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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:38 pm 
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hi my name is hurshal patel. I am 15 years old and I found out about GHOP through my AP Comp Sci teacher.

My topic is:

Create a tri-fold brochure entitled "How to contribute in an open source
community" with ideas for new community members.

Possible information resources:

    * Understanding Open Source Ecosystems -
http://www.joomla.org/component/option, ... 105/p,363/
    * Google Search -
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ho ... tnG=Search

Skills Needed

    * Good communication skills.
    * Creativity.
    * Good Public Relations Skills.
    * Good Open Office Writer and communication skills.

Difficulty

Simple.

Work Product

Attractive, correctly written white paper. Use Joomla! logo and color
scheme. http://www.joomla.org/content/view/259/70/

Licensing

Documentation written for this task must be made available under the
Joomla! Electronic Documentation License.

Extra Credit (Optional)

Interview several people who contribute in the Joomla! project.

Time Limit

2 weeks.

My only question right now is waht you mean by "Documentation written for this task must be made available under the
Joomla! Electronic Documentation License."

Does that mean that one I complete it you can use this brochure anywhere you want?
Thanks 8)
hpatel


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:53 pm 
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Hurshal, I am happy to assist you with this task by means of an interview. Let me know.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:00 pm 
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Yes, that's basically what it means. There is a copy of the license at the google site in the wiki.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:39 pm 
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Hi Hurshal,

hpatel wrote:
My only question right now is waht you mean by "Documentation written for this task must be made available under the
Joomla! Electronic Documentation License."

Does that mean that one I complete it you can use this brochure anywhere you want?

You can read the full license text here: http://www.developer.joomla.org/wiki/JEDL and there is a FAQ on the license here: http://www.developer.joomla.org/wiki/JEDL/FAQ.

In a nutshell the license is a means to ensure that documents intended to be used freely by everyone (free as in freedom), cannot have that usage restricted arbitrarily.  So by publishing your document under the JEDL anyone is free to take a copy of your document and give (or even sell) copies to anyone else provided they give the recipients the same freedoms that they themselves were given.  This is very much in the spirit of open source and if it sounds familiar it's because it is essentially the same philosophy behind the General Public License (GPL) under which Joomla! itself (and many, many other open source projects) is released.

The license is called an electronic documentation license because it does not apply to printed documents and since you, as the original author, retain copyright on the document, if a publisher wanted to include your document in a book they would have to ask your permission first.  Whether you grant such permission, deny it, or sell it for a fee, is entirely up to you.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:16 am 
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thanks for the help, guys
I just want to know if the brochure has to be in any particular format, and is it double sided?
hpatel ???


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:16 am 
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Yes two sided would be good.

Do you mean a set format in terms of layout and logos? No.

In terms of files, we would like *.odt  or you could use Scribus.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:07 pm 
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thanks. now I can start working on it.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:47 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:41 pm 
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You might want to read my pamphlet design concepts at: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,238645.msg1100105.html#msg1100105

There are logos and logo style sheets at: http://www.joomla.org/content/view/259/70/


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:37 am 
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thanks for the tip, dan

right now this is how the brochure is organized:

Front page - logo and title

folded inside page - a blurb, bullet points

1st inside page - what is open source?

2nd inside page - how do you contribute to an open source project?

3rd inside page - how do you contribute to Joomla!?

back page - logo, website, other info


I just want to know if this kind of a layout is ok, or if I need to rearrange things or include other information
thanks,
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:15 am 
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I think that is a fine layout. Now just polish your text and pay attention to composition. You should be fine.  Good luck with the contest, Dan


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:02 pm 
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a quick question:
is the logo with the slogan preferred on the cover, or should it only be inside?
thanks,
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:32 am 
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my file is over 100KB.
here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/75511669/trifoldopensource4.odt.html
please tell me if anything needs to be changed
thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:43 am 
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Good start!

The inner Joomla! logo violates the standards. It should not be dulled in color or placed behind text or an object.
What does open source mean? --> What is open source software?
http://www.opensource.org/ --> http://www.opensource.org/osd
Many projects, including Joomla! are --> Many projects, including Joomla!, are
Higher quality products --> Higher quality
Less bugs --> fewer bugs
Hot-Tos and Tutorials --> Tutorials and FAQs

I would add a section on conduct. How does a good open source citizen act?

And, after "what is open source software?" and "why open source?" I would address the issue of "Why should you contribute?"

If you choose to put your name on the brochure, it should be less pronounced. Maybe a "Written by" on the back panel in small font.

As a reminder - this is due on Dec 13. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:19 am 
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here is my latest draft
http://rapidshare.com/files/75973611/trifoldopensourcevisual3.odt.html
please tell me if anything needs to be changed.
thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:05 am 
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Looking good!

Remove a single space in front of every item on the What is Joomla! list *except* personal webpages.

remove the http:// values

remove www. in front of joomla.org and opensource.org

Change "and redistribute it for free" to "and distribute it"

Confusing?
Quote:
Why Open Source?
There are many open source projects, including Joomla!, because of its benefits:


Maybe change the following to "Create a template to share with others"
Quote:
For Joomla!, you can suggest a new GUI theme to be created


Lower case "should:"
Quote:
Why Should you Contribute?


I would work on the wording of this.
Quote:
Why Should you Contribute?
When the program you are running is not up to standards, has many bugs, or there is just something missing, it needs to be fixed.To help improve the program, you should mention it  so it can be fixed, or fix it yourself for the benefit of all users.


Something like this?
Quote:
An open source community has available only that which members contribute. It's important to also give something back. Doing so provides benefit to others and allows you to become a part of the project.


ettiquette --> etiquette

Excellent list of conduct.

Needs a little more pizazz on the inside.

Getting close! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:26 pm 
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here it is with your changes
http://rapidshare.com/files/76161785/trifoldopensourcevisual4.odt.html
also, what do you mean when you say "pizazz"?
Is it too wordy?
Should I add more pictures?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:26 am 
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Missing a c - in create
Quote:
For Joomla!, you can reate a template to share with others


remove http://www.
Quote:
http://www.opensource.org/osd


If you could add a bit of graphics to the second page - without any images - that might be nice.

This is a very good piece. It gets the important issues across. It is well designed. If you make the two fixed I indicated, above, I accept this task as complete.

We need one more judge to agree. Then, we will mark this thread "solved." When you post this work at Google, we will close that task and you will be free to select another, if you want.

Thank you for your contributions to the Joomla! and Open Source Communities! You have been a real pleasure to work with.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:37 am 
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I like your brochure!  You really explained what open source is well.

Quote:
Make sure you don't repeat questions or comments

Ouch!  I feel guilty now!

Quote:
Create your own Joomla! extension or feature

You might want to say it more broadly so it applies to all open-source applications, such as, "Create an extension for programs like Joomla!" or "Create an extension or plugin to a program".

Even if you don't change the sentence, it will still be a great brochure.  Just make sure you add the c to create!

The only other thing I should add is that it runs over to three pages on my computer, so you will want to make sure there is a pdf available as well as the odt.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:20 am 
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thanks, amy and trombonechamp
im new to open office, so i am having trouble using it.
As of now, i have changed the two mistakes, and i have 2 trifold variations.
the only difference between them is that one of them has the reference
Quote:
The full definition is available at the Open Source Initiative's website: opensource.org/osd

in a text box, instead of as a paragraph.
i know its not much, but it the only change i could make.
please tell me which one works better!

the original design
http://rapidshare.com/files/76205647/trifold_original.zip.html

with textbox the change
http://rapidshare.com/files/76205882/trifold_textbox.zip.html
thanks for all the help
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:44 am 
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That tri-fold looks great!

I like the box better - but (you are going to hate me!) - the link is wrong - it should be --> opensource.org/docs/osd

So, better stick with the no box version.

I'll try to get another judge to look at this. I think it's good! You have been such a pleasure to work with - you have considered everyone's comments and integrated these ideas into your work. This will be a great resource for those who are new to open source, and providing context is helpful to people as they get started.

Thank you very much. I accept this as complete. When a second judge indicates the same, we will mark this thread as complete, you can post on Google, then we will close the task there, and you will be free to select another task, if you choose.

Thank you for your contributions to the Joomla! community!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:32 pm 
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I fixed the link and have the final version as .odt and .pdf
http://rapidshare.com/files/76364500/trifold_final_draft.zip.html
hope you like it
thanks for all your help
i look forward to participating in more Joomla! tasks.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:17 pm 
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I like it and I think it looks really good!  Well done Hurshal.  :)

Please feel free to upload your finished version onto the Google issue tracker.  As soon as you have done so we will mark the task as closed and you will be free to claim another task if you want to.

Good luck with the contest!

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