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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:03 pm 
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Hi mig69

Welcome to the Joomla! community forums.

The issue you have highlighted is already known (see above) and we are working towards solving the problem.

Thanks for taking the time to respond though :)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:15 pm 
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Hi Andy

I was looking for incorrect links and screenshots in the Site Menu Help Screens.

I will report it for each help screen:

1. Template Manager [ Site ] - Assign **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Template Manager [ Site ]

2. Template Manager [ Administrator ] ** NEW**

- Incorrect link => Template Manager [ Site]

- Wrong screenshot

- Another link issue: The "Assign" Related Information Link => There is no assign feature for Admin Templates.

3. Template Manager CSS Editor **NEW**

- Incorrect links => Template HTML Editor,  Template Manager [ Site], Template Manager [ Administrator]

- Wrong screenshot

- Another link issue: The "Assign" Related Information Link => The title must be "Site Template - Assign"

4. Template Manager HTML Editor **NEW**

- Incorrect links => Template Manager [ Site] , Template Manager [ Administrator]

- Wrong screenshot

- Another link issue: The "Assign" Related Information Link => The title must be "Site Template - Assign"

- A minor image issue: The 1.0.12 icon is aligned to the right.

5. Module Positions **NEW**

- Incorrect links => Template HTML Editor, Template Manager [ Site], Template Manager [ Administrator]

- Another link issue: The "Assign" Related Information Link => The title must be "Site Template - Assign"

6. User Manager **NEW** 

- A minor image issue: The 1.0.12 icon is aligned to the right.

7. User Manager [ User : Edit ] **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Contact Manager (twice over)

8. User Manager [ User : Add ] **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Contact Manager (twice over)

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There is another minor issue with the image size (it's too big ???) for "PDF", "Print" and "Email" icons on "Global Configuration **NEW** (Content Tab)" Help Screen.

I will continue the review.

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=> PS (Edited): There is a problem with the User Documentation Forum into the Documentation Work Group Forum. The latest post doesn't appear on the index board.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:45 pm 
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Hi Leandro,

JCE strikes again! >:(I am going to raise a ticket with regard to the updating error that is blighting this work.

Any way items 1- 8 above all fixed. However, not sure what you meant by wrong screenshots as these all appear correct as far as i can see.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:08 am 
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[quote=∓quot;humvee"\]JCE strikes again! >:(I am going to raise a ticket with regard to the updating error that is blighting this work. [/quote]

Could be the JCE's links & popups editor. I've had the same problem sometime.

[quote=∓quot;humvee"\]....However, not sure what you meant by wrong screenshots as these all appear correct as far as i can see.[/quote]

I found those issues on IE 7 (not on FF 2.0  :)). The screenshot links are not valid. They show a blank page (I have tried once again by cleaning the browser cache, but the problem remains).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:27 am 
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[quote=∓quot;humvee"\]JCE strikes again! >:(I am going to raise a ticket with regard to the updating error that is blighting this work.


Could be the JCE's links & popups editor. I've had the same problem sometime.

[quote=∓quot;humvee"\]....However, not sure what you meant by wrong screenshots as these all appear correct as far as i can see.[/quote]

I found those issues on IE 7 (not on FF 2.0  :)). The screenshot links are not valid. They show a blank page (I have tried once again by cleaning the browser cache, but the problem remains).
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Yep it is pop ups but also within html editor just a royal PITA!

Anyway fixed the three screens.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:14 am 
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Hi Andy

I have found the following incorrect links and screenshots in the Menu Menu Help Screens. I will report it for each help screen as i had done above:

1. Menu Manager: New / Edit Menu **NEW**

- Wrong screenshot => Menu Manager - Edit (on IE 7)

2. Menu Manager [ mainmenu ] **NEW**

- Blank space before text => On IE 7.

- Incorrect links => Related Information (link through the text), Component Link - Component Item (split and incorrect link), Section Table - Content Category (split and incorrect link), Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

- Another link issue => You must rename the "List - Content" link to "List - Content Section"

- Another style issue => Could you include a space between the Menu Item Types and the related information links? (or split it by paragraph as you have done for "Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Copy Menu Items **NEW**" help screen).

3. Menu Manager [ usermenu ] **NEW**

- Incorrect links => Related Information (link through the text), Link - Component Item, Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category 

- Another style issue => Space between the Menu Item Types and the related information links (see above).

4. Menu Manager [ othermenu ] **NEW**

- Blank space before text => On IE 7.

- Incorrect links => Related Information (link through the text), Section Table - Content Category (split and incorrect link), Component Link - Component Item (split and incorrect link), Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

- Another link issue => You must rename the "List - Content" link to "List - Content Section"

- Another style issue => Space between the Menu Item Types and the related information links (see above).

5. Menu Manager [ topmenu ] **NEW**

- Blank space before text => On IE 7.

- Incorrect links => Related Information (link through the text), Section Table - Content Category (split and incorrect link), Component Link - Component Item (split and incorrect link), Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

- Another link issue => You must rename the "List - Content" link to "List - Content Section"

- Another style issue => Space between the Menu Item Types and the related information links (see above).

6. Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Add Menu Item **NEW**

- Incorrect Links => Blog - Content Category Archive (split link), Blog - Content Section Archive (split link), Link - Component Item, Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

7. Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Edit Menu Item **NEW**

- Incorrect Links => Blog - Content Category Archive (split link), Blog - Content Section Archive (split link),  Link - Component Item, Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

8. Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Copy Menu Items **NEW**  

- Incorrect Links => Link - Component Item, Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

9. Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Move Menu Items **NEW**

- Incorrect Links => Link - Component Item, Link - News Feed, Table - Contact Category, Table - News Feed Category

10. Add Menu Item :: Component **NEW** 

- Duplicated link => Move Menu Item

11. Menu Item : Component [ Web Links ] **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Web Link items

12. Menu Item :: Component [ Search ] **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Module Manager [ Site ]

13. Menu Item :: Wrapper **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Move Menu Item

14. Menu Item :: Blog - Content Category **NEW**

- Incorrect link =>  Menu Manager [ usermenu ]

15. Menu Item : Blog - Content Category Archive **NEW**

- Incorrect link =>  Menu Manager [ usermenu ]

- Another link issue => You must rename the "Section Manage" link to "Section Manager"

16. Menu Item: Blog - Content Section Archive **NEW**

- Wrong screenshot => Cut image

- Incorrect link => Menu Manager [ usermenu ]

17. Menu Item :: Link - Content Item **NEW**

- A minor issue => You can increase the space between columns on related information links.

18. Menu Item :: Submit Content **NEW** 

- Wrong screenshot => On IE 7

- A minor issue => You can increase the space between columns on related information links.

19. Menu Item :: Separator / Placeholder **NEW**

- Wrong screenshot => On IE 7

20. Menu Item: Link - Contact Item **NEW**

- A minor issue => You can increase the space between columns on related information links.

21. Menu Item :: Table - Contact Category **NEW** 

- A minor issue => You can increase the space between columns on related information links.

24. Menu Item :: Table - Web Link Category **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Web Link items
***** Manual signatures are NOT allowed *****

Another two minor issues about screenshots (sorry if i am overmeticulous):

1. For the "Menu :: Item [menutype]" Help Screens there is no uniformity with regard to "Add" an "Edit" screenshots creation:

- Some Help Sreeens have both "Add" and "Edit" screenshots => Menu Item :: Link - Content Item **NEW** , Menu Item :: Link - Static Content **NEW** , Menu Item: List - Content Section **NEW** , Menu Item :: Link - News Feed **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - Contact Category **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - Content Category **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - News Feed Category **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - Web Link Category **NEW**

- Other Help Screens have "Edit" screenshots only => Menu Item : Component [ Web Links ] **NEW** , Menu Item: Component [ Contacts ] **NEW** , Menu Item :: Component [ Search ] **NEW** , Menu Item :: Component [ News Feeds] **NEW** , Menu Item :: Component [ Polls ] **NEW** , Menu Item :: Component [ Login ] **NEW** , Menu Item :: Component [ Front Page ] **NEW** , Menu Item :: Wrapper **NEW** , Menu Item : Blog - Content Category Archive **NEW** , Menu Item: Link - Component Item **NEW**

- Other Help Screens have "Add" Screenshots only => Menu Item :: Blog - Content Category **NEW** , Menu Item: Blog - Content Section **NEW** , Menu Item: Link - Contact Item **NEW** , Menu Item :: Link - URL **NEW**

2. For some "Edit" (Menu Item) Screenshots you can see the text "Menu item saved" behind the screen title. See:

Menu Item :: Link - Content Item **NEW** , Menu Item :: Link - Static Content **NEW** , Menu Item :: Link - News Feed **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - Contact Category **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - Content Category **NEW** , Menu Item: Link - Component Item **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - News Feed Category **NEW** , Menu Item :: Table - Web Link Category **NEW**

Nothing else.
I will continue by reviewing the rest of Menus.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:21 pm 
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Hi Leandro,

All completed.

Last two points I wondered about this but to be honest didn't really see any additional value to it some I did just because I was there sort of thing. Not ideal but I can live with it ;)

Thanks once again

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:47 pm 
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Not at all, Andy.

I was viewing some screens again. I notice an error has remained on them :(.

You can see the link "Section" (overlooked) on some help screens:

- Menu Manager [ mainmenu ] **NEW**
- Menu Manager [ usermenu ] **NEW**
- Menu Manager [ othermenu ] **NEW**
- Menu Manager [ topmenu ] **NEW**
- Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Edit Menu Item **NEW**
- Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Copy Menu Items **NEW**
- Menu Manager [ menuname ] - Move Menu Items **NEW**

I will report you the next Menus soon.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:20 am 
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Actually a new error ;)

But fixed any way

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:50 pm 
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Hi Andy

I have finished the review of Content Menu Help Screens. I found this stuff:

1. Content Item: New / Edit **NEW** 

- Incorrect Link => MOS Pagination (see Additional Features).

2. Content Item: Move Items **NEW** 

- Incorrect Link => MOS Pagination (see Related Information)

3. Content Item: Copy Items **NEW**

- Incorrect Link => MOS Pagination (see Related Information)

4. Static Content Manager **NEW**

- Incorrect Link => MOS Pagination (see Related Information)

5. Static Content Item: New / Edit **NEW**

- Incorrect Link => MOS Pagination (see Additional Features).

- Incorrect link => MOS Pagination, Link - Static Content Item (see Related Information)

- Article index issue => Related information links are superimposed to the article index (on IE 7). (Note: This doesn't happen for Content Item: New / Edit **NEW**)

6. Section Manager **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Section: New (see Toolbar description)

- Incorrect link => Section: New (see Related Information)

7. Section Manager: Copy Section **NEW**

- Incorrect links => Section Manager, Section: New (see Related Information)

8. Section Manager: New or Edit [section_name] **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Section Blog Archive (see Other Details).

- Incorrect link => Section Blog Archive (see Related Information)

- Split link => Category Manager (see Related Information)

9. Category Manager [ Content: All ] **NEW**

- Wrong screenshot => On IE 7

- Incorrect links => Copy Category, Category: Edit (see Toolbar description)

- Incorrect links => Category: New/Edit, Copy Category (see Related Information)

10. Category Manager: New or Edit **NEW**

- Split links -> Table - Content Category, Blog - Content Category , or Blog - Content Category Archive (see Link to Menu description)

- Rename links -> Blog -Content Category, Blog Content Category Archive  (see Related Information)

11. Category Manager [Content All]: Move **NEW**

- Wrong screenshot => On IE 7

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Another minor issue => Check the title consistency for Category Manager: "New/Edit","Move" and "Copy" Help Screens.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:00 am 
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Hi Leandro,

1 - 8 Completed, 9 (partially) & 10 will have to wait fro tomorrow.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:11 am 
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Thanks Andy,

I have finished the Components Menu Help Screens review:

1. Components - What are they? **NEW**

- Incorrect link =>  Content (see Related Information)

- Minor issue => Perhaps you can reorder the Related Information links.

2. Banners - What are they? **NEW**

- Incorrect link =>  Manage Banners (see Description)

- Incorrect link =>  Manage Banners (see Related Information)

3. Banner Manager **NEW**  

- Incorrect link =>  Banner Client: Manager (see Related Information)

4. Banner Manager : New / Edit **NEW** 

- Incorrect links =>  Banner Manager,  Banner Client Manager (see Related Information)

5. Banner: Client Manager: New / Edit **NEW**

- Incorrect link =>  Banner Client Manager (see Related Information)

6. Contacts - What are they? **NEW**

- A minor image issue => The 1.0.12 version image is aligned to the right.

- A link issue => Rename "Menu Item: Component" to "Menu Item: Component [Contacts]" (see Related Information)

7. Contact Manager **NEW** 

- A minor imageissue => The 1.0.12 version image is aligned to the right.

- Incorrect links => Contact: Edit , Contact: New screen (see Toolbar description)

- Another link issue => Rename "Menu Item: Component" to "Menu Item: Component [Contacts]" (see Related Information)

8. Contact Manager: New / Edit **NEW**  

- A minor image issue => The 1.0.12 version image is aligned to the right.

- A link issue => Rename "Menu Item: Component" to "Menu Item: Component [Contacts]" (see Related Information)

9. Contact Category Manager **NEW**

- Incorrect links => Contact Category: Edit , Contact Category: New (see Toolbar description)

- Split link => Contact Category: New or Edit (see Related Information)

- Another link issue => Rename "Menu Item: Component" to "Menu Item: Component [Contacts]" (see Related Information)

10. Contact Category: New or Edit **NEW**

- Split link => Table - Contact Category (see Link to Menu description)

- Another link issue => Rename "Menu Item: Component" to "Menu Item: Component [Contacts]" (see Related Information)

11. News Feeds - What are they? **NEW**

- A minor issue => Check the title of News Feed: New or Edit[ newsfeed_name ] & Category: New or Edit [ News Feeds: category_name (see Related Information)

12. News Feed Manager **NEW**

- Incorrect links => News Feed: Edit , News Feed: New (see Toolbar description) Note: Check the space between characters too.

- A minor issue => Check the title of News Feed: New or Edit[ newsfeed_name ] & Category: New or Edit [ News Feeds: category_name (see Related Information)

13. News Feed Manager: New / Edit **NEW**

- A minor issue => Check the title of Category: New or Edit [ News Feeds: category_name (see Related Information)

14. News Feed Category Manager **NEW**

- A minor issue => Check the title of Category: New or Edit [ News Feeds: category_name (see Toolbar fescription)

- A minor issue => Check the title of News Feed: New or Edit[ newsfeed_name ] (see Related Information)

15. News Feed Category Manager **NEW**

- Unnecessary link => News Feed Category: New or Edit (You could change it for News Feed Category Manager)

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I have noticed other matters with regard to consistency usage too:

1. Titles of "[Components] Category Manager" have been written in several ways:

- "Category Manager: [ Component: Contact ]" vs "Contact Category Manager".
- "Category: New or Edit [ Contact: category_name ]" vs "Contact Category: New or Edit "

- "Category Manager [ Component: News Feeds ] vs News Feed Category Manager **NEW**
- "Category: New or Edit [ News Feeds: category_name ] vs "News Feed Category: New or Edit"

- Whereas for "Web link Component" only has been used "Web Link Category Manager" & "Web Link Category: New or Edit" .

2. There is no consistency for "Menu Item :: [menu_name]" titles too. For example, you have written:

- A case: "Menu Item: Table - Web Link Category"
- Another: "Add / Edit Menu Item :: Component [ Polls]" => This must be "Menu Item :: Component [ Polls]".

=> I can do a list with those cases if you agree.

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leadict wrote:
9. Category Manager [ Content: All ] **NEW**
- Wrong screenshot => On IE 7
- Incorrect links => Copy Category, Category: Edit (see Toolbar description)
- Incorrect links => Category: New/Edit, Copy Category (see Related Information)
10. Category Manager: New or Edit **NEW**
- Split links -> Table - Content Category, Blog - Content Category , or Blog - Content Category Archive (see Link to Menu description)
- Rename links -> Blog -Content Category, Blog Content Category Archive  (see Related Information)
11. Category Manager [Content All]: Move **NEW**
- Wrong screenshot => On IE 7


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Hi Andy,

I have been reviewing the help screens at the back-end  ;) and i have done a table which summarizes the relationship between help screens and key references, and it reports the current problems (there are some link errors and other issues).

I would like to send you the document by e-mail.
Please contact me by pm.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:52 pm 
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Hi Andy,

I have sent you the document. Let me know if you got it.

Moreover, I have finished the Modules Menu Help Screens review:

1. Modules: What are they? **NEW**

- Incorrect link => *http://extensions.joomla.org* (see Third Party Modules)

- Incorrect links => Administrator Module: Edit [ Logged ] , Administrator Module: New (see Related Information)

- Perhaps an error => *http://developers.joomla.org* (Do you refer to the Dev Site or to the Forge? => See the text)

- Another minor issues

  • Almost all "Site Module" links are showed in a new window (this doesn't happen for the rest of links).
  • You could consider renaming "Administrator Module: Edit [modulename]" to "Admin Module..." (I see you have done the same for Help Screen Titles).

2. Module Manager [ Site ] **NEW**

- Unnecessary link => Module Manager [ Site ] => You could change it to Module Manager [ Administrator]

- Another minor issue => Like above, almost all links are showed in a new window.

3. Site Modules: Edit **NEW**

- A minor issue => Like above, almost all links are showed in a new window.

4. Site Modules: New **NEW**

- A minor issue => "Module Manager [ Site ]" link is showed in a new window (See Related Information)

5. Site Module: Edit [ Banners ] **NEW**

- Split links => Banner Manager , Banner Client Manager

- A minor issue => "Site Module: New" link is showed in a new window (See Related Information)

6. Site Module: Edit [ Main Menu ] **NEW**

- A minor issue => Module Manager [ Site ], Site Module: Edit [ Top Menu ], Site Module: Edit [ Other Menu ], Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ] => These links are showed in a new window (See Related Information)

- Another issue => You could include the screenshot for the Main Menu Module at Front-end (as you have done for User Menu Module...).

7. Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ] **NEW**

- Unnecessary link => Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ] => You could change it to Site Module: Edit [ Main Menu ]

- Invalid link => Menu Manager [mainmenu] => You must change it to Menu Manager [usermenu]

- A minor issue => Module Manager [ Site ], Site Module: Edit [ Top Menu ], Site Module: Edit [ Other Menu ] => These links are showed in a new window (See Related Information)

8. Site Module: Edit [ Other Menu ] **NEW**

- Invalid link => Menu Manager [mainmenu] => You must change it to Menu Manager [othermenu]

- A minor issue => Module Manager [ Site ], Site Module: Edit [ Top Menu ], Site Module: Edit [ Main Menu ], Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ] => These links are showed in a new window (See Related Information)

9. Site Module: Edit [ Top Menu ] **NEW**

- Invalid link => Menu Manager [mainmenu] => You must change it to Menu Manager [topmenu]

- Duplicated link => Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ] => You could change one of them to Site Module: Edit [ Main Menu ]

- A minor issue => Module Manager [ Site ], Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ], Site Module: Edit [ Other Menu ] => These links are showed in a new window (See Related Information)

10. Site Module: Edit [ Statistics ] **NEW**

- A minor issue => "Module Manager [ Site ]" link is showed in a new window (See Related Information)

11. Module Manager [ Administrator ] **NEW**

- Text error => "The following lists show the Site Modules...." => You must retype it to: "The following lists show the Administrator Modules...."

- Incorrect links => Administrator Module: Edit [ Logged ] , Administrator Module: Edit [ Components ] (see Related Information)

12. Admin Module: Edit [ Quick Icons ] **NEW** 

- Imager minor issue => Check the "Admin Module: Quick Icons" screenshot popup size (on IE)

13. Another minor issue you could consider:

There are no "Display Screenshots" for: Admin Module: Edit [ System Message ] , Admin Module: Edit [ Pathway ] , Admin Module: Edit [ Toolbar ] , Admin Module: Edit [ Full Menu ]

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:43 pm 
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leadict wrote:
I have sent you the document. Let me know if you got it.


Hi Leandro,

Unfortunately, nothing received yet :(

Andy

Edit: Further pm sent (with correct e-mail address :P)


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leadict wrote:

Moreover, I have finished the Modules Menu Help Screens review:

1. Modules: What are they? **NEW**



2. Module Manager [ Site ] **NEW**

3. Site Modules: Edit **NEW**

4. Site Modules: New **NEW**

5. Site Module: Edit [ Banners ] **NEW**

6. Site Module: Edit [ Main Menu ] **NEW**

7. Site Module: Edit [ User Menu ] **NEW**

8. Site Module: Edit [ Other Menu ] **NEW**

9. Site Module: Edit [ Top Menu ] **NEW**

10. Site Module: Edit [ Statistics ] **NEW**

11. Module Manager [ Administrator ] **NEW**

12. Admin Module: Edit [ Quick Icons ] **NEW** 

13. Another minor issue you could consider:


All of these have been updated.

Quote:
There are no "Display Screenshots" for: Admin Module: Edit [ System Message ] , Admin Module: Edit [ Pathway ] , Admin Module: Edit [ Toolbar ] , Admin Module: Edit [ Full Menu ]

System Message is just the icon - included in text.
Pathway - due to variation did not consider appropriate to include.
Full Menu - this was done but not uploaded for some reason ??? ???

I have to repeat that most of the link errors are simply because of this damned JCE "updating" issue, and the way it handles code such as the split links issue you have raised a number of times. I like its convenience but that has been negated by the duplication of effort that all this has required.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:12 am 
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Andy, excuse me if i am deadly dull :-[.

Please check these issues again:

leadict wrote:
1. Modules: What are they? **NEW**

- Incorrect link => *http://extensions.joomla.org* (=> It links to the Forge)

- Perhaps an error => *http://developers.joomla.org* (Do you refer to the Dev Site or to the Forge? => See the text)


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No you are not being deadly dull, but I am really getting p******* off with the JCE editor.

I have replaced the links on these from scratch.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:12 pm 
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Hi Andy,

First of all, I have finished the link/image review for the rest of Help Screens.

I found these issues:

A) MAMBOTS MENU HELP SCREENS

You must review the Mambot's Help Screen titles for consistency.

1. Mambots - What are they? **NEW** 

- Incorrect link => Edit [ Code Support ] (see Related Information)

2. Mambot Manager [Site] ** NEW**

- Incorrect link => Site Mambot: New screen (see Toolbar description)

- Incorrect link => Edit [ Code Support ] (see Related Information)

- Unnecessary link =>  Mambot Manager [ Site ]  (see Related Information)

3. Site Mambots: New or Edit **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Edit [ Code Support ] (see Related Information)

- Unnecessary link =>  Site Mambot: New  (see Related Information)

4. I found the same issues for all "Site Mambot: Edit [ Mambot Type ]" Help Screens.

- Incorrect link => Edit [ Code Support ] (see Related Information)

- Unnecesary link => For example, "Edit [ MOS Image ]" related information link into "Edit [ MOS Image ]" Help Screen (the same for the rest).

++++++

B) INSTALLERS MENU HELP SCREENS

1. Install new Template [ Administrator ] **NEW** 

- Incorrect link => Template Manager [ Administrator ] (see "The Success..." description)

- A minor issue => Perhaps unnecessary links: Site Template - Assign & Template Chooser

2. Install new Language - Site ** NEW**

- Incorrect link => Language Manager (see "The Success..." description)

- Incorrect links => Language Manager , Languages Forum (see Related Information)

3. Install New Modules and Manage Installed Modules **NEW**

- Incorrect link => Install New Components (see Related Information)

4. Install New Mambots and Manage Installed Mambots **NEW** 

- Incorrect links => Install New Components , Install New Modules (see Related Information)

++++++

C) MESSAGES MENU HELP SCREENS

You must split the content for "New Private Message". As i have mentioned on Back-end reviewing document, there is a Help Button into the Core Screen (for New Message) but now there is no Help Screen.

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D) SYSTEM MENU HELP SCREENS

1. System Information **NEW**

- Wrong screenshot => Information Tab (on IE 7)

- Wrong screenshot => Permissions Tab (on IE 7)

2. Global Check-in **NEW**

- A minor issue => The 1.0.12 version icon is aligned to the right.

++++++

E) HELP MENU HELP SCREENS

- Wrong screenshot => Help Screen 1.0.12

- Perhaps a link error => Check the "Joomla! Developer Portal" link => It links to the forge (see it at "Menu Bar description" and "Related Information).

- A minor issue => Clean the colon for each Related Information link.

++++++

Moreover, with regard to the Back-end review (the doc i have sent you), there is an error for "Check Version" comment. Now, i see this help screen actually exists, nevertheless there is no HTML file into \help folder for it.

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Leandro

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:15 pm 
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Hi Leandro,

All completed and a few other bits found along the way.
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C) MESSAGES MENU HELP SCREENS

You must split the content for "New Private Message". As i have mentioned on Back-end reviewing document, there is a Help Button into the Core Screen (for New Message) but now there is no Help Screen.

The link in the core files appears to have been changed/corrupted. There is little that can be done about it now. The key ref on the doc is correct as it is in the HTML file - it seems to be another occurrence of the issue spotted with other items. There was originally just the one screen and this continues to be the case.
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Moreover, with regard to the Back-end review (the doc i have sent you), there is an error for "Check Version" comment. Now, i see this help screen actually exists, nevertheless there is no HTML file into \help folder for it.
Yep it has just been missed in the turmoil of getting it ready back in December - hopefully it will be easily rectified with the Help Patch file.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:45 pm 
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humvee wrote:
Quote:
C) MESSAGES MENU HELP SCREENS

You must split the content for "New Private Message". As i have mentioned on Back-end reviewing document, there is a Help Button into the Core Screen (for New Message) but now there is no Help Screen.

The link in the core files appears to have been changed/corrupted. There is little that can be done about it now. The key ref on the doc is correct as it is in the HTML file - it seems to be another occurrence of the issue spotted with other items. There was originally just the one screen and this continues to be the case.


Andy,

Let me do a suggestion,

The key reference for "Messages Inbox" Help Screen is "screen.messages.inbox".
There is a key reference for "New Private Message" Core Screen labeled as "screen.messages.edit".

A possible solution would be to create a new Help Screen named "New Private Message" at Help Site which would include that key reference (screen.messages.edit). In this way we have a individual Help Screen for this Core Screen too.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:03 pm 
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Hi

There are two screens associated with messages 1 is inbox 2 is configuration. Creating another document with a new key reference is not going to make the button on the Messages Toolbar work.

The Help panel from the Control Panel includes the Inbox screen and it works fine. That is my main concern.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:18 pm 
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humvee wrote:
There are two screens associated with messages 1 is inbox 2 is configuration. Creating another document with a new key reference is not going to make the button on the Messages Toolbar work.


There are three screens and three help buttons associated with messages actually (1 is "inbox", 2 is "configuration" and 3 is "inbox=>new message") and there are three key references (1 is "screen.messages.inbox", 2 is "screen.messages.conf" and 3 is "screen.messages.edit"). So i said the issue could be solved by creating a new Help Screen at Help Site for the third.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:58 am 
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Well if you would "actually"  like to show me where there is a third help button on these screens I will gladly look at it again but the toolbars I have and that are displayed only show there to be two.

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humvee wrote:
Well if you would "actually"  like to show me where there is a third help button on these screens I will gladly look at it again but the toolbars I have and that are displayed only show there to be two.


Hi Andy,

This is the help screen:

Image

The help button includes "screen.messages.edit" key reference.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:42 am 
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Hi

Right I have caught up with the plot. I have been doing this far toooooooooooooooooo long!!

Sorry Leandro now on the same page with experimentation.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:53 am 
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humvee wrote:
Sorry Leandro now on the same page with experimentation.


Don't worry.  I see that you have created the new Help Screen.

All is OK now. Thanks very much.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:32 pm 
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Hi Andy,

Whenever you can address, there are some pending issues (i reported them on my review as "Incorrect help screen, key reference or link", highlighted in red color).

These are:

1. "User Manager" help screen at Help site, you must retype the key reference to "screen.users" (now the key reference is "screen.users.edit").

2. "User Manager [ User : Edit ]" help screen at Help site, you must retype the key reference to "screen.users.edit" (now the key reference is "screen.users.edit2").

3. "Menu Manager [ mainmenu ]" help screen. We have mentioned it above (the help button links to "Menu Item: Link - Content Item"). You said the key reference (screen.menus) is placed into the correct Help Screen. Perhaps it can be duplicated (see "Menu Item: Link - Content Item" at Help Site).

4. "Site Mambots: New / Edit" help screen. This could be a similar issue (the help button links to "Site Mambot: MOS Image"). If the key reference (screen.mambots.edit) is placed into the correct Help Screen, you can check if it is duplicated (see "Site Mambot: MOS Image" at Help Site).

Note: Solution you have adopted for "Template Manager [Site]" Help Screen (the strategy redirecting to the correct screen) could be applied to another cases (see the review for issues highlighted in orange color) => Perhaps you are already doing it ;).

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