http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,96590.0.htmlIts been locked for some reason so continuing here. moderator feel free to move it back
Louis,no one is picking a fight here but I've just read your post and am now even more confused than ever.
I didn't lock the thread... it was done by a moderator that likely felt the thread was going to cause a problem... again I repeat, it was not my decision.
You state several things that appear to contradict each other - at least to my mind
"is that it has been stated lots of times that an ajax framework will NOT ship with 1.5" so what is xajax then?
Semantics brian... what is the first thing you do after you install Joomla!? delete the installation folder... thus xajax is no longer a part of it. I will as you suggest I am either incapable of or unwilling to state that I was wrong... an ajax library DOES ship with 1.5.. in the installation application that is NOT part of the CMS. It is not part of the Joomla! framework, the Site application nor the Administration application.
Given that caveat, I was wrong
xajax does ship with 1.5 ... but it is NOT for component development nor is it part of the Content Management System.
As for your problem with being able to call the library only once...
Its not Phil's problem its the whole Joomla community
It seems that you have something that works for your commercial endeavors...
no it works for ALL endeavours not just commercial and that is an underhand swipe Louis and you should know better than that. (Its not as if you have never earned any money through your knowledge of joomla is it)
If you had read my post you would have understood that it is not a problem. I was toying with xajax in the menu manager and have removed it. I believe that Johan even told Phil that in the discussion where Phil posted private conversations on the forum... He however, left that part out of his diatribe. The fact is that phil implementing it the way he did is what broke 1.5... 1.5 did not break phil's plugin.
The simple fact is that if you want it in the libraries folder bad enough you will find a way
As i stated before Louis there were lots of very good reasons that the core team decided to put things like xajax in the libraries folder and I fail to see why xajax isn't put there. Why you cant just be honest and say "oops yes you're right it should be there" |Its OK we all mistakes sometimes and there is nothing wrong with owning up to it.
I am very disappointed Louis in the tone of your reply as it is very much an US v CORE reply and does not actually address the concerns/issues raised by various community members.
It may well be frustrating for you to have your code available at every stage for evaluation, warts and all, but that is the nature of open source software development. In fact it is a fundamental principle. and you must be open to feedback as a result of this.
Again, wrong ... my response does address the concerns/issues ... it just doesn't give you the answer you wanted. I am not frustrated at all with people looking at my code. In fact I am glad, and am one of the driving forces behind opening things up. I am quite open to feedback, I just disagree... and you seem to percieve that as me not listening. There is a difference between not listening and not agreeing.