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what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:19 pm

what will happen to the mamb* forge stuffs that are left there??
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Ambient » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:30 pm

Hard to say but one scenario is that Miro will ban everyone and make it a commercial site, pay in order to download basis...
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:58 pm

hello ambient,..

i dont think that will be feasible.

^^ who gives them a right to make a paid site if the stuffs left there are contributed for FREE by the community?

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:02 pm

^^ its a question actually.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Ambient » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:05 pm

You're right guilliam.
I should have been more accurate about my point.
They might as well delete everything and then make it a pay site for future addons...
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Dikud » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:07 pm

I think Miro cannot beat all world. And mamboforge content owners have completely rights to it. But today it will be happen all things... All I can see - Miro don't doing anything fast. We have some day(s) yet to make a mirror on our HHDs.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:40 pm

hello @Dikud, yes.. on the other thread this was also discussed and @ambieant stated that they have backups on their locals.. of course it will be better to keep a thousand back ups than keeping one alone.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by spacemonkey » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:44 pm

guilliam wrote: what will happen to the mamb* forge stuffs that are left there??
Give me 24 hours to make some phone calls, and I might have a solution for everyone :-)

In short, if you host your project at MamboForge you still own your project, and if you choose to move then Miro has to allow it.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:57 pm

^^ very comforting to hear!
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by shoffman11 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:59 pm

I can't even access mamb*forge right now, it says the connection timed out.  I'm going to take my files off there and just have links to where people can download my files off my own site (just in case Miro tries anything they shouldn't).

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by sc00zy » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:00 pm

I don't think anyone has to worrie about all the files hosted on Mamboforge. There are many sites like http://www.mambozip.com that host the files as well.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by CubaLibre » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:39 pm

Hiya!

The only thing to worry about is files/versions that are not released yet, so they can't be hosted anywhere else.

I was due to release the final version of Contacts XTD today, but don't think so at the moment. Fortunately, I have all the files on my local workstation aswell, so as soon as there is another solution available - preferably at opensourcematters.org ;) -  I'll move over.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by stingrey » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:42 pm

CubaLibre wrote: The only thing to worry about is files/versions that are not released yet, so they can't be hosted anywhere else.

I was due to release the final version of Contacts XTD today, but don't think so at the moment. Fortunately, I have all the files on my local workstation aswell, so as soon as there is another solution available - preferably at opensourcematters.org ;) -  I'll move over.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:50 pm

and same as others.. we cant access mamboforge now.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Predator » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:03 pm

guilliam wrote: and same as others.. we cant access mamboforge now.
It takes long but mamboforge is still within reach.

I have put all my files to my own site and have deleted the files on mamboforge, IMHO it is more secure for me ;) until further infos comes about the solution here.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:15 pm

@Predator, yeah retried again,.. and same also with other mambers that i've i.m.ed same oeration time out.

it might be bec of the entire community panic, in which a huge number is downloading and mirroring the entire site and its contents.

good idea on the contribution.. yes,.. thats exactly the topic of this thread.. what soon would come to other developers who contributed.. hence seeing the figures,.. its still a dot of the community who knew/informed about the incident.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by thethepapapa » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:35 pm

mamboforge.net/frs comes up pretty easy....

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Predator » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:45 pm

thethepapapa wrote: mamboforge.net/frs comes up pretty easy....

go figgure
Well i got a lot of timeouts before i can reach the forge, but i guess guilliam is right in saying that there is currently a run to what ever, download, cleaning ....
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:59 pm

hope this "operation time out" were currently experiencing will not lead to "total time out".. ahihihi.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Predator » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:03 pm

guilliam wrote: hope this "operation time out" were currently experiencing will not lead to "total time out".. ahihihi.
Only PL knows what happens in his mind, so nobody knows, but don`t think it will happen that soon.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:08 pm

OT:

PL reminds me of the lines of a song from "the corrs" titled "This boy is cracking up" goes:

------------

The girl's a fool, she broke the rule, she hurt him hard
This time he will break down
She's lost his trust and so she must know all is lost
The system has broke down
Romance has broke down

This boy is cracking up
This boy has broken down (yeah yeah hey)
This boy is cracking up
This boy has broke down

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hmmmmnnn....

just an o.t. guys. mind f*rt that is.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by CubaLibre » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:11 pm

Predator wrote:Well i got a lot of timeouts before i can reach the forge, but i guess guilliam is right in saying that there is currently a run to what ever, download, cleaning ....
$amboforge is reachable again however, it takes some time to login.
I already cleaned up the CVS two hours ago, and now the published files are gone aswell.
Of course not before doing some local backup ;)

I'll stay tuned as to hear of some new home for my orphaned component :)

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by shoffman11 » Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:44 am

I think we shouldn't just be closing our projects on Mamboforge.  Instead, we should remove the files, but upload text files and/or have links in the project description about where to download the files in the interim.  This way new (and regular) users can still find the files if they need them, but we have full control over our files.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guider » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:15 am

Mamb*Forge sucks anyways, as all opensource-collecting software sites do. Nice time to come up with an easy, user friendly layout.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by Aris Ntatsis » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:27 am

My opinion is that a new repository site is necessary.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by stingrey » Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:24 am

macman wrote: My opinion is that a new repository site is necessary.
Point 9.
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by thomas.dahl » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:29 pm

CubaLibre wrote: Hiya!

The only thing to worry about is files/versions that are not released yet, so they can't be hosted anywhere else.

I was due to release the final version of Contacts XTD today, but don't think so at the moment. Fortunately, I have all the files on my local workstation aswell, so as soon as there is another solution available - preferably at opensourcematters.org ;) -  I'll move over.

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I would like to have a look at this..  Is there aynwhere I can see a demo and get the final files ahead of the new download area?

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by ssmayer » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:54 pm

Actually, I find it a great relief to know there will be a new reposity site that's user friendly. I was getting a *little* frustrated with the old site.

Well, I am being polite...

This group is sure to create something new and marvelous as a file repository!
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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by guilliam » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:37 pm

@ssmayer, you are never alone.. same here. even advance and web guru's gets a little lost in the wonderland..

fervently hoping for an idiot user friendly(like me! ahihihihi)  layout in the future.

kudos.

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Re: what will happen to mamb*forge?

Post by CubaLibre » Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:40 pm

thomas.dahl wrote: I would like to have a look at this..  Is there aynwhere I can see a demo and get the final files ahead of the new download area?

Thanks!
Well, you can download them. This whole issue and my closing the project at mamboforge at least produced something good in the end. I finally managed to create a site for my component in one day, something I couldn't get through with for the last two month.

Go take a look at http://www.clockbit.com, I just released Version 1.0.0 at this very moment.

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