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Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by betriebsdruckth » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:36 pm

Hi there,

yesterday i have seen the update message at the control centre update button:

update to joomla 3.0.1.

i had a running 2.5.6. and for security quickly i installed the 2.5.x to 2.5.8 patch
to upgrade after that to 3.0.1

now its the system message
there is NO UPDATE needet because i have the actual 2.5.8 version

:-(

ca i upgrade a 2.5.8. to a 3.0.2 version ?
how ?

thanks and best greetings from thuringia
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by cheetooh » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:39 pm

1) Login to the backend
2) Drop down "Components" and click "Joomla Update"
3) Click "Options"
4) Select "Short term support" for update server
5) Save & close
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by betriebsdruckth » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:58 pm

... sorry - doesn't work

LTS
STS
Test

always the same since update from 2.5.6 with package (2.5.x to 2.5.8).
there ist everything ok and actual, the update button says.

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by jdbdrwho » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:05 pm

After changing to short term support. You will then need to go to the control panel dashboard and then click on the link "Joomla! is up-to-date".

You should then see:
Joomla! Update
No updates available

You already have the latest Joomla! version, 3.0.1.
Next
Click on the button at the top of that screen that says Purge Cache

You will then see that there is an update available for 3.0.2 and then you can apply the update.

You should then see:
Joomla! Update
No updates available

You already have the latest Joomla! version, 3.0.2.
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by betriebsdruckth » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:38 pm

NO STOP READ MY FIRST QUESTION

i am ONE STEP BEFORE 3.0.1 !!!!!

Keine Aktualisierungen verfügbar
Es ist bereits die aktuellste Joomla!-Version 2.5.8 installiert.

i updatet 2.5.6 to 2.5.8

in 2.5.6. there was the information "update to 3.0.1"
BUT NOW
in 2.5.8. there is no message update to ..... anything

also cache cleaning has no effect !

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by jdbdrwho » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:46 pm

Sorry my mistake. No need to yell this is a friendly forum with the intent to help others.
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by Webdongle » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:00 am

Is it a live site ?
http://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/
https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by betriebsdruckth » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:37 am

jdbdrwho wrote:Sorry my mistake. No need to yell this is a friendly forum with the intent to help others.
thank you 4 your help - it was no critic !


and the other question was: LIVE SITE ? --> YES !

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by Webdongle » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:47 pm

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
and the other question was: LIVE SITE ? --> YES !
Then the answer to your original question is 'Don't do it !!!'
Joomla 3.0 is recommended for more experienced users and developers.
http://www.joomla.org/download.html

If you need to ask how to do it then you are not experienced. Thus trying to do it on a live site would be to say the least not very clever.

You need to make a backup of your site and test update/upgrade on test environment.

Do you have xampp or similar on your computer ?
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by betriebsdruckth » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:04 am

OK again and shorter

why there WAS a button "update to 3.0.1" (as i had 2.5.6)

and NOW ther is NO button ???
(after my syfety update to the highest 2.5.(8))

dont tell me i am not experieced because i had only a simple question ...
i am on the way with joomla since 1.xxx - so please dont tell me to try a xammp or something -
my question is only about the missing button - and again: why did joomla show me this function in 2.5.6. and not more in 2.5.8 ???

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:00 pm

It was not a personal attack on you, it was an observation on you wanting to update/upgrade from 2.5 to 3.0 on a live site.
betriebsdruckth wrote:...
dont tell me i am not experieced because i had only a simple question ...
...
The answer to your question is not simple ... to update/upgrade from 2.5 to 3.0 is not a simple matter.

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
i am on the way with joomla since 1.xxx - so please dont tell me to try a xammp or something -
Then you should know not to update/upgrade between different series on a live site.

betriebsdruckth wrote:...
my question is only about the missing button - and again: why did joomla show me this function in 2.5.6. and not more in 2.5.8 ???
Well one of your questions was
betriebsdruckth wrote:ca i upgrade a 2.5.8. to a 3.0.2 version ?
how ?
When I asked if it was a live site and you replied 'Yes' ... then I gave the answer which IMHO was correct.

If you are experienced and want to update/upgrade from 2.5.8 to 3.0.2 then I wish you luck.

As for 2.5.6 showing 3.0.x is available for update ... that should only happen if the Joomla update options have been changed. After using the 2.5.x to 2.5.8 patch then Joomla update component shows up to date ... until cache is cleared in Module manager >>> update tab. But even then the Joomla update options must have been changed in the first place.

I still maintain that anyone updating/upgrading ... from 2.5 to 3.0 on a live site ... is not as experienced as they think they are. Also, to change the settings on a live site to STS ... is not the act of an experienced user. Also would add that experience is learning from mistakes not the length of time doing something. If you are making the mistake of updating/upgrading 2.5 to 3.0 on a live site ... that speaks for itself.
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by betriebsdruckth » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:10 am

hello Webdongle,

thank you very much 4 accepting my words.
somebody was answering without reading my words.

VERY USEFUL was: until cache is cleared in Module manager >>> update tab.
i cleared every cache around but not this cache ;-)
now there is another small error: Update: :Collection: „http://update.martiinkolle.dk/xml/extensions.xml“ kann nicht geöffnet werden!
???

i never updated a live site from version to version because there was no possibility via update function since 2.5
(i should accept, that the update function is not a real update function - from version to version)

I DONT WANT TO UPDATE THIS LIVE SITE NOW

thanks 4 the LTS STS tip, but i never used (changed) this options.
the update message @ 2.5.6. was really there (thats the grounding of my questions)

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by Nick Savov » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:47 am

By the way, please be sure to check out the Joomla 3 FAQ:
http://community.joomla.org/blogs/commu ... 0-faq.html

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.2

Post by Maisondouf » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:18 pm

Transfered HERE
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by Nick Savov » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:22 pm

Hi Maisondouf,

Please open up a new topic for your issue.

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by moris20 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:22 am

Hi , I have a question directly related to this post.
I accept that updating from 2.5.8 to the 3's is something experienced developers should do. Is it therefore safe to simply stay with 2.5.8 version?

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by sovainfo » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:42 pm

No, that is not safe. You need to upgrade to J2.5.9 and continue to do so for other releases in J2.5.
Issue with migrating? Include logs/joomla_update.php in your report!
Blank screen? Verify pagesource for HTML code (javascript error)
Installation failing on populating database? Install with set_time_limit(0)
Document your customizations!

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by Webdongle » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:57 pm

If your 2.5.8 is showing 3.0.x available then set your Joomla update component's >>> Options to LTS.
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by zippytiff » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:48 am

Hi

Sorry if this has already been answered....

But under components i dont have the Joomla update menu item?

Im running 2.5.8 and want to upgrade to 3.x as this is a new server and no sites live yet

Help??

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by sovainfo » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:52 am

Issue with migrating? Include logs/joomla_update.php in your report!
Blank screen? Verify pagesource for HTML code (javascript error)
Installation failing on populating database? Install with set_time_limit(0)
Document your customizations!

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by zippytiff » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:07 pm

thanks

using that direct link, i get red errors

Error loading component: com_joomlaupdate, 1

then whem i try to set short term, i get

Fatal error: Call to a member function filter() on a non-object in .........libraries/joomla/application/component/modelform.php on line 261

and it wont save setting

any ideas? should i upgrade to 2.5.9, then to 3.x?

Thx

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by sovainfo » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:17 pm

You shouldn't get those errors. Maybe run discover and install missing stuff and check the database and fix.

When both of these don't work, consider to overwrite the distribution without the installation folder.

When you want to go for J3, download the patch and manually install it using extension installer. Should be needed to update to 259 first, it doesn't hurt if you do.

Assuming you have investigated your extensions on compatibility for J3! If not don't go to J3.
Issue with migrating? Include logs/joomla_update.php in your report!
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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by zippytiff » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:35 pm

thx, the discover didthe trick,

selected joomla update and installed.... now looks as per instructions !! thx very much

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Re: Update Joomla 2.5.8. to 3.0.1

Post by alancoughlin » Wed May 22, 2013 6:06 pm

This is a known issue. Here is the solution:
No-updates-shown-in-current-version
There are some reports that updates that have been released are not shown in the current (older) version. If this occurs, go to the Updates tab of the Extensions Manager. Click the clear cache icon. Then click the check for updates icon.
(from this page: http://docs.joomla.org/No-updates-shown ... nt-version)


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