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117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:17 pm

This is my last issue.  :'(  Wait... If I can finish it in 36 hours, I can choose a new task!  :laugh:  Right...

Anyway, the link to the task is:
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly- ... %20Summary

I am going to do this in Blender.  My idea is to make a bunch of human heads, and then line them up to make them look like the Joomla! logo.  I have a feeling it won't look that great, though, so it may change soon.

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby AmyStephen » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:37 pm

I am seriously intrigued.  :pop

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:43 pm

That sounds interesting!
I'd love to see it! :)

And btw.. thanks for the changes you made at 'my' doc-camp article :)
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:21 am

Here is what I have done so far.  It is by no means complete.  The only problem: I left it to render (this is 1 frame!!) for 45 minutes, and the render screen was still black.  I tried that twice!  :o  I will leave it on overnight and see if I get anything.  That's what I get for giving 30+ people hair on a cheap Celeron M...

http://BernsteinForPresident.com/joomlaperson.blend

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby AmyStephen » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:31 am

Thank you for answering eight community member questions today, including this one and this one.

There is no doubt that you are a community builder. You do very well working with people and you notice what others have done and share it appropriately. 

Amy :)

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby AmyStephen » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:33 am

Perhaps I shall embarrass myself and discover that this IS the art, but, this is what I see when I click your link.  :P

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby shantanubala » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:50 am

Oh. Max, you're using blender right?

This may be the problem Amy http://www.blender.org/ - the software that he's using to make it. It's probably required to open that file, unless Max can export it into a bitmap.
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:07 am

Perhaps I shall embarrass myself and discover that this IS the art, but, this is what I see when I click your link.  Tongue

Yeah, sorry for that.  You need Blender.  It is FOSS, though!  :)  You have to right click and "Save Target as".
It's probably required to open that file, unless Max can export it into a bitmap.

I tried to render it, and it takes far too long.  I am working on a new idea that doesn't require hours to render. 

Thank you for answering eight community member questions today, including this one and this one.

Wow!  Eight!?!  I just realized, "Hey, Joomla! is more than just GHOP!" so I started answering some more questions.  I plan to do more than just eight!  8)

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:27 am

This is my first draft.  The moon backdrop picture is public domain.  Hope you like it!  :)
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby shantanubala » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:59 am

Love the quote, and awesome job with the graphic! The font's cool too. Can't wait to see some of what you produce :D
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:43 am

Okay, here is draft 2.  I think it is time to explain some of the symbolism.

-The lone snowflake is an individual.  This individual is beautiful by itself, but...
-The snowman is Joomla! (or really any foss project).  It is created snowflake by snowflake, until you have something great.
-Notice where the snowman is looking
-The quote seemed to connect to the the whole scene by being completely opposite.  My analogy is to snow, the karate master's is to a fire.

Hope you like it!
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby shantanubala » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:01 am

Hey, is it possible to save in PNG format? the Jpg is kinda making things fuzzy where the colors meet.

Other than that, awesome!
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:46 pm

Okay, here it is as a PNG

http://BernsteinForPresident.com/snowscene3.png

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:34 pm

Looks very nice!
Don't know if that's allowed for the Joomla! Logo.
I thought it should have a white or black background.
http://www.joomla.org/content/view/259/70/
(please..don't blame me, I'm not sure about it ;) )

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:01 am

Don't know if that's allowed for the Joomla! Logo.
I thought it should have a white or black background.
http://www.joomla.org/content/view/259/70/

Does anybody know for sure?  The png had a transparent background.  I thought you could use it on any background where it was obvious what the logo was.
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:09 am

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,240528.30.html
In this topic Amy writes something about it.
Should have a solid background, white or black are very much appreciated I read.

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:18 am

I don't think it is "busy" though.  Look on pg. 19 of the Joomla! brand manual.
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:27 am

I don't know for sure, but hope it's OK of course! Looks perfect right now.
Perhaps you should just wait for an answer from Amy, Elin or some one else.

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:08 pm

I "retouched" the colors.  What do you think?

http://BernsteinForPresident.com/snowscene3.png

P.S.-Is the logo fine?  It is against an almost black backdrop.
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:36 pm

Colors look perfect!
I think the logo is perfect as well. The contrast should be enough like this :)

Well done!

Do you think it is ready like this or are you going to add or change things?

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:01 pm

I'm not sure.  I am waiting for a few more people to look at it.  I really don't want to, because that means GHOP is over, but I will if people think it is.

So for anyone out there: tell me what you think!
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby shantanubala » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:10 pm

It looks great. I'm not really sure if there's anything you can really add or change at this point, but good work.

The Joomla! logo should be ok, since the background color is consistent with the rest of the image.

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:25 pm

Here is a completely new one.  I uploaded a low-res jpeg so I didn't have to do the final render.  The things I didn't like about the other one:
-The snowman was a shadow.  The snowman represented the Joomla! project.  This makes it seem uninviting.  Now it is just emerging into light, showing the opportunities are just beginning.
-The image of the sky I used was low-res.  I really wanted to do a 4000x3000 render for the final.  I couldn't find a good PD one for this, so I took my own.

How is this one in comparison to the old?
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:41 pm

Don't know which one I prefer.
I like the idea that the snowman is brighter right now.
The individual/lonely snowflake is perhaps a bit too big right now.
The other background I liked more.
In the text they talk about the 'entire circle of friends'. I think it would be nice to show this as well in your picture.
Perhaps a circle of snowmans, the different open source project not concurrenting, but working together.

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:47 am

I tried two more ideas relating to more than one snowman.  These are draft renders, without the text/logo.
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby shantanubala » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:52 am

The second one is awesome (the one with the campfire)! But, I'm still not sure whether I like you're original one, or these... How about submitting both ;)
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby Marieke92 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:54 am

I love the second one as well! :)
Well done!
You really do awesome work! :) I wish I could do so..
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:35 am

I fit all of the symbolism in! :pop The only thing I am missing that I liked before is the campfire.  The problem I was having with multiple snowmen around the campfire before was the fact that it kind of ruined some of the symbolism (light emerging onto the snowman).  This includes more symbolism: you are backed by the entire free software community.

Let me know what you think.
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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby AmyStephen » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:06 am

trombonechamp wrote:I'm not sure.  I am waiting for a few more people to look at it.  I really don't want to, because that means GHOP is over, but I will if people think it is.


I have enjoyed watching this wonderful group of community member talk. It makes me feel so good to have gotten to know each of you - you are all so amazing.

I like the look of the snow people congregated around the fire - but - snow melts - so it looked a bit suicidal to me! ;)

I think the use of the Joomla! logo was perfect. Max is correct - provided the background is not busy, and on a fairly solid to solid backing. Looks good.

One thing I kept thinking as I saw the snow and looked at the solid logo was that soon the logo would become the snow.

Love this --> you are backed by the entire free software community.

Max - you are wonderful. What a great pleasure to work with you and to be made better by your support and involvement. Thank you!

Amy :)

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Re: 117 - Create art that captures All Together, as a Whole

Postby trombonechamp » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:47 pm

Here is my next version. 

http://BernsteinForPresident.com/snowscene9.png  (HQ)

Any other suggestions?  I should start the final render soon so I can edit it.  Speak now or forever hold your piece!  :)
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