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Heather_G
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:24 am 
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This is happening to me with 2.5.4 also. It's very frustrating!

I've given ajrallen's fix a try (thanks ajrallen!!). So far so good, but it seems to me that after reordering the menu stays put for awhile and then I notice later that they've changed. So if it all goes wrong again, I'll be back on this forum.

As another note, it seems that the arrows on the Menu Manager page don't always work as expected. When the page refreshes after clicking the menu item sometimes hasn't moved. I've been reordering on the edit menu page. Using the numbers doesn't work for me either.

FYI: I did use jUpgrade to upgrade from a 1.5 site.
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Mine has been good for two days now livelongflyhigh.
Seems that after ordering the categories of the articles that the menu items pointed to in the same tree structure as the menu itself, it stopped playing silly buggers.
When re-ordering the actual menu items, I did it opening the menu item and clicking the order button as stated above in my other post.
The longest its ever stayed ordered.

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ok i gave up and used ajrallens hack on page 1 of this thread
"The fix may be to add a line after line 1432 of /libraries/joomla/database/tablenested.php:

$query->set('ordering = ' . (int) $lft_array[$i]);
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See what that does

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how did the fix hold-up?
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livelongflyhigh wrote:
how did the fix hold-up?

Amazingly the menu hasn't changed back after that line of code is inserted, use the blue arrows to move em up and down and make a habbit of clicking that little save order button at the top of the column. Good luck. I know how frustrating it is. I have 100 or so menu items.

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A few things that I can add to this thread as I am experiencing the same issue.

#1- The problem started showing up after I used JUpgrade to upgrade from 1.5 to 2.5. I wasnt too concerned with it as there was a workaround. I wasnt able to identify why the ordering was changing other than moving one menu item could cause the rest to go out of order I wanted them sometimes.
#2- I am using a template from Rockettheme and Gantry Framework.

Original Workaround:
Originally, I was ordering the menu items, using the selector arrows and they would stay. Sometimes they would not move and I would have to click them twice to move. Furthermore, I could NOT order them by blanking out the order number and replacing it with the new order.

Changed At Will Today

My menu items were fine until today when I performed some upgrades:

Extension Update- Gantry Framework, Fabrik, Joomla 2.5.4.

Please note, I had not went into the menu manager at all prior to upgrading. I did my backup with Akeeba, then proceeded to Extension Manager to upgrade extensions.

After the upgrades a new menu ordering was shown, way off from what I had in there prior to the upgrades.

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This problem has nothing to do with upgrading, because I observe the same behavior with a virgin 2.5 install.

Not only is menu order not stable (the change is triggered when other changes to the menu are saved), but I am finding that the entire menu system in Joomla! is buggy. One day several main menu links starting generating blank pages, and I found that Joomla! is writing nonsense relationships in its redirect_links table. The 'old' and 'new' URLs had no business together; hence, the menus were pointing to false objects. I am routinely having to erase the entire redirect_links table.

And by the way: It does not matter if you manually raise/lower menu item, or if you go to the menu object and set its position directly. The re-ordering bug does not discriminate. ;)

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it works better than before but the issue still remains. Maybe the developers will fix it in the next update.
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nooblarama wrote:
livelongflyhigh wrote:
how did the fix hold-up?

Amazingly the menu hasn't changed back after that line of code is inserted...



Works for me, too.
Thanks, Nooblarama.
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*Almost* worked for me. In other words, inserting that line of code worked fine until I added a new menu item when things went back to normal and I couldn't reorder menu items... :(

I dived into the database and the ordering column of the menu table has every entry set at 0 FOR EVERY SINGLE MENU I HAVE.

(Sorry for shouting.)
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Is your site an upgrade from 1.5 ?

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Is your site an upgrade from 1.5 ?


No, this is a brand new installation of 2.5.
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It also happened for me It was working until to add a new menu item it went back for the same confuse order as before. Each time I add a menu item is the same issue.
My site is upgrade from 1.5
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If you Order by 'Ordering' and you have Parent menu items all showing in position #1
Then with the menu item that you want first ... assign it ordering #0 and click the save icon. It will then be set #1 and the others will be auto incremented.

The above works for submenu items that have the same parent and also works for modules in the module manager.

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livelongflyhigh wrote:
Ummmm, how about, just fixing the bugs so we dont have to deal with this sh*t?!? lol ...

How about you go to http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... er_id=8103 and fix a few yourself ?

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Hello,

2.5.4 J! from a migrated 1.5 ( and hundreds of menu items, and 47 menus...) and got this ordering problem :(

Does everybody have this bug back while adding a new menu item ? (and previously applied the hack)

Is there something else to check into database to make sure everything seems fine ?

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2.5.4 J! from a migrated 1.5 ( and hundreds of menu items, and 47 menus...) and got this ordering problem :(
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That is due to the tool you used for migrating.

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I used sp upgrade for information.
But how can I fix this ?

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Do SP upgrade provide support for their tool ? Perhaps they would know why it didn't work correctly ?

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I will ask.
But seems this problem occurs to clean new install as well, isn't it ?

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crony wrote:
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But seems this problem occurs to clean new install as well, isn't it ?

No it does not. Time and time again users don't know how to use Joomla cry bug. Reordering of the menu items works well with Joomla. It is only when it is an upgrade from 1.5 that there are problems.

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If you Order by 'Ordering' and you have Parent menu items all showing in position #1
Then with the menu item that you want first ... assign it ordering #0 and click the save icon. It will then be set #1 and the others will be auto incremented.

The above works for submenu items that have the same parent and also works for modules in the module manager.

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Tried but does not work :(

But it seems I found a kind of workaround...
There are only some of menu that are not well oredered, so I create menu links only for these, then delete the old one...A bit boring but no choice...

I suspect something wrong into database, I'll check that in case...

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There are only some of menu that are not well oredered, so I create menu links only for these, then delete the old one...A bit boring but no choice...
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That appears to be the most used work around to recreate the menu items. I did not use an upgrade tool on my site. I used export/import tools to a fresh 2.5 install much cleaner.

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Last night I installed a different component from the same developer as SP Upgrade, one called SP Download. The next thing I noticed, after clearing the cache, is that the menus were all wonky again and this time no matter what I do I cannot get them to reset.

After reading everyone elses posts on this topic I went in and uninstalled the SP Download plugin and component. Cleared cache, global checkin, and then went in and manually selected my home page and set it back to -First- using the pull down. It stayed! I went in and did the same to the other items and they stayed as well.

Maybe the SP Update and SP Download developer has something in their code that they share between components that is causing this conflict?

If this is the case maybe a fix for the problem is to make sure to uninstall the SP Update component once you are done importing your old site content?

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Tried to uninstall, same problem...

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How can you get the same problem when you are trying to install ? The problem is encountered in the Menu manager not the Extensions >>manage screen.

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I tried to uninstall the migration component, but I still have the problem of the menu ordering...

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crony wrote:
I tried to uninstall the migration component, but I still have the problem of the menu ordering...

Perhaps if you successfully uninstalled rather than just trying then that may sort out the menu problem ?

"I tried to uninstall" suggests you were not successful in your attempt.

It may sound pedantic but inaccuracy in listing what you did reflects inaccuracy with your thinking about the problem. Being pedantic is often necessary with computers.

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Sorry cant fix it myself oh master dongle, thats the programmers job, not mine ;) You've got a fairly big mouth on these forums, why dont you open it and speak to those who make this product
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Sorry cant fix it myself oh master dongle, thats the programmers job, not mine ;) You've got a fairly big mouth on these forums, why dont you open it and speak to those who make this product
Perhaps if I look at your site directly it will be clearer. Also please run the Forum Post Assistant and post the results here might help.

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