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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:13 pm 
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Hi my site http://www.in2town.co.uk seems to me very slow and i would be grateful if people could put on here the load up time they are receiving for my site as i am getting different results.

I have read about compressing the css of my site but i do not know how to do this or if this is a wise idea. I would be grateful to hear off people who have done this and if it has worked and how to do it.

The template i am using is a gavick pro template which is world news 2. If anyone can please help me make my site faster as i have been trying for such a long time now and would be grateful for some advice

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:23 pm 
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Try PageSpeed, available for Firefox, Chrome.... It will give you a good analysis of the page performance.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:58 am 
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And Yslow, too. Hm.. yea Google Speed can give you optimized version of the files for download but ALWAYS make backups just for any case. :D


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:46 pm 
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can anyone explain about images, i read about only having so many images on a page, i try and keep my images as small as possible but need to use a number of images

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:26 pm 
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What do you need to know about images? You can losslessly compress them with google speed. Just make sure you have backups.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:15 pm 
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can anyone explain about images


As far as I know there is one server call per image. Not much to do about that if you want to use a number of images. Just make sure they are not larger than you catually display them.

Actually there IS one way to reduce the number of images by combining them into a large image, and showing a part only, for a given image. It is called spriting and is not simple to implement......

Also make sure that gzip compression is enabeled. It means that the content is sent in compressed format and decompressed locally. Virtually all browser support that.

You can look for (google) web optimizing sites, that analyze your pages and suggest solutions.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:09 pm 
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I would. I did recently and it looks like it's making a difference. My page speed score on Google went from 70 to 93,94. You can also check GTmetrix. They say it's important and it makes sense, people want stuff fast.

I kept the original files of my javascript, index.css, etc, which are easier to work with and then compressed another version and put it on my site. I would recommend that. Having the original uncompressed will help a lot if you need a backup.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:10 pm 
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You can also compress your images with punypng.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:12 pm 
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Compressing my site on the server made the biggest difference for me too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:07 pm 
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The site seems ok from here. Idk what you means of slow? Have you ever seen video site such as Vimeo from Indonesia? This what I call SLOW.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:23 am 
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lip420 wrote:
You can also compress your images with punypng.


lip420 what size do you suggest for an image, i try and keep my really low

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:24 am 
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lip420 wrote:
Compressing my site on the server made the biggest difference for me too.


how did you compress your site on the server and how much difference did it make

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:31 am 
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seaside man wrote:
how did you compress your site on the server and how much difference did it make


Apache 2.0 and 2.2 allow you to compress content before sending it to the vistor's browser. The types of content to be compressed are specified by MIME type. This feature requires Apache's mod_deflate to function correctly.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:55 am 
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In Cpanel. On mine there is a button to "optimize site". Can't remember the exact difference, but it was substantial. I have been working on all kinds of stuff to optimize the site.

I have a few larger images on my site but I try to keep them small. I also figured out how to do a css sprite today too for background images. That helped.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:00 am 
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yeah css sprites...search for "css sprites generators". That will be easier. It worked for me. I went from 20 http requests down to 10. I used this one: http://css-sprit.es/


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:16 pm 
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can you check the speed of my site and let me know what you get and how bad the speed is for my site please. i will also have a look in the cpanel

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:41 pm 
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lip420 wrote:
I would. I did recently and it looks like it's making a difference. My page speed score on Google went from 70 to 93,94. You can also check GTmetrix. They say it's important and it makes sense, people want stuff fast.

I kept the original files of my javascript, index.css, etc, which are easier to work with and then compressed another version and put it on my site. I would recommend that. Having the original uncompressed will help a lot if you need a backup.


just done the page speed test and this is the result from google

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The page Lifestyle Magazine Celebrity Gossip got an overall Page Speed Score of 76 (out of 100). Learn more

i am not sure what the following means, can anyone please explain

Suggestions for this page
The following cacheable resources have a short freshness lifetime. Specify an expiry of at least one week in the future for the following resources:

* http://static.gamesys.co.uk/.../250x250.gif (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../2clairenewadvert.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../ryanair2.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../amywinehouse.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../andreamclean1.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../ashtonkutcher.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../demimoore1.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../halleberry.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../harrystyles.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../johnnydepp.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../jorgieporter.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../lindsaylohan.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../andyemmerdale.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../chasemmerdale1.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/images/stories ... debbie.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../lingerie.d ... etbodyst... (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../lingerie.p ... sp_343.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../lingerie.s ... sp_343.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.Ho ... ypool2ns... (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.Ho ... ypool2ns... (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.Ho ... sp_332.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.bi ... sp_268.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.pe ... sp_410.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.sh ... sp_832.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.sh ... sp_839.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.so ... sp_835.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.so ... sp_310.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../stories.so ... sp_320.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../search_area_bg.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../BebasNeue-webfont.svg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../breadcrumbs_bg.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../breadcrumbs_icon.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../color_switcher.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../dropline_bg.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../menu_active.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../separator_dark.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../bg1.jpg (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../bg2.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../logo.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../menu_item.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/.../menu_separator.png (expiry not specified)
* http://www.in2town.co.uk/templates/gk_t ... nu/mega.js (expiry not specified)
* http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js (60 minutes)
* http://www.google-analytics.com/ga.js (2 hours)
* http://www.tesco.com/.../Tesco_101pil_F ... 00x250.gif (2.8 hours)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:50 pm 
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lip420 wrote:
I would. I did recently and it looks like it's making a difference. My page speed score on Google went from 70 to 93,94. You can also check GTmetrix. They say it's important and it makes sense, people want stuff fast.

I kept the original files of my javascript, index.css, etc, which are easier to work with and then compressed another version and put it on my site. I would recommend that. Having the original uncompressed will help a lot if you need a backup.


can you explain each step you made to get such a high score please as i would like to follow this

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Use Gtmetrix and keep testing your site. Do what it tells you to do. Also I would remove Mootools and caption.js from the header.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:52 pm 
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lip420 wrote:
Use Gtmetrix and keep testing your site. Do what it tells you to do. Also I would remove Mootools and caption.js from the header.


hi sorry to sound thick, but what is mootools and where can i remove it, also how do you mean by caption.js. would really value your help so i can make my site faster as i need to try and compete against my compeditors who have a faster website than me

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This one worked for me. http://www.eboga.org/cms/joomla/how-to- ... mla15.html


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:09 pm 
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lip420 wrote:


hi thanks for this. just read it, and it says put it at the top but when i done that it made the site a bit funny.

here is the first part of my index code, where should i put the code

<?php
/*
#------------------------------------------------------------------------
# The World News II - #6 2011 template (for Joomla 1.5)
#
# Copyright (C) 2007-2010 Gavick.com. All Rights Reserved.
# License: Copyrighted Commercial Software
# Website: http://www.gavick.com
# Support: support@gavick.com
#------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Based on T3 Framework
#------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Copyright (C) 2004-2009 J.O.O.M Solutions Co., Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
# @license - GNU/GPL, http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
# Author: J.O.O.M Solutions Co., Ltd
# Websites: http://www.joomlart.com - http://www.joomlancers.com
#------------------------------------------------------------------------
*/

// no direct access
defined( '_JEXEC' ) or die( 'Restricted access' );

include_once (dirname(__FILE__).DS.'libs'.DS.'gk.template.helper.php');

$tmpl = GKTemplateHelper::getInstance($this, array('ui', GK_TOOL_SCREEN, GK_TOOL_MENU, 'main_layout', 'direction'));

//Calculate the width of template
$tmplWidth = '';
$tmplWrapMin = '100%';
switch ($tmpl->getParam(GK_TOOL_SCREEN)){
case 'auto':

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:20 pm 
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put it at the very top but when i load my site this is what i get

/* #------------------------------------------------------------------------ # The World News II - #6 2011 template (for Joomla 1.5) # # Copyright (C) 2007-2010 Gavick.com. All Rights Reserved. # License: Copyrighted Commercial Software # Website: http://www.gavick.com # Support: support@gavick.com #------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Based on T3 Framework #------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Copyright (C) 2004-2009 J.O.O.M Solutions Co., Ltd. All Rights Reserved. # @license - GNU/GPL, http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html # Author: J.O.O.M Solutions Co., Ltd # Websites: http://www.joomlart.com - http://www.joomlancers.com #------------------------------------------------------------------------ */ // no direct access defined( '_JEXEC' ) or die( 'Restricted access' );include_once (dirname(__FILE__).DS.'libs'.DS.'gk.template.helper.php');$tmpl = GKTemplateHelper::getInstance($this, array('ui', GK_TOOL_SCREEN, GK_TOOL_MENU, 'main_layout', 'direction'));//Calculate the width of template $tmplWidth = ''; $tmplWrapMin = '100%'; switch ($tmpl->getParam(GK_TOOL_SCREEN)){ case 'auto': $tmplWidth = '97%'; break; case 'fluid': $tmplWidth = intval($tmpl->getParam('gk_screen-fluid-fix-gk_screen_width')); $tmplWidth = $tmplWidth ? $tmplWidth.'%' : '90%'; break; case 'fix': $tmplWidth = intval($tmpl->getParam('gk_screen-fluid-fix-gk_screen_width')); $tmplWrapMin = $tmplWidth ? ($tmplWidth+1).'px' : '1003px'; $tmplWidth = $tmplWidth ? $tmplWidth.'px' : '1002px'; break; default: $tmplWidth = intval($tmpl->getParam(GK_TOOL_SCREEN)); $tmplWrapMin = $tmplWidth ? ($tmplWidth+1).'px' : '1003px'; $tmplWidth = $tmplWidth ? $tmplWidth.'px' : '1002px'; break; }$tmpl->setParam ('tmplWidth', $tmplWidth); $tmpl->setParam ('tmplWrapMin', $tmplWrapMin);//Main navigation $gk_menutype = $tmpl->getMenuType(); $gkmenu = null; if ($gk_menutype && $gk_menutype != 'none') { $gkparams = new JParameter(''); $gkparams->set( 'menutype', $tmpl->getParam('menutype', 'mainmenu') ); $gkparams->set( 'menu_images_align', 'left' ); $gkparams->set( 'menupath', $tmpl->templateurl() .'/gk_menus'); $gkparams->set('menu_images', 1); //0: not show image, 1: show image which set in menu item $gkparams->set('menu_background', 1); //0: image, 1: background $gkparams->set('mega-colwidth', 200); //Megamenu only: Default column width $gkparams->set('mega-style', 1); //Megamenu only: Menu style. $gkparams->set('rtl',($tmpl->getParam('direction')=='rtl' || $tmpl->direction == 'rtl')); $gkmenu = $tmpl->loadMenu($gkparams, $gk_menutype); } //End for main navigation$layout = $tmpl->getLayout ();if ($layout) { $tmpl->display($layout); }

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:46 pm 
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hi just checked and i do not have mootools on the template. i did not check and that site says to check to see if you have the following

<script type="text/javascript" src="/media/system/js/mootools.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="/media/system/js/caption.js"></script>

i do have it on another site so i will use that. many thanks for the heads up on that. is there anything else i can do.

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my speed score is A and my yslow score is A but the speed is still eleven seconds can anyone explain this please

http://gtmetrix.com

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