Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:43 am
Now there`s a guy doing his part... http://forum.mamboserver.com/search.php ... id=1160530
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Thread deleted?Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
We would also ask that people remain calm and not become overly emotional, we are a community and not a mob.
Rebranding is not necessarily a bad thing. People will follow the product and it's reputation. People don't follow Miro. They follow the product. Miro doesn't have a chance in hell of maintaining the product. Remember, the product, market share and prestigious awards now live on this server. It's a no-brainer. Just IMO.Forsh wrote: Wow, unity, that is a great suggestion.
Certainly the hardest thing to beat will be any marketing or advertising by Miro. They pretty much have a solid brand with a large following, and they didn't even have to build that--they got a free ride.
You can call it spam, you can call it artistic form of protest….but yeah it’s 210+ posts of spam if you don’t sugar coat it. Speaking of a new name for the project, it will be announced on these forums before anywhere else once it will become official. Please take your time to read more of my explanation listed below the personal replies to view my view on this spam.de: I am sorry, but something like this just annoyes me and makes me rather leave completly. It looks like spam, and it is spam. But do we want spam? I thought we don't. Else I would not want to support this.
We don't even have a new name (as far as I know), if I were a new user I would rather go for another CMS seeing such. Pointing them gently to the new forum ok, make it your signature etc. or something like this... but don't spam, this doesn't make it better. This doesn't make "us" better.
Thanks for considering.
Don't see how. A lot of the people that I have re-directed here either received help from me or other forum members, while they were waiting for a few days at mamboserver forums. I also seem to have revamped a few of old posts where users solved the issue, but haven’t posted their solution it, this will be helpful to those with similar issues in the future. I'd personally rather help the users here since I know my posts will be safe and considering the possibility that these forums will be used as the official support forums for the CMS in the future, it only makes sense to post helpful content here instead of it being posted on the resource that might soon vanish or will revoke the threads Miro chooses as offensive.1) It would be more effective as a news/information if we had something really new here... but honestly I find it even more difficult to help in this forum (not sure how the others helping out dealing with this though)
I didn't understand this portion, please elaborate.We are not Miro, and we do not remove posts just because theire opinion are different or change the rights of persons, and we don't ... well you know, what I don't want ;-)
Yes I assume, however you can search for *.* in content and "d3v" for user to find what is being reffered to.TheSaint: Thread deleted?
I seen that. Gave me a grinForsh: I think he`s inspired me to go only a little `cut and paste` rampage myself.
Yup. Take note of the timing as well. Isn’t it surprising that 4.5.3 was due to be released right about the time when the Mambo Foundation announcement was made.and they didn't even have to build that--they got a free ride.
Always glad to hear your opinion GRAM. I do agree that I probably came across a little bit too strong, but then I think it was justified and it got the effect that was in mind. Read more below for details.GRAM: If we come off semi-militant, we offend those who do not know us yet.
Your critique is always appreciated stingrey, as I have nothing but respect for the work that have done for the &ambo community. My reply to this is same message which I posted for GRAM above.stingrey: As I have stated here: http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... 312.0.html
That's the way I saw it as well idigital. I never claimed to be a major piece in &ambo community. I am simply an active supporter and I do most of the work at #mambo IRC channel, anyone who is a usual there can confirm there. I have not claimed in my "spam" that I'm an OSM coder or have any official representation, the only thing that I said is that I’m part of the community, which is basically anyone who has an account on these forums. I simply re-directed the users to a place where they can re-post their questions or informed them on why they are not getting the expected support.idigital: To say that such an action would reflect badly on the entire community is somewhat silly, imho.
Also, I'd like to let you know if you haven't met him in the unofficial #mambo channel, d3vlabs is quite like the most helpful and friendly voluntary technical support guy there and has been doing so for quite some time now.
And yes that avatar was nice indeed, there's a at least 6 other people who have it now like we discussed earlier.Anyway, that avatar he was using was quite nice wasn't it?
You have an interesting idea, however let's not forget the following.Some of you will know already what a G**gleb*mb is, other may be new to this, so I'll explain how it works.
Completely agree. I'm still pondering myself, what was their business model for continuing the development of the product which you have to assume they are interested in turning into profit. I mean can they be really that reckless? Or they actually have a new development team in mind which will quickly learn the &ambo core php code and produce regular updates with bleeding edge technology, convert 3dp components to &ambo native and provide support for hundreds of daily new threads at the forums. I'll put a here cause I couldn't find a sarcastic grin.alwarren: Miro doesn't have a chance in hell of maintaining the product
The statements above are bold facts and reflect the events that have been taken place over the last couple of weeks. They are indeed given a bit raw, but I always thought it’s better to tell it how it is. The post above came after I spent some time brainstorming in #mambo channel regarding what could be done to tell the users of the "old &ambo community about the ongoing movement under these ideas:Well since the entire $ambo core development team and pretty much every other member who has been affiliated with the mambo scene directly or indirectly, has migrated to http://www.opensourcematters.org for continuation of their development effort, without being under Miro's corporative umbrella, I advice that you make a post relating to your problem over there, where the true spirit of $ambo lives. As your have probably noticed these forums drastically reduced in post count, user count and what's more noticeable, reply count.
If you wish to understand the situation a little bit better, you can read the FAQ here: http://www.opensourcematters.org/ or if you didn’t have a chance to follow the community news over the last weeks, here's a good place to catch up: http://lonemamber.[URL banned].com
You always have an option of waiting here while Miro will keep banning those who put their lives into this project and hope that they (Miro) will find somewhere a dedicated team of coders and supporters who might answer your question in the future. The choice is yours, we as the community already made ours:
i actually was able to eventually find a hack for this, but i think (although i'm still a bit undecided) i am going to migrate to opensourcematters.org, so i think i don't want to bless this old community with a great tip...but i'll save it for opensourcematters.org
(and if you haven't migrated yet, you might want to look into it)
Appreciated! i'll be posting and reading at http://www.opensourcematters.org/ from here on.
Well, it looks like I should've been checking in here more regularly lately... after reading (most of) the thread about the Foundation, I'm off to http://www.opensourcematters.org
Thanks for the heads-up, dv3! Given my experience here and with the CMS formerly known as Mambo, I'll definitely be throwing my support behind the core dev team!
Thanks for the advice. I only heard about this the other day and I find it very worrying indeed. I'll have a look at opensourcematters.org and see how I get on.
I see i didnt knew that
Ok, thank you for your reply..i will follow your suggestion!
Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out.
I was a little surprised that there where zero responses. Whilst it was a situation of my own making my site had a hard crash disabling the database (and inconveniencing 700 registered users) so to me it was a MAJOR issue.
Of course there were some negative responses like in the threads below:no no i posted over there on your instigation, so thank you