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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:57 pm 
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Hello,

Despite I set up general settings of articles via - Content - Article manager - Parameters, articles do not behave like that. For example no icons (PDF, print) should appear, but they do. Articles themselves are set up on "global settings", but they do not work. It works only when I forbid parameters directly in article, but that is not solution.

Can you please help?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:28 pm 
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Just to conform I have the same problem. I'm trying to hide the 'modified data and time' and the 'created date and time' but setting the global parameters seems to have no effect.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:30 am 
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hi all,

I like to add my experience on this issue. I use Article Manager/Parameters/ Global Config to Hide author, dates, modified dates. It works when individual article is displayed. When the same article is displayed at FrontPage, the Hide items appear. However, if you go into each article and use the Parameters - Advanced, to Hide author, dates, modified dates, then it will not appear at Frontpage.

Why Global Config does not work at Frontpage? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:22 am 
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Just a question...
On the Articles that do still show the items that have been set Globally to o
"Off" - do the individual Article parameters show those same items as "Use Global" or "Show".

Setting the Global Parameters does not change any individual Article parameters that may have been set. Nor will it reverse any changes already made. They do set a default behaviour which will apply unless changed at the Article level.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:48 am 
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Well,

all of the articles have settings "Use global". Icons dissapear only when I set up "hide" in the article itself, but I need it to work globally - I do not see a solution in setting up each article - one by one.

The problem is, that my global configuration does not affect any article. For example, I set up "title linkable" but titles of my articles are not linkable at all.

I would like to remark, that this applies also to new articles as well s to articles, that were populated in the default Joomla installation.

So what can I do to fix it?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:43 am 
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humvee wrote:
Just a question...
On the Articles that do still show the items that have been set Globally to o
"Off" - do the individual Article parameters show those same items as "Use Global" or "Show".

Setting the Global Parameters does not change any individual Article parameters that may have been set. Nor will it reverse any changes already made. They do set a default behaviour which will apply unless changed at the Article level.

hth

Andy



At the individual article, the Parameter-Advanced still has "Use Global". Thus, my conclusion that Global Config doesn't work at Frontpage.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:59 am 
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This is related. Use Global to hide the icons (pdf, print, email), however, they still show up. Works only if I change at the individual article Parameter-Advanced. When it still show up, the individual article had 'Use Global' ON.

Is there Permission somewhere that I need to adjust? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:57 am 
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Check that the Front Page Menu Item Parameters are also configured as these will impact also.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:23 am 
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I'm having this problem too. I'm pasting the JTS-post report below.

Problem Description:
In the "Article Manager," changing "Parameters" doesn't have any effect. It remembers the settings I choose even if I log out and back into administration, but it doesn't effect how the site works. (That is, if I tell it not to show author, date of creation, date modified, etc., the defaults are still applied.)

There are no error messages

Actions Taken To Resolve:
I've tried changing permissions, assigning all files to www-data group and giving write access to group. The files in question are the default "sample data" automatically installed, and as you can verify on your own installation, they all have "Use Global" for all their advanced parameters. The only way to hide author/dates/etc. is to change these settings to "Hide" on each individual article.

Diagnostic Information
Joomla! Version: Joomla! 1.5.3 Production/Stable [ Vahi ] 22-April-2008 22:00 GMT
configuration.php: Writable (Mode: 664 ) | RG_EMULATION: N/A
Architecture/Platform: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic ( i686) | Web Server: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_musicindex/1.2.1 ( subanet.org ) | PHP Version: 5.2.4-2ubuntu5
PHP Requirements: register_globals: Disabled | magic_quotes_gpc: Enabled | safe_mode: Disabled | MySQL Support: Yes | XML Support: Yes | zlib Support: Yes
mbstring Support (1.5): Yes | iconv Support (1.5): Yes | save.session_path: Writable | Max.Execution Time: 30 seconds | File Uploads: Enabled
MySQL Version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5 ( Localhost via UNIX socket )


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:27 am 
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I forgot to mention that I'm having this problem with all pages, not just the front page. That is, every article on every page shows author/date created/date modified/etc., unless I turn off each of these things individually in the page's advanced parameters. The global settings have no impact on any page on the site as far as I can tell, regardless of the template I'm using.


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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:25 am 
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I too would like to globally turn off article date/modified, etc. It's a pain to turn each one off individually. I don't even see anywhere in Global Configuration that I could do this. Why is 'set global' even there as an option?


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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:35 pm 
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I stumbled upon this thread as I'm cleaning up my site in preparation for launching it.

Found the solution here:
http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=285892&p=1285048#p1284994

The menus can override the global article settings as well. I changed my Home menu to all Use Global under the Component Parameters and found that all the unwanted icons went away.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:27 am 
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The biggest problem arises it seems from when Joomla! has initially been installed using the default sample_data and then just converted to the Users own requirements, but it keeps the settings established by the initial install. If you do a clean install without sample_data and create all your own Menus and Articles from scratch it seems to be less of an issue.

Just a thought

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:16 pm 
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Basically, "Use Global" Works in this hiearchy...

Global params (the "Params" settings in com_content) override nothing...
Menu params override global params (unless "Use Global" is set)
Article params override everything (Unless "Use Global" is set)...

Most people don't realize that middle layer...

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:05 am 
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See this article (about Global configuration x Parameters Component):

http://www.phoca.cz/articles/joomla/com ... id-joomla/

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:39 pm 
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peter.strnad wrote:
Hello,

Despite I set up general settings of articles via - Content - Article manager - Parameters, articles do not behave like that. For example no icons (PDF, print) should appear, but they do. Articles themselves are set up on "global settings", but they do not work. It works only when I forbid parameters directly in article, but that is not solution.

Can you please help?

Thanks

Peter


I agree with peter.strnad,

the Article Manager, Global Configuration Parameters, are not working right.

For example, I set up at Global Configuration > Author Name: Show
In the Category List Menu > Author Name: Hide (just to hide the Author Name in that page/table)
In the Article > Author Name: Use Globals

So as soon as the Global Configuration is set to show the Author Name, the Article that is set Use globals must show the Author Name. But it is not showing.

Is that right? In version 1.0.x it doesn't happen.

Any help please, thank you


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:32 pm 
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Has anyone figured out how to remove the three icons from ONLY the front page> I do want them to appear in the article when the Read More is clicked, but I don't want them on the front page as they clutter the content. Seems like there should be a way of doing this.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:04 pm 
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Go to your home menu and adjust the parameters there.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:51 pm 
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Show article title = OFF in the global configuration
Menu item as well as article is set to USE GLOBAl.

Still the article title shows!

There is definitely something wrong, isn't there!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:22 pm 
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Thank you so much for the explanation of Params Hierarchy,... makes perfect sense, and now I can stop pulling my hair out.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:04 pm 
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Thank you SO much Anthony for the explanation! Yep, it was the 'middle' item (Menu) that was getting me. Now my hair can start growing out again :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:34 am 
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Dear Friends,

I had the same problem but it seems we all (including me) did not understand Joomla Settings. Finally after a lot of hunting around Joomla I found out how to solve this puzzle.

Frontpage is a component and has its own article display parameters as well, similar to articles, which override the Global Settings.

All you need to do is go to Menu Manager and click on Main Menu Items, then Click on Home to edit the Front Page Display Settings. Set those settings you need to Use Globals.

This way, any changes you make to the Article manager Global Settings, will also effect the FrontPage Component.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:20 pm 
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Thanks Kevin,

please could someone explain how can I how the author name just in the article page?! Without it showing in the front-page and the section/category pages.

Cos in Joomla 1.0.x was very simple, and Joomla 1.5.x I coulnd't figure out...

Thank you!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:43 pm 
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Dasmonstrum77,

If you set the Author to be hidden in the Menu Items / Home, and set the Author to Show in the Articles Manager / Global settings you will be able to achieve what you want.

The above will hide all Authors in the Frontpage but show when in the Article View.

For the Section/Category, it is very similar to the above, but instead of editing the Menu Items / Home, you need to edit the menu link which points to your Section / Category pages.

I hope that my reply answered your question,

Kevin C.

Dasmonstrum77 wrote:
Thanks Kevin,

please could someone explain how can I how the author name just in the article page?! Without it showing in the front-page and the section/category pages.

Cos in Joomla 1.0.x was very simple, and Joomla 1.5.x I coulnd't figure out...

Thank you!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:07 pm 
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I'm still having issues with this after migrating a correctly ordered 1.13 site to a 1.5.8 site.

I migrated to a blank DB and the ordering did not show up after the migration.

Section ordering is working fine category ordering is not working at all...

I've gone thru every menue item for sections and categories and set the section order and category to use order but category ordering is never reflected in the category displays.

I understand from the above global param settings but ordering isn't relected on the global params, only menu paramaters...

Am I missing something specific to getting the category ordering working?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:16 pm 
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Check that the Front Page Menu Item Parameters are also configured as these will impact also.

Somebody said the above - well that's the key people. Go into the menu item that's assigned to the front page, and you'll see that most of the parameters AREN'T assigned to Global. Change these and the problem should be solved.

Also, the front page menu item defaults to Blog layout - i'd change this to Article layout (unless specifically wanting a blog, but this is less flexible).


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:51 am 
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Just updated to 1.5.9 and this ordering still doesn't work :-(

I'm running a uncategorized article as my frontpage - rockettheme mediamoglul. The main menu items are article/section/table layouts and all advanced parameters are set to sort by section and category ordering for every menu item.

The Frontpage that isn't even being used is set to list a table by ordering...

And still category tables will display a list of articles sorted by ordering....

from another thread i was referred to:
http://docs.joomla.org/How_to_control_Category_List_layouts_when_drilling_from_a_Section_Layout

So I created an additional menu - not assigned to any module- specifically for an article category

In the menu settings for this one category I selected ordering and no filter to be displayed... Here's what is displayed

http://www.mysmallbizwebhosting.com/video/frontpage/

There's a filter on it with text "WL Filter" in front of it and the articles are sorted in newest to oldest instead of "ordering" and the number of hits are displayed.

In the menu settings "filter was set to hidden as well as hits"

Any other Suggestions???

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:06 am 
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bonebodies wrote:
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Check that the Front Page Menu Item Parameters are also configured as these will impact also.

Somebody said the above - well that's the key people. Go into the menu item that's assigned to the front page, and you'll see that most of the parameters AREN'T assigned to Global. Change these and the problem should be solved. .

That is assuming they are using the "Sample Data", otherwise it's irrelevant.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:26 am 
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hi,

The joomla 1.5 MVC based system contain mainly 3 type of parameter settings

1) Global Parameter (parameters of a component)
2) Article (Item) level parameter
3) Menu level parameter

When we create a menu item for a article, the Article (item) level parameters have more priority
Example:
Global parameter value = 0
Item level parameter value = 1
Menu Level Parameter value = 0

Finally it will take value as 1 ( from Item level parameter)


If we create a menu item for a listing view then
"menu level parameters" have more priority.

Actually in the "View" logic of a component doing the merging of parameters.


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In my case I have no article:category menu items.. only article:section items.

the article manager global params are set to sort by order.
the main menu advanced params for every article:section are set to sort section by order and category by order

So where else is there some where to set the ordering?

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