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Hi,
I've been working with mambo for a few weeks and love it in general, but I have a pretty big problem that I can't seem to work out.

When I use Table-Content Category to create a new menu item it appears to work, but doesn't.  In the front end it creates the page with a table showing the content items in the category, but none of the links to the content items function properly.

The links to the content items take me to a page that shows the body of the content item, but nothing else updates.  For example I have a content item that should show a phases of the moon module, and related content module.  Additionaly the highlighting in the menu for the active item is not updated

The attached screenshot shows an example of a category table found at the link below.

http://costa-rica-guide.com/travel/inde ... &Itemid=18
Click on the linked title "Module-Moon Phase" under "Item Title"

compare the page you see at that link with the correctly formed page you get when you go to the same page
and Click on the menu item moon phase in the right hand menu

What's hapening is that your module is associated with a menu item, not a content item. So when you click on the link from the table content category you are displaying the Module-Moon Phase content item on the Useful Bits menu item, when you click on the Moon Phase submenu item your are displaying the Module-Moon Phase content item on the Moon Phase menu item. The moon phase module is set to display only on the Moon Phase menu.

You can edit the module so that it isi set to display on the Useful Bits menu item.

Hi there...

i check out the link you posted...the page you referenced looks the same to me regardless of which link i click...

did you fix it already?

Hi FrankZoid,
edit-
Sorry FrankZoid it was rontec76 that asked if it was fixed yet...
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No I haven't fixed it.

I've attached a couple more screen shots of what I see in firefox 1.3 when I click the links

A-What I want-from menu link
B-Not what I want-from category link

Which one are you seeing? 

Thanks,
Ray

Thanks, I understand that I can edit the module to display on the Useful Bits menu item, but that's not really what I want (the moon module should only be associated with content items having to do with the moon).

Maybe another way of asking the question is how do I associate the moon (or related item, or the menu highlighting) module with the appropriate content item as it is listed in the category table?

I know it is possible to have a generated link that calls all of the content for a page rather than just the body.  For example if you click on a "related item" the content page is generated with the content body, plus the appropriate modules (related items, and where assigned the moon module) plus the active link is updated in other menus.

It seems to work everywhere except in the category table listing. 

I forgot to show what I mean by the menu updating so I've attached another screen shot that you can click on.

It may be doable, but there is not a standard way to associate the module with the content item; modules are associated with menu items.

I'm afraid I don't understand.  I'm new to this and I must be missing some very basic concept. What would be the point of including a 'related item' module and 'Table-Content Category' in the core release if all related item does when you visit an item from the 'Table-Content Category' is displays the phrase "related item"?  There are much simpler ways of doing that.

It would be one thing if the module and menu updates only worked from menu items where I've manually specifically designated that the menu link display the module, but it works in other generated links (if you click on the link generated by the related item module it displays all of the content that I want associated with the item) why wouldn't it work in the link generated to display on the 'Table-Content Category'?

jumla/mambo 'Table-Content Category' already generates the list, generates the links in the list, gives me the great filter and sort options, and jumla/ mambo has the ability to call a page that displays all of the content (as evidenced by the related items module), why would the filtered sorted list in the 'Table-Content Category' point to only 30% of the intended content instead?

I know I can force this to work by simply manually creating a new menu and manually adding the desired links and their behaviour to it, creating a new template with a spot for the new menu below the content item, and a script to sort and filter the menu, but I thought the ability to update, cross-reference, sort, organize, and  present content items without manually creating a menu for each iteration was the point of CMSs.

That can't possibly be missing from jumla/mambo?

The emperor must have clothes!

Sorry for the rant, it's late and I've been struggling with this for a while.

I can't speak to these questions as I am simply a Joomla user, not a developer. But be that as it is, that is why your module is not showing up.

There are other possible solutions too. For example, instead of using a table content category you could create a new menu and position themodule in the content area of your page. Then the menu items you create will have the display you specify. You lost the author and search features, but you do have a list of links that take you to pages that display as you wish.

Hope you find your solution, let me know what you come up with.

I'm not sure this is really the issue.  If I were just talking about the Moon Phase or another "module associated with a menu item" that might make sense, but it's not just the module that doesn't display correctly, the active item on the menu itself doesn't update, and the path (breadcrumbs whatever you call it) are different.

I'm reasonably certain that the URL/link to each content item in the Table-Content Category is malformed.

The item ID inserted in the URL on the Table-Content Category page has nothing to do with the item being called for, it is the item ID assigned to the Table-Content Category when you create it as a menu item. Even if you have 50 different items every link in the Table-Content Category points at the same incorrect item ID. That's why the links call the peripheral content appropriate to the Table-Content Category instead of calling the peripheral content appropriate to the content item being linked to!

This is either a huge bug with multifaceted eyes and gnashing teeth gnawing away at the core of joombo, or I'm a huge idiot with multifaceted defects and a bunch of misconceptions.

I'm simply a user as well, is there some way you know of to call this to the attention of the devs so they can either tell me I'm out of my mind or fix it?  I've been posting/searching/reading on this issue since before the split and the only other info I've found has been other people with the same problem or question. Mostly the posts are just ignored (You've been the exception FrankZoid) which seems weird because I've gotten such helpful feedback on other issues.

BTW if you're still " Jamaica bound" have a great time, if you're back hope it was fun, and if you're still there I'm jealous.

Thanks for all your input.
Ray

I think that this is what is throwing you Ray. The ItemID is the menu item, not the content item. 30 is your Moon Phase menu item, and any content item you call along with ItemID=30 will display with the parameters for that menu item. For example, if you substitute the id=2 (your content item Movie23) in the url, then you get the Movie23 content displayed on a page with the Moon Phases module (http://costa-rica-guide.com/travel/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2&Itemid=30).

Also, your breadcrumbs are a reflection of the menu item, for example remove the id (http://costa-rica-guide.com/travel/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&Itemid=30) and you are on the Moon Phase menu item, with no content (defaults to 'You are not authorized to view...'). The pathway is Home > Mambits > Useful Bits > Moon Phase, the menu item (or page) you are on.

The peripheral content in associated with menu items, not content items.

Make sense to you?

Makes perfect sense that that's what's wrong.  What doesn't make sense is that every link on that Table-Content Category includes "&Itemid18" which is the itemid of the table not any of the content items.

The question is how does one get the content item linked title on a Table-Content Category page to point at the Itemid of the content item instead of the item id of the Table-Content Category page so that the link will call the correct content!

what if you individually set each link on it? I'm not sure how exactly you would do this, but there has to be some way to edit the table links that are automatically generated to links that you specify, possibly in the actual database or your cp file manager to target the correct paths... sorry, not much help probably, but at least it's an idea *shrugs*

If you call the Content Item without a Menu Item (ItemID), then you will get the content item displayed in your template, but not the Parameters and Modules which are associated with Menu Items only (seehttp://costa-rica-guide.com/travel/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19).

Personally, I don't care much for the Table based menu items. I typically create my own lists, or sometimes use a menu positioned in top to link to the content.

Yeah, I know.  And if you call the content item with any random incorrect ItemID, or the ItemID of the Table-Content Category page instead of the correct ItemID you get the content item displayed in your template, but not the Parameters and Modules which are associated with Menu Items only.

Try this one
http://costa-rica-guide.com/travel/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=30
You get the content for content item 10, but the related links, the moon phase module, and the active menu item for the moon phase page.



I agree completely, and my intention is to use well structured menus as the main navigation, but I have over 3,000 content items that I want to add to this site.  Most of them are cross referenced and the total direct menu links would exceed 5,000
I think I'm going to need some automated sorting and filtering capabilities.

omg! that's a lot of content!  either way, sorry I can't help you and that you're still experiencing this. I sincerely hope that you find a fix to it soon!

I've been experimenting with Blog-Content Category as an alternative to Table-Content Category and discovered that it is doing a similar thing but appending an incorrect Itemid from somewhere else.

Every link to every content item whether "leading", "intro", "link" or "readmore" has &Itemid=2 instead of the correct item id, and when you click on any link to a content item it is displayed surrounded by the modules, related items, and active menu highlighting for Item 2 which is the top level of the USER menu. 

Just tried another approach, but no luck there either

I hoped that creating a new content item and then using the "Link to Menu" tab on the "Content Item: New" or "Content Item: Edit" page might associate the correct Itemid with the content item in the Table-Content Category, or Blog-Content Category but no such luck.

I think I've found a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel, but unfortunately it sounds like it's a train headed straight at me and my hopes for joombo as a CMS



There was a patch for the problem on the quoted post (differerent issue), so I'll go over there post my issue and see if there is a way to patch up the Table-Content Category, and/or the Blog-Content Category.

If anyone else is interested I think you can jump to that post by clicking the quote line above, if not it's
http://forum.opensourcematters.org/index.php/topic,3509.0.html

It's a drag that it's broken, but at least I can stop thinking I'm going insane.
Ray

Hi there,
We've had what seems to be the same sort of trouble. I have created a category view with each item having a readmore (http://decisiveflow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=10&Itemid=28). Then I created submenu items for each item.
So When I click on readmore about Flowforms, I get to http://decisiveflow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=28 Which you can see still has the same menu id as the category view, not its unique id of Itemid=29
But If i click on the menu, I go straight to the right menu item.
We have been using Joomla/mambo for a while now and never come accross this problem until this version.

eg. Another site on the last version of mambo (still to upgrade) we have a category view: http://www.evolutionone.com/main/evolutionone-products/evolutionone-modules/ witht he same situation, each item has its own menu item, and a readmore button. However, on this older version of mambo, they both go to the right place (ie, the readmore picks up the right item id)

So it looks like this is not an age old problem with mambo, but maybe another of those readmore problems that have sprung up in this release (like the newsflash problem)?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
the version we are using is 1.0.7
Natalie