote:Considering it came from Mark Dexter via the BugSquad, I think that we can place a reliable flag on that info.


Oh gosh..... a dual news... good and bad at the same time....

good : that joomla is still developing that it would be released freshly baked, so delicious.. n without any present bugs n vulnerabilities... :laugh:

Bad : nw its over the patience, that we want to put joomla 2.5 GA on our live websites.. its high time working on virtual test environments... cant wait anymore.. bees are running in my stomach :eek: :eek: ...
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Jo80 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:07 pm

Z9iT wrote:bees are running in my stomach :eek: :eek: ...


My friend, you should`nt eat bees, try it with ants :pop :D

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby fizyka » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:48 am

J2.5 will be much better than 1.7, but I have very idea for J project that will makes J even better.
My idea is:
Dear Joomla Development Team please remove Mootools and replace it with jQuery, jQ is more flexability and modern, Mootols is heavy, slow and no one use it anymore.

Please...

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby HuGu » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:09 am

I only wanted to learn much more that is ol!

i cant wait to see how it works...

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby stutteringp0et » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:21 pm

fizyka wrote:Dear Joomla Development Team please remove Mootools and replace it with jQuery, jQ is more flexability and modern, Mootols is heavy, slow and no one use it anymore.


Heavy? That's funny.
JQuery 1.7.1 uncompressed: 229 KiB
Mootools 1.4.1 uncompressed: 101 KiB

I haven't seen anything done with JQuery that can't be done more efficiently and reliably in Mootools. I'm incredibly happy that Joomla uses Mootools. I'm even more happy that since 1.6 it's been kept up-to-date (unlike the 1.1 situation with Joomla 1.5)
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby pe7er » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:39 pm

Joomla 2.5 Beta 2 has been released: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=688017
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Z9iT » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:16 pm

Jo80 wrote:bees are running in my stomach :eek: :eek: ...
My friend, you should`nt eat bees, try it with ants :pop :D

Hahahah.... its not due to that... its just the anxiety for joomla 2.5 GA 8)
Totally in love with Joomla and waiting for new features in 2.5..
specially the user management which is perhaps pretty powerful
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Z9iT » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:18 pm

fizyka wrote:J2.5 will be much better than 1.7, but I have very idea for J project that will makes J even better.
My idea is:
Dear Joomla Development Team please remove Mootools and replace it with jQuery, jQ is more flexability and modern, Mootols is heavy, slow and no one use it anymore.

I wont argue which is better, but yeah, its a brilliant idea to include both of them...
and if not possible to run simultaneously, then there could be an option to choose one during installation... 8) :geek: :geek:
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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby realityking » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:42 pm

Z9iT wrote:and if not possible to run simultaneously, then there could be an option to choose one during installation... 8) :geek: :geek:


That would mean the core would have to maintain two copies of all scripts we write, not to mention writing substitutes with exactly the same functionality for other JS things we use that rely on MooTools (SqueezeBox and FancyUpload come to my mind) - not gonna happen.

What can be done is that someone (as an extension) writes a plug-in that overrides JHtmlBehavior that at least offers query behaviors for some of the simpler things (like noframes and keep alive) thus reducing the chance of loading MooTools.

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Re: Discuss Joomla 2.5 Beta 1 Released

Postby Z9iT » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:07 am

realityking wrote:That would mean the core would have to maintain two copies of all scripts we write

There can be two separate releases for that, however you are still right... if the work can be achieved by mootools then why should we bang heads....
We are interested in killing a rat, it doesnot matter if a white cat does so or a black.. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

What can be done is that someone (as an extension) writes a plug-in that overrides JHtmlBehavior

Agreed... perhaps the best option...
@fizyka, why dont you contribute in this my friend... perhaps you suggested this;
and once this sort of plugin is out there, many more people like you will bless you... 8) 8) 8)
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