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vancanneyt
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A suggestion that i remember from a long time ago, the possibility for subcategories. In the past it would be implemented in a futere release but now we are more then a year further and this feature hasn't quite get a lot attention but many users are asking for the possibility to have subcategories in the system. Bigger sites need those more frequent but also smaller websites can use this.

I don't know if this requires many restructuring but i would like to know how you guys think of it?

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Yes this would be great but afaik it's postponed to 2.0 wich will have a node type structure afaik.

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but is it worth to wait so long? we've been asking for it a long time ans it's something that we realy miss in Joomla, i don't know if it could be implemented.

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AmyStephen
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:09 am 
SoC dudes! It's coming up SOON!

But, it will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be called nodes. I do not care what Grisbald says and how nice he really is. < lol >

Check my signature line. No nodes. Quit talking like that before it catches on.
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I second the death to "nodes" idea. It is a NO GO...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:58 am 
coreyb wrote:
I second the death to "nodes" idea. It is a NO GO...


Cool - let's also gang up on Grisbald! < lol --- I hope he happens upon this gang mentality ... and laughs! >

Corey - join me in outing this Node Notion once and for all -- add a line testifying to your undying commitment against the node to your signature! Thanks, dude!
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Done. What the HECK is a node anyway...  :P

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:32 am 
coreyb wrote:
Done. What the HECK is a node anyway...  :P


Dude - I think you nailed it! MOST excellent. Mind sharing? I should like very much to have the Node portion of your sig! < Now, I think you have one too many lines and may get into trouble if you do not adjust! >

< Mods - one more OT post in Corey's response, then, we will be on our way. Soe-ree! >


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Amy, Go right ahead. My thoughs are always "open source". lol  :laugh:

[my last OT as well...]

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Just to clarify, the Little Caesars bad guy was "noid" not "node". Nodes are elements that can be traversed within an hierarchical structure, much like one would find in a system implementing sections, categories, and subcategories. Nonetheless, for something like Joomla, leaving the terms as categories and such really is simpler and better. :)
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AmyStephen
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:08 am 
@Columcille -

We could adjust the statement < author willing, of course > to say no "noids" or "nodes" IF you are willing to join our crusade and wear the signature, too!

You have all of that un-used real estate -- and could be an excellent spokesperson to help further the cause.

What do you say? Join us!
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PS - and don't say "traverse" too much, either, K?  :P
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I'm waiting to see whether the "other side" offers a better incentive for my participation than just changing the spelling of a word.
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AmyStephen
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A shrewd player.  8) Do not sign until you return and give us another shot at you; that is all I ask.
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Sorry, too late. One of their operatives just emailed me with an offer for pink fluffy teddy bears. Now ordinarily an offer of pink fluffy teddy bears would insult me. But right when the email arrived my 11 month old daughter looked at me with a pitiful expression and I realized that I truly do need pink fluffy teddy bears. So I am afraid that, node or noid, I'll have to give it my support.
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I understood when you said "11-month daughter" - you made an excellent choice; no one can blame you. < I'll bet she is GORGEOUS. >

< OT DONE. >
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She is.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertsclan/156760139/
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:23 am 
Man - she is FABULOUS!!! Thanks for sharing. Very sweet indeed. Look halfway down the page on this one < http://community.nebraska.edu/amyblog/i ... postrophe/ > and you will find my baby girl. She was born not too long ago, too! < lol > Enjoy your time. Make the most of it!

< This is not OT - this is community building! >

Thanks again for sharing - how wonderful! Amy
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Noid/Node, it was a play on words... see sig. version 1.2 for updates. No credit needed for use. :D Just sign on to the "AVOID THE NODE" campaign.

Noid = Domino's, the only thing that keeps my little greasy pepperoni stained fingers tying away.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noid
Node = Really difficult mental processing and cerebral breakdown...
See: http://www.apa.org/
No more OT I promise... [fingers really not crossed...] :laugh:

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and now back on topic :D

i guess there is nobody interested in nodes and maybe subcategories do?

we have also now a possible change of content to articles so why not a change to have subcategories?

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I don't care about the nodes, but I AGREE, that section should be removed and to have unlimited number of subcategories (or even limited to 6-th level or something).

Currently, on simple sites, I need Only top-level repositories (now sections) and in more complicated I need more deep levels.

Proposed structure:

- Non assosiated Article (Known currently as Static Text)
- Top Level Category
  - Article 1
  - Sub Category 1
      - Article 2
      - Sub Category 2
          - Article 3

etc...
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that is exactly what i had in mind ;)

node's and stuff nope, section-categorie nope

top level category insated of section and multiple sub-categories.

we wait already verry long for something like this and cause of the numerous changes in 1.5 maybe this is a good thing ? If we have towait till J!2.0 i guess this is again more then a year further so we don't have any progress for this many requested item.

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As far as I can't see 2.0 in 2007 (personal opinion), I think the restructure of the content management repositories should be done in 1.5
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we are still not in beta phase so it is still possible i guess, they are now discussing also the content tot articles so this is something to bring on the agenda too.
any devs that aggrees for the suggestion :D ?

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I dislike very much any section/cat/sub-cat - it's a very old-to date stuff!

The path among contents has to be very flexible.

The idea is to start viewing at what joomlafrance does http://www.joomlafrance.org/

My idea is to see their method as a starting point for a new renewed "link" for contents!

PS. I remember that Joomla isn't a copy of phpnuke solutions

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Just make it logic.

User customizable (forget Section ..).

Cat / subCat / subCat

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:12 pm 
ivo.apostolov wrote:
As far as I can't see 2.0 in 2007 (personal opinion), I think the restructure of the content management repositories should be done in 1.5


NO!!!! lol....I understand, Ivo. I believe, though, that there will be a Summer of Code (SoC) student addressing this very issue -- and actually has already started work. So, I think we are on it! I know the developers share interest in this, as well.

Here on the Dev site, the describe the "node based scheme: " < http://dev.joomla.org/content/view/1360/85/ >
And they offer this resource: < http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/art ... -data.html >

I know there is more out there. I saw a very interesting set of posts from SpaceMonkey on the recursive DB design.

So, Ivo - I think the devs share your (and everyone's) passion on this - and - I believe if the SoC project works out, we are getting close!

Newart - I am not certain < being a stupid American > what I should be looking at there to get an idea of what JoomlaFrance is doing. Sorry!

Amy
PS - CoreyB - I am not abandoning our cause -- that "node" word was actually in the title of the article, and I am trying to help Ivo and Newart find it. No worries - I am still part of the "Say No! to Node!" campaign. Founding, card carrying member.
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AmyStephen wrote:
SoC dudes! It's coming up SOON!

But, it will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be called nodes. I do not care what Grisbald says and how nice he really is. < lol >

Check my signature line. No nodes. Quit talking like that before it catches on.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Node
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:32 pm 
1nf1n17yLOVE wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Node
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Dammit - it's going to be node, isn't it. Wiki never lies.
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Hmm what about calling them tags :)
Tag1 < tag2 < article.html :P

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newart,
why do you mention joomlafrance, we use just plain old joomla..?

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